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Praying wouldn't help, if I would do the same thing tomorrow. I don't have to worry about a repeat seeing as he died a few years ago, but it still bothers me, so I'm confessing to all of you that I lied, not what about...

Maybe now God can heal my back. No willful sin is important, but I'm mad he put me in that predicament.

Praying will help.
Confess to God.
He forgives.

1 John 1:9:
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
 
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Praying will help.
Confess to God.
He forgives.

1 John 1:9:
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Many people use 1 John 1:9 as a "get out of hell free card," when in reality it is the same one-time repentance as we do to become a born again Christian, just like Acts 2:38 "Repent...and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit". Once cleansed of all unrighteousness, we literally can't sin 1 John 3:9, without experiencing a lot of grief, like I have over this one lie. This grief has to do with disappointing God, not about lying to that man, as if he was asking for justifiable reasons. No, it was mean, and that's on him. But I knew it was a lie when I answered him the same thing all four times!
 

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Many people use 1 John 1:9 as a "get out of hell free card," when in reality it is the same one-time repentance as we do to become a born again Christian, just like Acts 2:38 "Repent...and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit". Once cleansed of all unrighteousness, we literally can't sin 1 John 3:9, without experiencing a lot of grief, like I have over this one lie. This grief has to do with disappointing God, not about lying to that man, as if he was asking for justifiable reasons. No, it was mean, and that's on him. But I knew it was a lie when I answered him the same thing all four times!

I personally disagree with that theological perspective that we are free of sin. I believe we are never free of sin. John 3 never says being born again frees you from sinning. You have no other option but to confess to God

1 John 1:8
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us
 
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That's a "none of your business" question if ever I've seen one.
That's a "None of your DAMN business" question. To be followed by "Bugger off, mate", or stronger.

If you're going to sin, make it for swearing instead of lying.

 
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This grief has to do with disappointing God, not about lying to that man, as if he was asking for justifiable reasons.
I don't think you can say God was "disappointed in you", as if He didn't know what was in your heart. God already knew all about your pride and loved you anyway.

But I knew it was a lie when I answered him the same thing all four times!
Make sure you don't compound the sin by lying to yourself about who you are and what you're still capable of.
 
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I personally disagree with that theological perspective that we are free of sin. I believe we are never free of sin. John 3 never says being born again frees you from sinning. You have no other option but to confess to God

1 John 1:8
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us
I respectfully disagree too, but with you. LOL

That is another verse over-used, and mistakenly interpreted. It became that way 500 years ago by the Reformationists, Luther and Calvin. I prefer all the verses pertaining to the true meaning of why Jesus came and died for us. It was to free us from sin. The Reformationists say it was so we would not have to die for our past, present and future sins. That Jesus came to free us from punishment. Peter says our past sins 2 Peter 1:9, so show me where grace is a license to sin? Show me scripturally the phrase, "past, present and future sins."
 

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The OId Testament commandment is about bearing false witness. Upon the witness of others a person could be executed.
On the other hand lying to trick someone was normal in the Middle East, and still is. It was/is thought trickery was a sign of wisdom.
That is why we should not attempt to negotiate with the Muslims. If we believe them, they think we are stupid.

Then again lying and deceiving is a sin in Christianity. Inappropriate questions from others....Sometimes not answering the question.....answers the question. As long as the intent is not to deceive it is alright not to tell the truth. Secret birthday parties and presents.

When it comes to not telling the truth.....intent is everything.
This is exactly why my conscience is still screaming at me! And now it seems to me that I waited until he was dead to tell on myself to all of you.
 

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This is exactly why my conscience is still screaming at me! And now it seems to me that I waited until he was dead to tell on myself to all of you.

I assume there is a story behind this?
Either way, we all make mistakes and wish we could take it back.
The fact that it bothers you so much, tell something of your character.
 

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I respectfully disagree too, but with you. LOL

That is another verse over-used, and mistakenly interpreted. It became that way 500 years ago by the Reformationists, Luther and Calvin. I prefer all the verses pertaining to the true meaning of why Jesus came and died for us. It was to free us from sin. The Reformationists say it was so we would not have to die for our past, present and future sins. That Jesus came to free us from punishment. Peter says our past sins 2 Peter 1:9, so show me where grace is a license to sin? Show me scripturally the phrase, "past, present and future sins."

I never said anyone had a license to sin and I'm not here to debate doctrines.
If you don't want to take my advice and ask God for forgiveness then it's up to you to figure out how to clear you conscious. I tried to help, that's all I can do. Just remember, you will be judged on your deeds, the bible is clear about that. If you want to remain stubborn and not repent then good luck to you.

God bless
 
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I never said anyone had a license to sin and I'm not here to debate doctrines.
If you don't want to take my advice and ask God for forgiveness then it's up to you to figure out how to clear you conscious. I tried to help, that's all I can do. Just remember, you will be judged on your deeds, the bible is clear about that. If you want to remain stubborn and not repent then good luck to you.

God bless
I didn't mean to disrespect you. I have asked forgiveness, but I also know what is written in Hebrews 10:26-31. On the other hand, he did put me in a bad position of me having to lie to keep it my business and not his.

Thank you. You know, just this minute, I actually feel forgiven when what I wrote at the end in bold came to my mind, I believe from God. Because with it came peace. Has that ever happened to you as you type. It is like the Spirit of Truth types through my hands.
 
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