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Discussion in 'Bible Study Forum' started by Anthony D'Arienzo, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    John, Enough is enough. This thread is not supposed to be about a personal squabble between two individuals, so why not remove yourself from it altogether?
     
  2. Willie T

    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    And, there is also the fact that we all have had others (beginning in our formative years, with adults who we believed honestly DID know everything) very carefully "explaining" the meaning (often their denomination's meaning) of each of the parables. The Apostles had only themselves to rely upon if they didn't ask Jesus for more clarification.
     
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    John Caldwell Well-Known Member

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    The problem is today the "fishermen" want to talk more about fishing rather than actually fish.

    They look at the guys in the boat and say "that's a poor boat, they'll never catch good fish". Or they look at the nets and say "look at all those places that need mending". Sometimes they send a few people out to fish. But they typically stay safe on the shore.
     
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  4. John Caldwell

    John Caldwell Well-Known Member

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    You are right. It is difficult for me to ignore some things but I need to remember the persecution of Christ.

    Who am I that I should take offence that someone lies about me? I am no one. My objection is my pride.

    I'll ignore the accusation and leave it up to the staff. Just catch me if I start drifting back into the romper room (you or @Willie T shoot me a pm telling me not to be stupid).
     
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  5. lforrest

    lforrest Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    It is also troubling that someone is able to make accusations about someone's character that are not verifiable. I should bring it up with the other staff, and another rule may be needed. But rules only serve to conceal the animosity that Christians shouldn't be having in the first place. Whoever is lying should know that they are in danger of condemnation, count on it like you would a promise from God.

    Until then, the boards are run by the same software and here I know nothing is ever truly deleted. There is a history for everything, even edits. So it is verifiable if I know exactly where to look. So I wait for an exact location, then I'll figure out who to go to for verification.
     
  6. John Caldwell

    John Caldwell Well-Known Member

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    The whole issue is nonsense and has no part in the life of the believer (either @Anthony D'Arienzo 's accusation or my calling it out as false). It does not matter that I have offended Anthony (I have no doubt I’ve offended him, and no doubt I've insulted him in the past...probably more than once) and it does not matter that @Anthony D'Arienzo has offended me with his false accusations. I am not that important.

    Ephesians 4:30-32 Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.
     
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  7. bbyrd009

    bbyrd009 Groper

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    I remarked today that we spend more time on what we don’t want than what we want yup
     
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    Giuliano Well-Known Member

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    I see love in it. They loved their children. Even if they couldn't enter the Land of Promise, their children could . . . if they continued to follow the Pillar. Who among us would be willing to spend the rest of our lives like that? When Paul says that all Israel will be saved, I say, "Good." This is how the elect should act if they fall for a while.
     
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    Giuliano Well-Known Member

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    I ask myself I am smarter than the disciples. Although we have explanations given in the Bible, do we understand them even today? Perhaps the disciples were clever to know when they didn't understand them.
     
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    John Caldwell Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes I think we get so preoccupied with what Scripture does not plainly say that we ignore what it does.

    The Apostles (and the early church) were about living their faith. That, IMHO, is the biggest difference. Instead of arguing about the definition of foreknowledge, or what God was thinking, they were living and dying for their faith.
     
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    Giuliano Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Acting on the things we know for sure is the thing. Holding fast to the things we were given and know for sure. If we are faithful in such things, perhaps "bigger" things will become clearer.

    It reminds of the story about the dog with the bone when he saw his reflection in the water. Going after the imaginary bone, he dropped the one he had.
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    “I used to be afraid of failing at something that really mattered to me, but now I’m more afraid of succeeding at things that don’t matter.”
    (Bob Goff)
     
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    Anthony D'Arienzo Well-Known Member

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    Hello Forrest
    I started a thread called Apostolic uniqness
    Forrest
    You can verify much of what I have said about him by looking up a thread I started there on Apostolic Uniqueness...by post 41 he twisted it saying I did not believe in the work of the Spirit.
    In post 41 I list things he posted that I never said by he posted that I did. That post is not hidden.
    There are many more like it.
     
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  14. Anthony D'Arienzo

    Anthony D'Arienzo Well-Known Member

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    That does not settle anything.you are trying to avoid the post and thread that would shed.light on this.i will give forrest the name of it when I can see My page. You know what thread is in question.
    He who covers sin shall not prosper.you are covering your sin by attempting to portray me as the bad guy....
     
  15. Anthony D'Arienzo

    Anthony D'Arienzo Well-Known Member

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    They did not say I made a false accusation. Without having a screenshot of what you deleted they said it was not proven.
    It was the fox guarding the henhouse.
    You deleted two more posts during the inquiry,so stop saying it was.not deleted.when forced to,you offered an edited version.
    I will make some of this clear in a few more days.
    You have not repented, so we will proceed.
     
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    I think the most difficult part sometimes is not setting aside our presuppositions but identify them.

    There are things that I will take for granted because I have been taught it all my life, and this will influence how I see things (and define things).
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    I have had a hard time in the past 30 years, unlearning 12 years of awfully rigid Church of Christ indoctrination.
     
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