Bilderbugers, Etc.

[veteran]

Have any of you ever wondered why there's an apparent black-out in the news media about such topics as the Bilderburgers, Masons, Tri-lateralists, world Communism, etc.? My father was a hard-line Democrat, and if he didn't hear about a matter on the nightly TV news, he refused to believe it.

 

[aspen]

None of the groups are relevant, except for conspiracy-mind people who distrust the mainstream media anyway?

 

[brightmorningstar]

None of the groups are relevant

This is a good example of why they are blocked out, sadly there are services fro feemasons in some of our UK Cathedrals and I know enough people who are in fraternities to know its not irrelevant.
Seeing as a BBC program a few months ago revealed up to a third of all voluntary and charity work is carried out by the Christian church one must ask the question why we never hear any mention of church or Christian in the frequent charity reports in the media. Extraordinary bias.

 

[dragonfly]

Have any of you ever wondered why there's an apparent black-out in the news media about such topics as the Bilderburgers, Masons, Tri-lateralists, world Communism, etc.? My father was a hard-line Democrat, and if he didn't hear about a matter on the nightly TV news, he refused to believe it.

Recently, someone told me that a journalist's career would be forever altered if he or she made the mistake of mentioning certain things on air. That is part of your answer.

Below is an extract from an old (2008) thread called The Emerging Merger on sermonindex.net, started by a Christian on whom the Lord put a burden to understand the end times. Thus began the finding and keeping quotes. (I've left the scriptures where they were in the post, but highlighted them in blue.)http://www.sermonind...de=flat&order=0

This extract is the main substance of a single post on p11 of the thread, which looks at politicians' leanings.

The media receives thanks for its co-operation (highlighted).


' "We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." James Paul Warburg, son of Paul Warburg, who was active in the United World Federalists for a World Government, stated before the U.S. Senate, February 17, 1950.

David Rockefeller
(1915- ) Internationalist billionaire, CFR, founder of the Trilateralist Commission.
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller... Baden-Baden, Germany 1991

"This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
-David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 1994.

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." James Paul Warburg, son of Paul Warburg, who was active in the United World Federalists for a World Government, stated before the U.S. Senate, February 17, 1950.

"Humanity needs world order. The fully sovereign nation is incapable of dealing with the poisoning of the environment... The management of the planet...requires a world government." Norman Cousins (CRF), long-time president of the United World Federalists (not the World Federalist Association), on Earth Day, April 22, 70.

"By the end of this decade [by the year 2000] we will live under the first One World Government that has ever existed in the society of nations ... a government with the absolute authority to decide the basic issues of human survival. One world government is inevitable." Pope John Paul II as quoted by Malachi Martin, a Roman Catholic priest in his book, The Keys To This Blood.

"We are on the verge of global transformation. All we need is the right major crises and the nation will accept the New World Order." David Rockefeller.

From a Preliminary Draft of a World Constitution, 1950, authored by CFR globalists Robert M. Hutchins, Rexford G. Tugwell, and others. This world constitution, introduced in Congress by Senator Glen Taylor, declared that "iniquity and war inseparably spring from the competitive anarchy of the national states; that therefore the age of nations must end." It was also held that the nations must "surrender their arms" to the proposed "Federal Republic of the World."

"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs.

"The planning of UN can be traced to the 'secret steering committee' established by Secretary [of State Cordell] Hull in January 1943. All of the members of this secret committee, with the exception of Hull, a Tennessee politician, were members of the Council on Foreign Relations. They saw Hull regularly to plan, select, and guide the labors of the [State] Department's Advisory Committee. It was, in effect, the coordinating agency for all the State Department's postwar planning." Professors Laurence H. Shoup and William Minter, writing in their study of the CFR, "Imperial Brain Trust: The CFR and United States Foreign Policy." (Monthly Review Press, 1977).

"The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for "the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government." Harpers, July l958

"The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow." Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before the Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915

"The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world." M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)

"If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands." Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World (1931)

"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people." H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)

"The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an interlocking financial, political, and economic world force for the purpose of establishing a World Government. Today Internationalism is heralded from pulpit and platform as a 'League of Nations' or a 'Federated Union' to which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National Sovereignty. The World Government plan is being advocated under such alluring names as the 'New International Order,' 'The New World Order,' 'World Union Now,' 'World Commonwealth of Nations,' 'World Community,' etc. All the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be religious or political according to the taste or training of the individual." Excerpt from A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant Episcopal Church in General Convention (October 1940)

