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I suppose it would matter if we were under Old Testament law. But we are not…….
 

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I suppose it would matter if we were under Old Testament law. But we are not…….

you are special and dont have to obey you can sun and offend God all you like!

in that case I’ll take a harem and case of Napoleon brandy to go!
 

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God put the law in our heart. I don’t need a list of rules to try to follow. I would rather be judged in grace than being judged by law keeping.
 

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Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

Sacramental life: Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Initiation into the new covenant must be ministered to you by the apostles!


There CANNOT be both!

Either Apostolic tradition in hierarchical authority which establishes truth, peace and order!

Or

Spiritual anarchy producing chaos and disorder!



Acts 16:17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

Men show is the way of salvation?

Thankyou God. Nice of you to drop by and put us all right.
 

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how do you know that’s the second commandment?

the context or content of vs 2-6 is the same and therefore the first commandment

Verse 7 would be the second?
Then why, after removing the 2nd commandment, b did the Catholic Church divide the 10th? By your reasoning, the coveting of the neighbors wife and the coveting of the neighbors goods are also similar in context and content are they not? So the Catholic Church, according to your own reasoning and logic, is contradictory at best, scheming and deceitful at worst. They remove a Commandment because of similar context, and divide another for the same reason. Your arguments and persistence in this are an indication of rebelliousness against God, they do not sustain a superior position to those here who understand the truth.
 
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Then why, after removing the 2nd commandment, b did the Catholic Church divide the 10th? By your reasoning, the coveting of the neighbors wife and the coveting of the neighbors goods are also similar in context and content are they not? So the Catholic Church, according to your own reasoning and logic, is contradictory at best, scheming and deceitful at worst. They remove a Commandment because of similar context, and divide another for the same reason. Your arguments and persistence in this are an indication of rebelliousness against God, they do not sustain a superior position to those here who understand the truth.

they are both coveting but different content
 

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you said it’s not possible to keep the commandments! Why not?

rev 12:17
Did I? I couldn’t find those words I said. But I will now. The law is impossible to keep. There are six hundred ish laws. Good luck , you not I or anyone can keep the law. It was shown to us so we know we cannot keep it and we need Jesus.
 

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Did I? I couldn’t find those words I said. But I will now. The law is impossible to keep. There are six hundred ish laws. Good luck , you not I or anyone can keep the law. It was shown to us so we know we cannot keep it and we need Jesus.

we are only talking about the Ten Commandments not Jewish anything or Noahic or anything else

Deut 6:5 is good as well as the commandments of Jesus Christ!

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep mycommandments.
 

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Weren’t those Ten Commandments just a prelude to the whole law? Are we under the Ten Commandments or Jesus commandments?