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Rita

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There was a second man (purple shirt) wrestling with one of the gunmen. Later blurred bodies are shown on this video...I wonder if the second hero didn't survive?

An Islamic flag was on the window of the gunman's car.

There is video circulating on FB that shows a man and women who tried to tackle the gunmen but were shot and killed by them, think this may be the man.
 
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We must remember that if Israel will not repent of their fathers and their own sin of idolatrous worship and return to the Lord, then the respective prophecies in Leviticus and Deuteronomy of the troubles that the Israelite people will face up and until the end of the fourth age of their existence from the time of Isaac's birth. When the Israelites come to their senses and realise that they do not have the means to redeem themselves atrocities like what has happened at Bondi Beach will continue to increase until they seek God's terms of peace.

Shalom
Maybe God can repent for blinding them?

But if repentance is the key, then the entire planet is in trouble.

Oh wait it is!!!

But the Jews are blinded for a season.
So, the weight of blame is most always the shooter, not who deserved to die.

Self defense excluded..
 

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Australia has the same problem that the UK has.....
Too much coastline to be able to stop the influx of guns in a world where they are prolific because too many manufacturers are selling them in every condition possible from brand new to slightly used (dropped once) or heavily used.

Instead of trying to ban guns....ought to figure out how to live with them. Because there is no, not figuring it out.
 

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Australia has the same problem that the UK has.....
Too much coastline to be able to stop the influx of guns in a world where they are prolific because too many manufacturers are selling them in every condition possible from brand new to slightly used (dropped once) or heavily used.

Instead of trying to ban guns....ought to figure out how to live with them. Because there is no, not figuring it out.
Seriously, so you figure the people in the US have learned to live with guns - how many mass shootings and killings do you have over there !?
When was the last mass shooting in Australia !?
 
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'Greater love hath no man than this,
that a man lay down his life for his friends.'

(Joh 15:13)

'But God commendeth His love toward us,
in that, while we were yet sinners,
Christ died for us.'

(Rom 5:8)

Hi there, @Rita,

What matters is that one human being risked his life to save the lives of other human beings. Regardless of race or religion. Don't you agree?

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Seriously, so you figure the people in the US have learned to live with guns - how many mass shootings and killings do you have over there !?
When was the last mass shooting in Australia !?
I'm in the USA....

And if you remove the huge Democrat controlled cities(where guns are also illegal) from the statistics the statistics surrounding shootings drops drastically....to the point the USA is almost dead last in rankings.

We know how to work with firearms, handle them, store them and etc. It's in the Democrat areas there are no gun safety courses, and guns are seen as some sort of superweapon that can empower people to Superman status. (Kinda nuts IMHO)

Guns are just a tool....a VERY simple tool.
These things (and much worse) can be made easily by just about anyone without any doubt of accuracy and efficacy. That includes ammunition.

But, when there's nothing magic or special about guns there's no fear or desire to use one in a harmful manner. Disagreements can be made and resolved without going to insane levels. Well....maybe insane is a poor word choice here....let's say "lethal" or maybe "violent".

Guns (including fully automatic) are available easily no matter where you live. No different than a microwave oven.

As always it's the people and their attitudes that make all the difference in the world.
 

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But, when there's nothing magic or special about guns there's no fear or desire to use one in a harmful manner. Disagreements can be made and resolved without going to insane levels. Well....maybe insane is a poor word choice here....let's say "lethal" or maybe "violent".
If that is the case then you would have very little crime with guns, we see many disagreements within documentaries coming out of the US that show many use guns when there are disputes.
Guns do not solve the problem.
Anyhow in this incident in Bondi, it was a terrorist attack, not a sudden reaction to something. Terrorists will find a means and way regardless of where they are and the limitations within the country.
 

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Perhaps we should understand why God gave this prophecy: -

Jeremaih 51:11-14: -

11 Make the arrows bright!​
Gather the shields!​
The Lord has raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes.​
For His plan is against Babylon to destroy it,[1]
Because it is the vengeance of the Lord,​
The vengeance for His temple.​
12 Set up the standard on the walls of Babylon;​
Make the guard strong,​
Set up the watchmen,​
Prepare the ambushes.​
For the Lord has both devised and done​
What He spoke against the inhabitants of Babylon.​
13 O you who dwell by many waters,​
Abundant in treasures,​
Your end has come,​
The measure of your covetousness. [2]
14 The Lord of hosts has sworn by Himself:​
"Surely, I will fill you with men, as with locusts/who devour much,
And they shall lift up a shout against you."​

Even climate change gets a mention by Jeremiah in this passage because God is in control of the weather.