"In the first public declaration on the Jewish question since the outbreak of the war, Arthur Greenwood, member without portfolio in the British War Cabinet, assured the Jews of the United States that when victory was achieved an effort would be made to found a new world order based on the ideals of 'justice and peace.'" Excerpt from article entitled "New World Order Pledged to Jews," in The New York Times (October 1940)

"If totalitarianism wins this conflict, the world will be ruled by tyrants, and individuals will be slaves. If democracy wins, the nations of the earth will be united in a commonwealth of free peoples, and individuals, wherever found, will be the sovereign units of the new world order." The Declaration of the Federation of the World, produced by the Congress on World Federation, adopted by the Legislatures of North Carolina (1941), New Jersey (1942), Pennsylvania (1943), and possibly other states.

"New World Order Needed for Peace: State Sovereignty Must Go, Declares Notre Dame Professor"
Title of article in The Tablet (Brooklyn) (March 1942)

"Undersecretary of State Sumner Welles tonight called for the early creation of an international organization of anti-Axis nations to control the world during the period between the armistice at the end of the present war and the setting up of a new world order on a permanent basis." Text of article in The Philadelphia Inquirer (June 194

"The statement went on to say that the spiritual teachings of religion must become the foundation for the new world order and that national sovereignty must be subordinate to the higher moral law of God." American Institute of Judaism, excerpt from article in The New York Times (December 1942)

"There are some plain common-sense considerations applicable to all these attempts at world planning. They can be briefly stated: 1. To talk of blueprints for the future or building a world order is, if properly understood, suggestive, but it is also dangerous. Societies grow far more truly than they are built. A constitution for a new world order is never like a blueprint for a skyscraper." Norman Thomas, in his book What Is Our Destiny? (1944)

"He [John Foster Dulles] stated directly to me that he had every reason to believe that the Governor [Thomas E. Dewey of New York] accepts his point of view and that he is personally convinced that this is the policy that he would promote with great vigor if elected. So it is fair to say that on the first round the Sphinx of Albany has established himself as a prima facie champion of a strong and definite new world order." Excerpt from article by Ralph W. Page in The Philadelphia Bulletin (May 1944)

"Alchemy for a New World Order" Article by Stephen John Stedman in Foreign Affairs (May/June 1995)

"The United Nations, he told an audience at Harvard University, 'has not been able--nor can it be able--to shape a new world order which events so compellingly demand.' ... The new world order that will answer economic, military, and political problems, he said, 'urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful through the federal approach.'" Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, in an article entitled "Rockefeller Bids Free Lands Unite: Calls at Harvard for Drive to Build New World Order" -- The New York Times (February 1962)

"The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order." Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs (October 1967)

"He [President Nixon] spoke of the talks as a beginning, saying nothing more about the prospects for future contacts and merely reiterating the belief he brought to China that both nations share an interest in peace and building 'a new world order.'" Excerpt from an article in The New York Times (February 1972)

"If instant world government, Charter review, and a greatly strengthened International Court do not provide the answers, what hope for progress is there? The answer will not satisfy those who seek simple solutions to complex problems, but it comes down essentially to this: The hope for the foreseeable lies, not in building up a few ambitious central institutions of universal membership and general jurisdiction as was envisaged at the end of the last war, but rather in the much more decentralized, disorderly and pragmatic process of inventing or adapting institutions of limited jurisdiction and selected membership to deal with specific problems on a case-by-case basis ... In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault." Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs (April 1974)

"The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate, and the main uncertainty is whether mankind can exert a positive role in shaping a new world order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture. We believe a new order will be born no later than early in the next century and that the death throes of the old and the birth pangs of the new will be a testing time for the human species." Richard A. Falk, in an article entitled "Toward a New World Order: Modest Methods and Drastic Visions," in the book On the Creation of a Just World Order (1975)

"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order." Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)

"At the old Inter-American Office in the Commerce Building here in Roosevelt's time, as Assistant Secretary of State for Latin American Affairs under President Truman, as chief whip with Adlai Stevenson and Tom Finletter at the founding of the United Nations in San Francisco, Nelson Rockefeller was in the forefront of the struggle to establish not only an American system of political and economic security but a new world order." Part of article in The New York Times (November 1975)

"A New World Order" Title of article on commencement address at the University of Pennsylvania by Hubert H. Humphrey, printed in the Pennsylvania Gazette (June 1977)

"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order." Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 1988)

"We believe we are creating the beginning of a new world order coming out of the collapse of the U.S.-Soviet antagonisms." Brent Scowcroft (August 1990), quoted in The Washington Post (May 1991)

