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Discussion in 'Unorthodox Doctrine Forum' started by GerhardEbersoehn, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. Pearl

    Pearl Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I just don't understand the thinking behind his views so I'm opting out.
     
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    Ah, wadr don't think i will, no offense
     
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    Well, you can go that way if you like, but the hope of going up to heaven someday is still going to be a pretty poor perspective to try and partake in Christ from, I guess. Don't we all hear that like day 1? Go in there with the preconception even?

    Do you really still believe that a Capricious and Vengeful God needed a blood Sacrifice to make you acceptable to Him? Then fine, that's ok with me. Go and sing "When We All Get to Heaven" with my blessings, ok, God loves you just like you are
     
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    Yup - that's pretty much what I expected . . .
     
  5. GerhardEbersoehn

    GerhardEbersoehn Well-Known Member

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    Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour God, Jesus Christ your Lord and Saviour God

    HIS VICTORY HIS SALVATION HIS BLESSING, mine and yours
     
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    GerhardEbersoehn Well-Known Member

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    You don't know? You haven't READ? So WHAT have you read in ALL AND EVERY of my posts? Weird ideas from “vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers”[*], or Scripture? Holy, Scripture the Written Word of GOD!?

    [* Have you noticed this is from the Prophets, a prophetic quote Jesus, made capital of?]
     
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    GerhardEbersoehn Well-Known Member

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    Confession of Faith
    I believe in God, the Almighty, Father, Creator
    of heavens and earth,
    and in Jesus Christ his only-begotten Son, our Lord,
    conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary,
    who under Pontius Pilate suffered and was crucified,
    who descended into hell, died and was buried
    and on the third day according to the Scriptures rose
    from the dead,
    who ascended to heaven and sits on the right hand of
    the power of God,
    hence He shall come to judge the living and the dead,
    I believe in the Holy Spirit;
    I believe one Christian Church of the elect,
    the holy communion of believers,
    the forgiveness of sin, the everlasting life and the resurrection,
    in the glorified body of flesh.

    I believe the Scriptures, the true, only and closed canon
    of authority for and in the faith, doctrine and living.
    God speaks in the Scriptures
    through his Spirit in the Congregation
    of the Son in Whom we have life.

    The Election of God :
    The reconciliation and justification in Jesus Christ of those
    according to God’s Eternal Predestination and Purpose
    in Covenant of Grace elected and
    in the Baptism of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit
    sealed and attested in regeneration and sanctification
    of repentance and conversion, of redemption from sin, and
    of growth and perseverance in faith.

    The Lord’s Supper of bread, wine and the washing of feet,
    as through faith partaking of Jesus Christ, of his body and of his blood, his Salvation proclaiming and Return expecting.
    The Lord’s Day
    the Sabbath of the Lord thy God,
    for God concerning the Seventh Day thus spoke,
    and God on the Seventh Day from all his works rested
    according to the working of the exceeding greatness
    of his mighty power which He wrought in Christ
    when He raised Him from the dead
    and finished all his works He had made
    to reign, the King, for ever and ever.

    Sabbaths’ Feast of Christ Home Assemblies Reformed Protestant Faith

    To joy in the Fellowship of Christians persuaded by God of the sanctity of the Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD your God for to be the Lord Jesus’ Day of Worship-Rest.
    The urgency of Sabbaths’ celebration for the Christian Faith and Church, springs from the knowledge of the energy of God’s operation in the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Ephesians 1:17-23.

    The Sabbath, its engagement and enjoyment, are grounded in Divine Election and Predestination and realised in the “Gospel of God concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord”, whom God the Father “Declared the Son of God with Power according to the Spirit of Holiness by resurrection from the dead:— by Whom we have received Grace for the obedience of the Faith for His Name among all nations, among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ, to the end ye may be established and comforted by the mutual faith in the Gospel of His Son.” Romans 1:1...12.

    Therefore we remember and celebrate “The Lord’s Day”, Sabbaths’ Eating and Drinking of the Lord’s Feast, holding to the Head Nourishment being ministered, growing with the growth of God, proclaiming Jesus Christ Raised from the dead. (Col2:12-19)
    “Where two or three are gathered together
    in My Name, there I am in the midst of them.”
    We are not a ‘church’ – new, or, another!
    We do not take money or favours!
    We don’t have nor desire an ‘earthly tabernacle’ to worship!
    We do not want ‘growth’ in numbers!
    We do not ‘count the nation’ or record attendance!
    We do not baptise!
    We do not convert!
    We are few, and will stay few.
    We believe because God had given us faith first.
    We love because God first loved us.
    We love the Fellowship of Christ, and in Christ.
    We love the Name of God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
    We love the fear of God and His Word Proclaimed.
    We love the pure Gospel of God’s free Grace.
    We love the knowledge and increase in the knowledge of Christ.
    We are not ashamed of, nor let ourselves be judged with regard to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. (Ro1:16, Col2:16)
    Therefore we remember and celebrate “The Lord’s Day” Sabbaths’ Eating and Drinking of the Lord’s Feast, holding to the Head, Nourishment being ministered, growing with the growth of God, proclaiming Jesus Christ Raised from the dead. (Col2:12-19)
    “For this cause we do not cease to pray that ye might be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding.” (Col1:9)
    ‘Singing in our heart to the Lord’, we ‘sing with the spirit and with understanding’, ‘speaking to ourselves in Psalms’. (Col3:16, 1Cor14:15, Eph5:9,19)
    We abhor self-righteousness or ‘legalism’.
    We abhor self-satisfaction or complacency.
    We abhor boasting or distinction of men.


