Yes, the "another beast" of Revelation 13:11 is that same "beast" of Revelation 17:8, and the seventh beast of Rev.17:10, and the eighth beast of Rev.17:11. That "another beast" that comes up out of the earth is also who many scholars consider as the "false prophet" of Rev.16:13, even though the Scripture does not emphatically tell us that "another beast" is the same as the "false prophet."
You are terrible in expressing what you want to say. That obviously come from the fact you fail to rightly divide the scriptures.
Again, Revelation 19:20 says, “
the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him,” were cast into the lake of fire. (KJV) This description comes directly from Revelation 13 about the beast from the earth,
Revelation 13
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Revelation 13:14 tells us that the beast from the earth is the false prophet, and Revelation 17 tell us the beast that is cast into the lake of fire with him is the one that rises from the abyss,
Revelation 17
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings…
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
It says “these” make war with the lamb, which identifies the beast that rises from the abyss as the beast that is cast into the lake of fire with the false prophet.
You’re trying to deny the connection with the beasts in Revelation 13, with kings in Revelation 17. Let me use the ESV version, which is superior in making the connection,
Revelation 17
9 This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated;
10
they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. ESV
You admitted that the kings are “kingdoms” starting with Egypt, which is wrong, but it’s an admission of how the kings are to be interpreted. But then inconsistently try to interpret the last ones as individuals. Furthermore, if they start with Egypt you have to explain how the last individual WAS before the Roman Emperor Domitian, which you still haven’t done, taking into account Satan WAS before all the kings, which doesn’t help.
The point is that the superior translation of the passage proves the heads, mountains and kings are appositives, the renaming of the beasts in Revelation and Daniel. The beasts are renamed as heads, mountains and kings. Mountains are used to illustrate kingdoms in scripture. Daniel does this when he renames the beasts in Chapters 7 and 8. The bear in 7 is renamed the Ram in 8.
You are inconsistent. If the kings start as kingdoms they remain kingdoms for the purpose of proper interpretation. This is also affirmed in Chapter 13 where it says one of the heads is wounded,
Revelation 13
3 One of its
heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the
beast.
No doubt the heads are also beasts according to the verse above, and that one is wounded, which the Chapter goes not to state it is the beast that rises from the sea that is the head that is wounded,
Revelation 13
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12
And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
The “first beast” is the one that rises from the sea, and the passage tells it’s the “head” that is wounded. Revelation 17 gives us more information on the wounded head,
Revelation 17
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
The beast is the eighth WHAT? It is one of the heads that is wounded according to Revelation 13 verse 3 and verse 12! The beasts are symbolized as heads, mountains, and kingdoms according to all the texts presented. And the eighth one is also revealed as one of the five that are fallen, insomuch as each of the fallen WAS, AND IS NOT, from the perspective that John sees the sixth head/kingdom IS. The seven beasts, heads, mountains and kingdom are Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, the papacy, American and the image America makes, according to Daniel and Revelaiton.
Now again, HOW CAN JOHN’S PERSPECTIVE BE THE FIRST CENTURY?
How can the FUTURE whore Babylon be seated on the scarlet beast at the time of the ROMAN EMPEROR DOMITIAN?
How is it that the FUTURE antichrist WAS before the ROMAN EMPEROR DOMITIAN?
How can the FUTURE antichrist be SATAN, when he was before all of the kings, not just the ROMAN EMPEROR DOMITIAN?
How can Revelation 13 relate the healed antichrist given 42 months in contradiction to the evidence it is only given one hours when healed in Chapter 17?
When you can answer these questions with a rational explanation and without senseless ad hoc explanations you might convince me that FUTURISM is true, but until you do, I’m confident that Historicism can answer them with a ration explanation, which makes FUTURISM a false doctrine.