"We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for peace for the post-war period." Richard Gephardt, in The Wall Street Journal (September 1990)

"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long." President George Bush (January 1991)

"But it became clear as time went on that in Mr. Bush's mind the New World Order was founded on a convergence of goals and interests between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, so strong and permanent that they would work as a team through the U.N. Security Council." Excerpt from A. M. Rosenthal, in The New York Times (January 1991)

"I would support a Presidential candidate who pledged to take the following steps: ... At the end of the war in the Persian Gulf, press for a comprehensive Middle East settlement and for a 'new world order' based not on Pax Americana but on peace through law with a stronger U.N. and World Court." George McGovern, in The New York Times (February 199

"... it's Bush's baby, even if he shares its popularization with Gorbachev. Forget the Hitler 'new order' root; F.D.R. used the phrase earlier." William Safire, in The New York Times (February 1991)

"How I Learned to Love the New World Order" Article by Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. in The Wall Street Journal (April 1992)

"How to Achieve The New World Order" Title of book excerpt by Henry Kissinger, in Time magazine (March 1994)

"The Final Act of the Uruguay Round, marking the conclusion of the most ambitious trade negotiation of our century, will give birth - in Morocco - to the World Trade Organization, the third pillar of the New World Order, along with the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund." Part of full-page advertisement by the government of Morocco in The New York Times (April 1994)

"New World Order: The Rise of the Region-State" Title of article by Kenichi Ohmae, political reform leader in Japan, in The Wall Street Journal (August 1994)

"The new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all." Nelson Mandela, in The Philadelphia Inquirer (October 1994)

"The renewal of the nonproliferation treaty was described as important "for the welfare of the whole world and the new world order." President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, in The New York Times (April 1995)

In 1960, Rhodes Scholar Walt Whitman Rostow (CFR) declared that urgent imperatives "argue strongly for movement in the direction of federalized world organization under effective international law" and for "effective international control of military power." The real world problem , said Rostow, is "national sovereignty," and "it is therefore an American interest to see an end to nationhood as it has been historically defined." Rostow held a top spot in the Kennedy State Department.

"Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity.... Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed...." Jeremiah 51:6, 8.

"The overt and covert organs of the Vatican and British Empires are locked in mortal combat for control of the world." The Project, A-Albionic Research.

"The Rothschild-Rockefeller conflict is over who will be boss in the New World Order, not what the parameters of that Order will be. The New World Order cannot be realized until their relative positions in the hierarchy are decided. Conspiracy Digest, Summer 76, p. 8.

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future." U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups." Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, highly esteemed by his former student, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.

"The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship." Former Congressman John Rarick 1971
'In our dreams we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present educational conventions fade from our minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk.... The task we set before ourselves is a very beautiful one, to train these people as we find them to a perfectly ideal life just where they are. So we will organize our children into a little community and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way, in the home, in the shop, and on the farm....'" "The Project," Jan-Feb 85, p. 1, quoting from Dr. Emanuel Josephson's Rockefeller Internationalist.

"The State of the World Forum is the launching of a multi-year global initiative to focus on the fundamental challenges and opportunities confronting humanity as we enter the next phase of human development. It is being held in the belief that at this momentous juncture in history -- between the ending of the Cold War and the dawn of the new century -- we are experiencing the birth of the first global civilization." Gorbachev Conference Mission Statement (p. 3), September, 1995.

"Human interdependence must now become our watchword, as we move into the global civilization which lies ahead; interdependence with each other, interdependence with the Earth, interdependence with the Spirit which perennially guides the affairs of humankind." Gorbachev Foundation President Jim Garrison. September, 1995.

"What Boutros-Ghali proposes is closer than anyone on the planet should ever want to get to a transnational military force that could override and eventually abolish national sovereignty altogether and in the process set up the United Nations itself as the power apparatus of an unelected global elite." Samuel Francis, Human Events, August 22, 1992.

In 1961, the Kennedy State Department brought forth an official policy entitled Freedom From War: The United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World (Department of State Publication 7277). This dismal document proposed a plan of "progressive controlled disarmament" in which all national armaments, including those of the United States, would be transferred to the United Nations. This disarmament "would proceed to a point where no state would have the military power to challenge the progressively strengthened U.N. Peace Force."

"..The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move towards larger, more stable, more cooperative units." Zbigniew Brzezinski, speaking at the Gorbachev Conference, September, 1995.

"NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order." Henry Kissinger.

