Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

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Grailhunter

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That is not true. I already showed you the evidence and you already avoided it. That is the pattern on this thread. You have nothing to counter the truth with.

Find the story of the cross in the Old Testament.
 

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The multiple Scriptures you have rejected on this thread nail that lie and expose your error. You have zero Scripture. You are fighting with God's Book. You have nothing. Dispensatanism is a lie from the devil.

You produce nothing to say what you are trying to insert into the scriptures.
 

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You produce nothing to say what you are trying to insert into the scriptures.
  1. The reader can see the biblical arguments I have presented on this thread that remain un-refuted.
  2. The reader can see your constant avoidance, your lack of Scripture and your rejection of the sacred text. Every page on this thread is full of you doing that. All you have is what you have been taught, which is erroneous.
 

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Apostate Israel did. Premils share the same faulty expectation today with their imaginary future millennial kingdom. True elect Israel in the OT looked to Christ. They embraced the Scriptures i presented and which you rejected. We are united to them by faith in Christ.

True Israel in the Old Testament looked to Christ....Anointed one....the Messiah. A human warlord king that would free them from their oppressors.
 

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True Israel in the Old Testament looked to Christ....Anointed one....the Messiah. A human warlord king that would free them from their oppressors.
Apostate Israel did. Premils share the same faulty expectation today with their imaginary future millennial kingdom. True elect Israel in the OT looked to Christ. They embraced the Scriptures i presented and which you rejected. We are united to them by faith in Christ.
 

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Ya someone was mistreated.
Does it mention the word Messiah?
Does it mention Yeshua's name?
Does it mention His death?
Does it mention His resurrection.
Isaiah 53
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

Acts 8
32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
 

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  1. The reader can see the biblical arguments I have presented on this thread that remain un-refuted.
  2. The reader can see your constant avoidance, your lack of Scripture and your rejection of the sacred text. Every page on this thread is full of you doing that. All you have is what you have been taught, which is erroneous.

Most reader know it is common knowledge that there was no salvation in the Old Testament.
You have not produced anything that suggests what you believe. A lot of scripture but nothing direct.
 

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Isaiah 53
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

Acts 8
32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

A lot of violence and misery and death in the Old Testament but still...
Ya someone was mistreated.
Does it mention the word Messiah?
Does it mention Yeshua's name?
Does it mention His death?
Does it mention His resurrection.
 

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A lot of violence and misery and death in the Old Testament but still...
Ya someone was mistreated.
Does it mention the word Messiah?
Does it mention Yeshua's name?
Does it mention His death?
Does it mention His resurrection.
What are you smoking? :laughing:

Is Jesus the Messiah?
 

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The Messiah in Jewish Belief
In Judaism, the Messiah (Hebrew: מָשִׁיחַ, Māšīaḥ, meaning “anointed one”) is a central figure in eschatology — the belief in the future redemption of the Jewish people and the world The concept originates in the Hebrew Bible, where kings and high priests were anointed with sacred oil, symbolizing divine appointment.

Core Jewish Beliefs About the Messiah​

Jewish tradition affirms at least five key attributes of the Messiah Jewish Virtual Library+1:
  1. Davidic Descent – He will be a descendant of King David.
  2. Sovereignty over Israel – He will rule the Land of Israel.
  3. Gathering of the Jews – He will bring Jews from the “four corners of the earth” back to Israel.
  4. Restoration of Torah – He will restore full observance of Jewish law.
  5. World Peace – He will bring peace to all nations, ending wars and oppression.

The Messianic Era​

The Messianic Age (Olam Ha’Ba) is envisioned as a time of universal peace, moral uplift, and spiritual fulfillment Some traditions describe it as a cosmic transformation, while others focus on a more practical restoration of justice and harmony. In this era, all nations will recognize the Messiah’s leadership, and humanity will live in a higher moral and spiritual state

Jewish Virtual Library.​

 

Grailhunter

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What are you smoking? :laughing:

Is Jesus the Messiah?

I did not pose that question.
Yeshua is the Messiah. No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century around the time of Shakespeare. Further more there are no J's in the scriptures. Yahweh, Yeshua, Yob, Yacob, Yericho.
 

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https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=fae0...aCtKZXdpc2grbGlicmFyeSZmb3JtPUNTQlJBTkQ&ntb=1
The Messiah in Jewish Belief
In Judaism, the Messiah (Hebrew: מָשִׁיחַ, Māšīaḥ, meaning “anointed one”) is a central figure in eschatology — the belief in the future redemption of the Jewish people and the world The concept originates in the Hebrew Bible, where kings and high priests were anointed with sacred oil, symbolizing divine appointment.

Core Jewish Beliefs About the Messiah​

Jewish tradition affirms at least five key attributes of the Messiah Jewish Virtual Library+1:
  1. Davidic Descent – He will be a descendant of King David.
  2. Sovereignty over Israel – He will rule the Land of Israel.
  3. Gathering of the Jews – He will bring Jews from the “four corners of the earth” back to Israel.
  4. Restoration of Torah – He will restore full observance of Jewish law.
  5. World Peace – He will bring peace to all nations, ending wars and oppression.

The Messianic Era​

The Messianic Age (Olam Ha’Ba) is envisioned as a time of universal peace, moral uplift, and spiritual fulfillment Some traditions describe it as a cosmic transformation, while others focus on a more practical restoration of justice and harmony. In this era, all nations will recognize the Messiah’s leadership, and humanity will live in a higher moral and spiritual state

Jewish Virtual Library.​

Acts 13
27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

So much for your "Jewish beliefs". :laughing:
 
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Acts 13
27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.

So much for your "Jewish beliefs". :laughing:

I did not say they got it right....talking about what is written and what they believed.
 

covenantee

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I did not pose that question.
Yeshua is the Messiah. No one knows where the word Jesus came from, it just appeared in the 17th century around the time of Shakespeare. Further more there are no J's in the scriptures. Yahweh, Yeshua, Yob, Yacob, Yericho.
Spare us the nonsense.

So the eunuch and Philip were reading from the wrong translation. :laughing:

Better exhume 'em and tell 'em.
 
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Grailhunter

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Then if you want to promulgate your "Jewish beliefs", go do it on a Jewish forum.

This is a Christian forum.

I do not have Jewish beliefs....LOL
Just the truths of the scriptures and the Old Testament is all about Jewish beliefs.
 

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Most reader know it is common knowledge that there was no salvation in the Old Testament.
You have not produced anything that suggests what you believe. A lot of scripture but nothing direct.
Not true. The Scriptures Covenantee and me presented that you rejected nail that lie. Your fight is with the inspired pages.