    Join in Sabbath’s Celebration and Fellowship through the study and proclamation of the Word...
    According to Scripture only
    For Christ only
    By grace only
    Through faith only
    To the glory of God only
    are we saved...
    as in OSAS … Once Saved Always Saved...
    as in TULIP saved…

    in T...Total Depravity
    on U...Unconditional Election
    by L...Limited Atonement
    through I...Irresistible Grace
    unto P...Perseverance of the saints.

    “O that I may know HIM, and, the POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION” ---THEN I cannot but be a believer of the Sabbath, “the day the Seventh Day Sabbath-of-the-LORD GOD”. O Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner!

    3, We lament and reject the (sectarian) disregard and denial of the historical Christian Church as The One Catholic Holy Communion of Believers and Body of Christ's Own of all times and all peoples.
     
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    BreadOfLife Well-Known Member

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    - WHO told you the New Testament was the Word of God?
    - WHO declared
    the NT Canon you follow?
    - Where does the Bible teach Sola Scriptura? Chapter and Verse, please.

    The Bible doesn't teach OSAS.
    ALL of the following verses speak to the possibility of saved, born-again Christians LOSING it all by their own doing (Matt. 5:13, Matt. 7:21, Rom. 11:22, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Peter 2:20-22, 2 Peter 3:17, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19).

    As for T.U.L.I.P. - why do you follow the teachings and doctrines of a man (John Calvin) and not Christ??
     
  9. GerhardEbersoehn

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    Man, do I rejoice over the fact my and our confession of the one Faith of Jesus Christ offends! Praise the Lord
     
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    Unfortunately for you - it offends GOD.
    You're offending the WRONG Person.

    Good luck with that . . .
     
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    Christiaan Gerhardus Ebersöhn

    Rather than by <the subtle spreading of false doctrine by the devil> [J. C. Ryle], true doctrine is prevented and dismissed as false by false preachers doing the work of the devil for him, RUINING SOULS by spreading false rumours about true doctrine.
     
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  12. GerhardEbersoehn

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    Yes.
    John 19:34 “blood and water” ≠ blood ≠ water ≠ ‘blood + water’ ≠ ‘water + blood’ but is a one of two substances two in one, of a single protrusion, dead, thing of no saving value EXCEPT ITS PROPHETIC FULFILMENT by Jesus with his life and sacrifice of his life and resurrection of his life.
    Why? because there was no life or soul in the “water-and-blood” protrusion and although God predestined it, the will and act of desperately lost man were the will and act of desperately lost man and mankind.
    The piercing was done by the predetermination of God, but the flowing was due to gravity, and the fluids due to death.
    That is not what desperately lost sinner puts all his trust in. And why would he but that God from eternity willed it to his own glory in the face of Jesus,
    even the while God had made Him to be sin and made Him into the likeness of sin, like that old snake brought to the curse of sin in the Seed’s dying the death of death on the tree. "The Seed of the woman shall crush thy head though thou shalt bruise His heel", the heel of The In Suffering Triumphant Servant of the LORD.
     
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    "Forgive me if I've got it all wrong but I don't really understand your answer."
    Ah, Pat...you are not alone there, lol! Mark keeps me on my toes, and yes, my brain can be rattled by some of his posts but...he does get me thinking allot.
     
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    For a high-up in the hierarchy full blown RC priest who boasts he has been <Exposing anti-Catholic lies online for 15 years . . .> IT'S NOT TOO BAD in fact!
     
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    This – your post May 4, 2018#151 BreadOfLife said: – is the full <evidence> that you, <making this heretically asinine claim - <Jesus not having had a glorified body from His conception .. in REDS> .. is YOUR <responsibility> and was your answer to my challenge to you that Q~You're lying on your bottom on the mat without a shred of SCRIPTURE for...
    [A] Jesus having bled.
    for...

    b Jesus not having had a glorified body from His conception.~QMay 4, 2018#142
     
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    I'm not a Catholic Priest.
    NOT sure where you got that . . .
     
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    Dude - PLEASE take an English writing course because I have absolutely NO idea what you are trying to say.
    Your sentence structure is as poor and fragmented as your theology . . .
     
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    Exactly; READ what it says: ".. as of .." "Christ, as of, a lamb". ".. as of .." is not <just as>. ".. as of .." etcetera is figurative speech; not literal. There is nothing further to explain. That statement is very clear and self-explanatory.
     
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    even better for you. But unless my memory left me in the lurch, aren't you that guy who is an <ordained> ...singelybops?
     
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    That's also alright, as long as my Passover BONE isn't fragmented.
     
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