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If you cannot understand the natural body how will you ever understand the spiritual body?
Insight
The Spiritual has no body. God is Spirit and the only Body He ever Had was Christ the Lord. Now The Body of Christ should be you.
There is such a thing as a spiritual body and Jesus is the first one to have one and we too will have one like His.
Not yet there isn't because that has to do with the resurrection from the dead. That is the dwelling Place that Christ went to build for the saints. Here is the scripture.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.
43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.
44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.
47 The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven.
2 In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
Gentleman, Insight asked, "Was Eve born of a sinner?"
1 Corinthians 15:42 "So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption."
How is it possible that even though we have sown our bodies to corruption we are able to be raised incorruptible?
1 Corinthians 15:43 "It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power."
How is it possible that even though we have sown our bodies to dishonor we are able to be raised to honor? How is possible that though we have in the past sown our bodies in weakness we can let them be raised to power now and have strength for all things now?
If we always see these things only as literal death and resurrection we miss the most important aspect of what Paul is telling us.
Just as being born again is a spiritual rebirth, so also the most important thing we need to see about our resurrection is also spiritual.
We need not worry about the physical for if we focus on the spiritual God will take care of the physical and we will know how to ceremonially cleanse and make holy the physical for use in His temple now.
This sowing of the natural body did not start with us.......it started with Adam and we inherited that same natural body….. the verse says sown IN corruption. It did not say it was sown to corruption. The word "in" is also mentioned in verse 43 as well.
The resurrection is not a spiritual resurrection......it will be a physical resurrection. What kind of death did the righteous people of God died? Was it spiritual or a physical? People will literally see saints and prophets of God that have died, ascend into the sky along with Christians who were alive at Jesus' return.
You are partly correct. Just enough to confuse yourself. But for something to be "in" it must first be sown to. Adam sowed his body "to" corruption when he sinned. Then his offspring were sown "in" his corruption. Not "in" their own corruption but his, and that explains why we see that the hundreds of scriptures that show we can emulate that process.
Do you see the problem? You can interpret the phrase "sown in corruption" as meaning either that the body was "sown in [its] corruption" or that the body was "sown in [Adam's] corruption". And at 1 Corinthians 15: 42, 43 the focus is Adam so it means "in" Adam's corruption he sowed our bodies as contrasted to in the last Adam's body it is by his life giving spirit "raised in incorruption".
And you can interpret the phrase "sown in corruption" to mean that the body is corrupt or only that the sowing of the body was done under corrupted conditions. That it was sown under corrupted conditions is what the overwhelming bulk of the scriptures support if one gets the clogs out of their spiritual pipes so they can see it. The many are confusing it to mean the body sown to be "in" its own corruption and then all of the verses I posted above which prove we do that ourselves are robbed of their meaning. That is a horrible shame.
And of course the same applies to the phrases "sown in dishonor" and "sown in weakness". These were Adam's dishonor and Adam's weakness that he sowed our bodies while he was "in". Thus the sowing was done "in". As the many scriptures I posted show, it merely provides the environment that we exist in for it to be ripe for us to copy his example but we do not have to.
It is either that or you can go ahead and ignore all of those scriptures which show that whether are bodies are actually corrupted depends not on Adam's actions but on our own actions. Adam's actions merely set the bad example and made the environment ripe for it to be easy for us to repeat it (which we have all done because of that environment).
I appreciate you think you understand but you are not seeing deep enough and then that leaves too many loose ends to all of the scriptures I showed you.
Go back and review my discussion of David's words at Psalms 51: 5. I pointed out that the word "iniquity" merely means the punishment of Adam's sin. You can look that up yourself and see. It is saying not that our bodies are the "iniquity" but that they were shapen amidst Adam's iniquity and the conceived (conceived there is the act of birth) thus by birth delivered to an environment of sin. Quite the handicap to us don't you think?
If you want to you can get this.
I keep telling you guys I have believed what you believe. I have been where you are at. No idea you can speak is an idea I have not already known and even believed for a time. And then God advanced me further.
If it sounds like I am cocky that is your imagination. Do not let such thoughts be excuses for not thinking about what you are being told for that is why those thoughts crop up. That is their ill purpose. You have to want to learn bad enough to cast out all such thoughts and give things a chance.
I am confident because it is unmistakable to me who teaches me these things. It is not in the slightest something I have to guess about or ever be concerned that I might have only imagined it. It is as real as if you and I were face to face.
1 Corinthians 15:42 "So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption."
How is it possible that even though we have sown our bodies to corruption we are able to be raised incorruptible?
1 Corinthians 15:43 "It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power."
How is it possible that even though we have sown our bodies to dishonor we are able to be raised to honor? How is possible that though we have in the past sown our bodies in weakness we can let them be raised to power now and have strength for all things now?
If we always see these things only as literal death and resurrection we miss the most important aspect of what Paul is telling us.
Just as being born again is a spiritual rebirth, so also the most important thing we need to see about our resurrection is also spiritual.
We need not worry about the physical for if we focus on the spiritual God will take care of the physical and we will know how to ceremonially cleanse and make holy the physical for use in His temple now.
I agree with what you say here Vengle
Faith in God is the key to Power now. The question is "how do we remove the doubt and increase faith"?
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It says of Christ that he is the firstborn of creation... I have seen this used to say that he is not God, but rather a created being.
But if it were so, how could it say...
[sup]1[/sup] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [sup]2[/sup] He was in the beginning with God. [sup]3[/sup] All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (He also says he was there before Abraham)
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Acts 13:33
God has fulfilled this for us their children, in that He has raised up Jesus. As it is also written in the second Psalm: ‘ You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.’
Christ was begotten at resurrection? Rather the new creation, of which he is the firstborn. Christ is the firstborn of the new creation, all the while being God.