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Rita

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Just so saddened by what has happened in Australia. I understand that nine have been killed.
My heart goes out to the Jewish communities and the people of Australia, especially in Bondi.
 
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This is live coverage of it...

 

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This hero disarmed one shooter!

 
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We must remember that if Israel will not repent of their fathers and their own sin of idolatrous worship and return to the Lord, then the respective prophecies in Leviticus and Deuteronomy of the troubles that the Israelite people will face up and until the end of the fourth age of their existence from the time of Isaac's birth. When the Israelites come to their senses and realise that they do not have the means to redeem themselves atrocities like what has happened at Bondi Beach will continue to increase until they seek God's terms of peace.

Shalom
 
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We must remember that if Israel will not repent of their fathers and their own sin of idolatrous worship and return to the Lord, then the respective prophecies in Leviticus and Deuteronomy of the troubles that the Israelite people will face up and until the end of the four age of their existence from the time of Isaac's birth. When the Israelites come to their senses and realise that they do not have the means to redeem themselves atrocities like what has happened at Bondi Beach will continue to increase until they seek God's terms of peace.

Shalom
Regardless of what you have conveyed it doesn’t mean we cannot have compassion for what has happened or disdain for those who would attack in this way.
 

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Regardless of what you have conveyed it doesn’t mean we cannot have compassion for what has happened or disdain for those who would attack in this way.
Rita, regardless of what you may think, unless we have understanding of the circumstances that embrace our Jewish Brothers, it is impossible for us to know how it is best for us to respond with compassion for them. We also should be showing compassion for our Islamic bothers who are also appalled and impacted by the event that unfolded. What we must be careful of is to not overstep the line of attempting to do the 'right' thing and unintentionally begin acting God Like.

Yes, we should be showing compassion, but how each of us will do that is really up to each of us. What my personal response has been I have not shown publicly on this forum. What I had posted was God's prophetic words which covers this time period as the visitations of the fathers' iniquities approaches the completion of the fourth age of the existence of the disbursed nation of Israel.
 

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Rita, regardless of what you may think, unless we have understanding of the circumstances that embrace our Jewish Brothers, it is impossible for us to know how it is best for us to respond with compassion for them. We also should be showing compassion for our Islamic bothers who are also appalled and impacted by the event that unfolded. What we must be careful of is to not overstep the line of attempting to do the 'right' thing and unintentionally begin acting God Like.

Yes, we should be showing compassion, but how each of us will do that is really up to each of us. What my personal response has been I have not shown publicly on this forum. What I had posted was God's prophetic words which covers this time period as the visitations of the fathers' iniquities approaches the completion of the fourth age of the existence of the disbursed nation of Israel.
Just for the record I do, and have had much compassion for all those suffering - especially in Palestine.
having compassion for those who grieve and experience lost should lead us to pray against all that is happening the world- which is something I constantly pray about.
 

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We must remember that if Israel will not repent of their fathers and their own sin of idolatrous worship and return to the Lord, then the respective prophecies in Leviticus and Deuteronomy of the troubles that the Israelite people will face up and until the end of the fourth age of their existence from the time of Isaac's birth. When the Israelites come to their senses and realise that they do not have the means to redeem themselves atrocities like what has happened at Bondi Beach will continue to increase until they seek God's terms of peace.

Shalom
Do you know everything about the hearts of all the people who were killed? Maybe some of them were Messianic believers. Do you know? Blanket statements like this: that is, all Jews deserve whatever they get because of their fathers, reflects incredible ignorance.
 
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Do you know everything about the hearts of all the people who were killed? Maybe some of them were Messianic believers. Do you know? Blanket statements like this: that is, all Jews deserve whatever they get because of their fathers, reflects incredible ignorance.

It seems that you have not read the scriptures because the picture I painted with my few words can be found in the scriptures if people will spend the time reading their scriptures.

We must remember that God's words to Israel were given in a blanket style. As to where their heart is, that is not me to determine.

As to your understanding of what I had posted is not reflected in your paraphrasing of what I had written.
 

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We must remember that if Israel will not repent of their fathers and their own sin of idolatrous worship and return to the Lord, then the respective prophecies in Leviticus and Deuteronomy of the troubles that the Israelite people will face up and until the end of the fourth age of their existence from the time of Isaac's birth. When the Israelites come to their senses and realise that they do not have the means to redeem themselves atrocities like what has happened at Bondi Beach will continue to increase until they seek God's terms of peace.

Shalom
Guess where Jesus will return.
 

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The Muslim mayor of London attempted to stop the vigil.

But it went ahead - so why not focus on the fact that it wasn’t stopped.
Also the Hero in Bondi was a Muslim, he risk his own life to prevent more Jewish lives from being lost - perhaps focus on that as well.
 
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Guess where Jesus will return.

At this time, knowing where Jesus will return too, is the least important piece of the jigsaw with respect to how I live my life.
 

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There was a second man (purple shirt) wrestling with one of the gunmen. Later blurred bodies are shown on this video...I wonder if the second hero didn't survive?

An Islamic flag was on the window of the gunman's car.

 

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At this time, knowing where Jesus will return too, is the least important piece of the jigsaw with respect to how I live my life.
Jesus will return to Israel, the Land of the Bible, where He departed. He will PUNISH all who speak against Israel. I think that's pretty important.

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
 

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Jesus will return to Israel, the Land of the Bible, where He departed. He will PUNISH all who speak against Israel. I think that's pretty important.

Zechariah 14:12
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

So, it is important for you, but, at this point in time, it is completely irrelevant for me as this verse will have no impact on me during my lifetime.

You have quoted a verse but how relevant is it even for you during your lifetime.

There are other things that we should be focused upon, like considering Isaiah 58.

Goodbye Jack
 

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So, it is important for you, but, at this point in time, it is completely irrelevant for me as this verse will have no impact on me during my lifetime.
You have quoted a verse but how relevant is it even for you during your lifetime.
There are other things that we should be focused upon, like considering Isaiah 58.

Goodbye Jack

Isaiah 58:-

Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet,
and shew My People their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
Yet they seek Me daily, and delight to know My ways,
.. as a nation that did righteousness,
.... and forsook not the ordinance of their God:
...... they ask of me the ordinances of justice;
........ they take delight in approaching to God.
Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not?
wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge?

Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.
Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness:
.. ye shall not fast as ye do this day,
.... to make your voice to be heard on high.
...... Is it such a fast that I have chosen?
........ a day for a man to afflict his soul?
.......... is it to bow down his head as a bulrush,
............ and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him?
.............. wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?

Is not this the fast that I have chosen?
to loose the bands of wickedness,
to undo the heavy burdens,
and to let the oppressed go free,
and that ye break every yoke?
Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry,
and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house?
when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him;
and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

Then shall thy light break forth as the morning,
and thine health shall spring forth speedily:
and thy righteousness shall go before thee;
the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer;
thou shalt cry, and He shall say, "Here I am."

If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke,
the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry,
and satisfy the afflicted soul;
then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:
And the LORD shall guide thee continually,
and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones:
and thou shalt be like a watered garden,
and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places:
thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations;
and thou shalt be called, 'The repairer of the breach', 'The restorer of paths to dwell in'.
If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day;
and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour Him,
not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD;
and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth,
and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father:
for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.'

Thank you, @Jay Ross
 
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