"We are not going to change Soviet power, of course, or abandon its fundamental principles, but we acknowledge the need for changes that will strengthen socialism." Gorbachev, from his book Perestroika.

"We are for a Lenin who is alive... In building our future, we are basing ourselves upon the gigantic intellectual and moral potential of the socialist idea linked with the theory of Marxism-Leninism... We see no rational grounds to give up the spiritual richness contained in Marxism.

"Through restructuring (perestroika), we want to give Socialism a second wind and unveil in all its plentitude the vast humanist potential of the socialist system.... Our Party was and remains the Party of Lenin.... We must seek these answers guided by the spirit of Lenin, the style of Lenin's thinking, and the method of dialectic cognition." Gorbachev, from a November 15, 1989 speech to Soviet students.

"When Gorbachev talked at the Forum about the 'synthesis' of Eastern and Western culture and ideology, he was following traditional Communist doctrine. He said that the ongoing conflict between the two contradictory systems -- capitalism and socialism (i.e., thesis and antithesis) -- will result in 'synthesis.' The 'synthesis' which the true Marxist believes will eventuate is world-wide Communism,, which will solve all man's problems and produce a new, changed man. In a private discussion during the conference, Gorbachev confirmed that he has not repudiated any of his Marxist beliefs or positions, as set forth in Perestrioka or his other writings or speeches." John Stormer, "Understanding the Times," a newsletter.

"Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost and perestroika and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep. We want to accomplish three things: One, we want the Americans to withdraw conventional forces from Europe. Two, we want them to withdraw nuclear forces from Europe. Three, we want the Americans to stop proceeding with the Strategic Defense Initiative." Michail Gorbachev, November 87 Statement to Politburo

On United Nations Day, October 24, 1975, the World Affairs Council unveiled "A Declaration of Interdependence," which in part states, "Two centuries ago our forefathers brought forth a new nation; now we must join with others to bring forth a new world order."

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

The..."New World Order" is also called "The Plan" and is being pushed by the world's most powerful socialists, marxists, internationalists, and occult and New Age leaders. They plan the following:

1. A world court

2. A world army

3. A world central bank and world currency

4. A world welfare state

5. Centralized economic planning

6. A global taxation system

7. Abolition of private firearms

8. Forced population control

9. Stringent environmental regulations

10. Centralized control of all education

11. Loss of freedom of speech and freedom of the press

12. Abolition of all religions except New Age worship - including Gaia or Mother Earth worship

13. Abolition of national identity and sovereignty, division of the world into ten political/economic governments.



"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in all history. Its purpose is to destroy the United States." John E. Rankin, U.S. Congressman.

"My vision of a New World Order foresees a United Nations with a revitalized peacekeeping function." George Bush, New York, 1991.

And another quote from former president Bush: "It is the sacred principles enshrined in the UN Charter to which we will henceforth pledge our allegiance." UN Building, February 1, 1992.

United Nations' World Constitution: "...The age of nations must end...The governments of the nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they surrender their arms."



The UN Security Council has fifteen members. Five of them, The United States, Britain, France, Russia and China, are permanent members.

"Since the UN was created in 1945, there have been twelve Undersecretaries for Political and Security Council Affairs. In every case, these men have been Communists; and in all but one case they have been Soviet Communists. They are:

1946-1949 Arkady Sobolev (USSR)

1949-1953 Konstantin Zinchenko (USSR)

1953-1954 Ilya Tchernychev (USSR)

1954-1957 Dragoslav Protitch (Yugoslavia)

1958-1960 Anatoly Dobrynin (USSR)

1960-1962 Georgy Arkadev (USSR)

1962-1963 E.D. Kiselev (USSR)

1963-1965 V.P. Suslov (USSR)

1965-1968 Alexei E. Nesterenko (USSR)

1968-1973 Leonid N. Kutakov (USSR)

1973-1978 Arkady N. Shevchenko (USSR)

1978-1981 Mikhail D. Sytenko—USSR

1981-1986 Viacheslav A. Ustinov—USSR

1987-1992 Uasiliy S. Safronchuk—USSR

1992- Vladimir Petrovsky—Russia , "former USSR



"Is there a number of mark planned for the hand or forehead in a new cashless society? Yes, and I have seen the machines that are now ready to put it into operation." Ralph Nader.

Alexis De Togueville upon visiting America in the early 19th century, this French historian observed: "America is great because America is good. If American ever ceases to be good it will cease to be great."

