Marine0311
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who said anything about worship?
Mary is the spiritual mother of all Christians!
If Jesus is king did he establish a kingdom?
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who said anything about worship?
Mary is the spiritual mother of all Christians!
If Jesus is king did he establish a kingdom?
a) Where in the Bible does it say that Mary is the spiritual mother of all Christians?
b) Jesus did establish His kingdom! Read your Bible!
BTW, Mary is no queen. She is dead.
Huge Difference Between:
PRAYING “FOR” saints, and PRAYING “TO” saints.
Huge Difference Between;
Heavenly saints “Collecting and Delivering” PRAYERS to God, and
Heavenly saints “Collecting, and then themselves PRAYING TO God to Answer the Prayers.”
Heavenly Saints, are Heavenly Servants of God;
(Paraphrasing...receive Gods mail, take it to Him.
* NOT receive Gods mail, read it, and then go ask God to answer His MAIL with YES God will do what the “mailman says”!
God does NOT answer EVERY PRAYER REQUEST!
And CERTAINLY not because a Heavenly Servant, makes decisions for God that GOD SHOULD answer EVERY MAIL REQUEST!
God is ALL KNOWING. HE knows what Prayer Requests He will and will not grant.
Cannonized saints yes"Saints" are the sanctified ones, i.e., all those in Christ. There is no special class of people among believers called "saints".
What saints?
Heavenly saints, whose station is to Serve God? Not men on earth.
Earthly saints, who are to PRAY FOR their brethren.
Brethren of Earthly saints, are other Earthly saints.
Earthly saints, to PRAY FOR Heavenly saints? (Why? Are they in jeopardy of losing their sainthood? Lol)
You should learn who is a saint and why and their role.
No one is directed to pray TO saints.
Do you pray to everyone in the communion of saints ? If RC’s didn’t proof text scripture they would have no doctrines or doctrines.
No Mary is not the spiritual mother of everyone. Where is your scriptural support to believe that nonsense. There is not one verse in scripture( in context) to support any of the RC traditions about Mary. You are following men not God.
we are supposed to follow men in the apostolic tradition Matt 28:19 lk 1:4 acts 1:8 acts 8:31
Spiritual Mother!
A marvelous thing!
A miraculous action!
A wonder!
An awe inspiring declaration!
Behold thy mother!
John 19:26-27
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith has he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
Jesus is not asking John to care for His mother, if so He would have said so, he is not even speaking to John, scripture says He is addressing the disciple, therefore it applies to all disciples.
Jesus is making Mary spiritual mother to all disciples! And all disciples take Her into thier home, And if the apostle John needs a spiritual mother so do we!
What is the family of God without a mother? The mother is the heart of the family! Jesus said I will not leave you orphans! Jn 14:18 He gave Mary to be the mother of one disciple then He does so for all disciples!
As eve was the mother of all the living in the first creation, gen 3:20 so Mary is the mother of all those who live in Christ and the new creation! Behold, I make all things new!
Rev 12:17 our spiritual mother!
Rachel is spiritual mother of Israel!
A type of Mary as spiritual mother of Christians!
The 12 sons of Jacob have 4 biological mothers, but Rachel is the spiritual mother of all Israel!
Matt 2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are no more.
I follow Jesus not men who change God’s word for profit, power, and control of others through un-scriptural traditions like the RCC does.
prayers are made to God thru their intercession and merits
we are called to be saints
we pray to God thru their intercession and merits
Provide a Scripture of anyone told To PRAY TO Saints.
For the unconverted, Intercession TO God is through Jesus...
For the converted, they do not require an Intercessory TO GOD.
Provide a Scripture whereby Intercession TO God is through anyone else.
Called to be, is not called to interfere, is not called an intercessory.
You have been taught to pray TO Saints...
what Scripture says to do that?
You have been taught to pray TO Mary...
What Scripture says to do that?
Why do you not VERIFY what you are taught by men, with Scripture?
Scripturally VERIFY God taught to pray though interceding saints.
Rev 12:17 our spiritual mother!