15 He has made the earth by His power;​
He has established the world by His wisdom,​
And stretched out the heaven by His understanding.​
16 When He utters His voice —​
There is a multitude of waters in the heavens:​
"He causes the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth;
He makes lightnings for the rain;
He brings the wind out of His treasuries.[3]"​


I wonder if 2 Chronicles 7:12ff provides us with a solution to our unfolding problems.

Just a thought. I wonder if we Christians will be able to humble ourselves and repent of our collective sins.


[1] This sentence is probably talking about the Islamic fighting force known as Isis, which have come out of the area of Persia which today is known as Iran.

[2] It is my opinion that God is speaking of the member nations of the Coalition of the willing, lead by the USA President who invaded Iraq/the Land of Babylon to heal the land in their own strength instead of destroying it in 2003 AD.

[3] It is my view that Jeremaih is speaking of the issues associated with climate change.
 

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The problem we are having with our federal Government is that they are using the introduction of stronger gun controls without addressing the real causes that we as a nation are facing.

There are a number of people in NSW who have over 400 guns each in their gun safes.

The real problem is the number of "Islamic refugees" we have allowed to enter our country who have no respect for our secular laws or our religious faith(s).

Sadly, the horse has bolted because nobody thought to close the gate to stop it.
 
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If that is the case then you would have very little crime with guns, we see many disagreements within documentaries coming out of the US that show many use guns when there are disputes.
Guns do not solve the problem.
Anyhow in this incident in Bondi, it was a terrorist attack, not a sudden reaction to something. Terrorists will find a means and way regardless of where they are and the limitations within the country.
More people carry guns in the USA. Many, many crimes have been stopped by a citizen carrying a weapon, rarely in the news. Remember news in the Western world try to create fear in you. Fear of the Gov't, fear of guns. My favorite was covid that panicked the world when it shouldn't have, but the news had to report all the dying, and didn't tell you that more people died of heart disease and cancer than all of covid deaths, the virus that did not exist and shots that killed people, and masks ed that were useless against it.. All the news media try to do is create fear.

Now, Mass shootings only occur in places they post a NO GUN Zone sign. One citizen with a gun stops it.
 
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If that is the case then you would have very little crime with guns, we see many disagreements within documentaries coming out of the US that show many use guns when there are disputes.
Guns do not solve the problem.
Anyhow in this incident in Bondi, it was a terrorist attack, not a sudden reaction to something. Terrorists will find a means and way regardless of where they are and the limitations within the country.
The lion's share of gun violence is in Democrat Party cities.

When those anomalies are removed there is less gun violence than in most countries per capita that don't allow guns owned by civilians.

Meaning....we really don't have a lot of gun violence even though we all have guns.

Most Democrat Cities do not allow guns inside city limits but they have more gun violence per capita than anywhere else.
 
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So, it is important for you, but, at this point in time, it is completely irrelevant for me as this verse will have no impact on me during my lifetime.

You have quoted a verse but how relevant is it even for you during your lifetime.

There are other things that we should be focused upon, like considering Isaiah 58.

Goodbye Jack
Whoever speaks against Israel, the Land of the Bible is in danger of being in Hell Fire tomorrow. And forever.
 

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Whoever speaks against Israel, the Land of the Bible is in danger of being in Hell Fire tomorrow. And forever.

What point are you trying to justify.

God promised that his descendants would be scattered to the four compass points of the earth.

Genesis 28:13-15: - 13 And behold, the Lord stood above it and said: "I am the Lord God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the earth on which you lie I will give this entity to your descendants. 14 Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth; you shall spread abroad to the west and the east, to the north and the south; and in you and in your seed all the families inhabiting my fertile soil shall be blessed. 15 Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go and will bring you back to my fertile soil; for I will not leave you until I have done what I have spoken to you."
 

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What point are you trying to justify.
Simple. Israel's enemies are heading for Hell Fire.
God promised that his descendants would be scattered to the four compass points of the earth.

Genesis 28:13-15: - 13 And behold, the Lord stood above it and said: "I am the Lord God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the earth on which you lie I will give this entity to your descendants. 14 Also your descendants shall be as the dust of the earth; you shall spread abroad to the west and the east, to the north and the south; and in you and in your seed all the families inhabiting my fertile soil shall be blessed. 15 Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go and will bring you back to my fertile soil; for I will not leave you until I have done what I have spoken to you."
 

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Simple. Israel's enemies are heading for Hell Fire.

Gloating over Israel's enemies' future destiny is unbecoming of a Christian Saint.

We should be praying for the salvation of Israel and Her enemies.
 
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