"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God remembered her iniquities." Revelation 18:4-5

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations '




My comments:

After the highlighted sentence, 'But, the world is now more sophisticated' - 'sophisticated' = corrupted in regard to truth

I am not suggesting that all Christians should 'believe' that The Plan will come to pass in the form that it is being designed - because God is over all things - but, we do need to be aware that The Plan is not being pushed forward by our observations of political engines only. The men (and women) who are active in working towards it, are calling on the powers of darkness to help them, and the powers of darkness do - if men and women are willing to make the necessary commitment to them - which of course, requires the suppression of the truth. (Romans 1)

aspen2 said:

None of the groups are relevant, except for conspiracy-mind people who distrust the mainstream media anyway

Brother, wake up. There are many voices in this world and none of them are without 'signification', (or, significance), as Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14:10 (KJV)

it's a long time since the media moved away from a purely news announcement mentality.

People who deceive, open themselves up to be deceived, because they have already made a tacit agreement with Satan by lying.

This is why Jesus Christ being THE TRUTH is cosmically important. As light destroys darkness, so truth makes the lie(s) manifest, and in that exposure - coming into wholehearted agreement with God Himself - is health for the soul, the spirit, the mind, the body. Yes, there is a spiritual pain to be felt in departing from the flesh, but, in the light of eternity, it will seem more than worthwhile to have assured oneself of God's favour.

 

[Strat]

Have any of you ever wondered why there's an apparent black-out in the news media about such topics as the Bilderburgers, Masons, Tri-lateralists, world Communism, etc.? My father was a hard-line Democrat, and if he didn't hear about a matter on the nightly TV news, he refused to believe it.

The practical atheist both in and out of the church are comfortable in the world and think it's doing just fine,friends among friends you could say....the non christian atheist would rather watch football,make money or engage in celebrity worship and various forms of hedonism while the christian practical atheist would rather loose themselves in modern christian pop culture with its celebrity preachers and teachers and christianized hallmark card communications full of flowery feel good nonsense....both groups are in for a rude awakening when the time is right and the power brokers make their move

 

[Watchwithme]

Have any of you ever wondered why there's an apparent black-out in the news media about such topics as the Bilderburgers, Masons, Tri-lateralists, world Communism, etc.? My father was a hard-line Democrat, and if he didn't hear about a matter on the nightly TV news, he refused to believe it.

For the simple reason that the same people OWN the media.

 

[veteran]

Dragonfly, I'm familar with many of the quotes you posted, but this one is of particular interest...

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

I don't believe extraterrestrials exist. But I do believe God's Word about the fallen angels which rebelled with Satan. And I wouldn't be surprised if the New World Order host of politicians were in direct communication with them.

 

[dragonfly]

Hi veteran,

I don't believe extraterrestrials exist. But I do believe God's Word about the fallen angels which rebelled with Satan. And I wouldn't be surprised if the New World Order host of politicians were in direct communication with them.

They are. Take a look at this, as well - the United Nations Prayer Room.
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_United_Nations_Prayer_Room_meditation

There's quite a lot on the internet about what the occult world believes - too much to imagine there is no truth in those suggestions. Of course, there are those who scoff because they are scoffers, not because they have any real insight. And there are those who scoff because they know it's true, and they want to challenge the deductive powers of intelligent people. It only takes about thirty years to alter an entire generation's thinking on certain points. The agenda to make weird things both acceptable and desirable has been going on for quite a while. It's a form of mass manipulaton.

I don't know how much time you have for watching videos, but the brother who created littleguyintheeye.blogspot.co.uk has made an interesting collection, which vaguely informs us of some of what is afoot. Some of it has been branded as science - which it is - but because it is being used with no accreditation to God, it is dangerous. The agenda to replace God with science in the popular understanding, has received so much funding, as has the entertainment industry. Not all the videos are by Christians, and some of the series are interrupted, but, they give us certain leads.

With regard to the acceptance of martial law, I understand from stopthenorthamericanunion.com, that President Bush made a significant alteration to the American Constitution during the last few months of his presidency. I don't know how much publicity it received, but as I understand it, it marks another reduction of power to the people, and may also affect the power of individual States to defend themselves. The general 'power' of the US military (Again, this is only as I understand it from a distance, without researching the detail), is already inadequate to defend the US as a whole, due to the UN's incursions on its original greatness. I've heard too, that there is a youth organisation being started (perhaps under Obama's administration) in which those who have a Christian faith are distinctly disadvantaged with regard to promotion, should they mention their faith, or need leave to pursue a Christian activity. In other words, becoming a Christian is going to bite very early on in these young people's lives.