Christ Died for All

[Christian Soldier]

I received God's truth, His word, about 4 years ago in a vision. This vision has been blossoming new aspects of truth ever since. And as new revelations erupt I am able to apply them to my daily life.

This vision did not have its origin in the bible, that is, not second hand knowledge through prophets, teachers or Jesus of the past. No, this was directly from Jesus in heaven, delivered by His Spirit.

You may perceive that the Lord Jesus is revealing new things to you personally and that's OK. But I'm here to assure you that there are no new "revelations" as you put it. There was only one revelation given by the Lord, to the Apostle John, on the isle of Patmos.
Now, unless you are the 13th Apostle (which history somehow lost), then the Lord has not spoken to you. May I suggest it was a Demon, posing as an Angel of light.

Do you think your so special, that the Lord would chose to speak directly to you while ignoring the rest of His people.

I don't believe you mean that the Lord spoke to you directly through His Spirit, I think you mean that His Holy Spirit has led you and helped you understand God Word (The Holy Bible).

Please note what the verse below reveals about the role of the Holy Spirit.

In John 14:26, Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."

This verse highlights the role of the Holy Spirit as a teacher and reminder of Jesus' words. What do you think the Lord meant when He said "He ill teach you all things and bring to remembrance all things I said to you".

Doesn't this mean that the Holy Spirit is only teaching those same things that the Lord Jesus Christ taught. You make it sound like He is revealing new things which nobody else has had the privilege to hear and learn about. I'm sure you're not suggesting that., at least I hope you're not.

 

[One 2 question]

We only have one Holy Bible (the living, all powerful, eternal Word of God).

There are many bibles today. Hundreds.

And there is only One Gospel message.

What do you mean by your words, 'One Gospel message'?

Yes there are many who serve their father (the Devil) and twist the Word of God to create a false narrative and deceive those who have itching ears.

Absolutely, otherwise Satan and his angels would not be doing their job.

Thank God, His children cannot be deceived, because we are not led by wicked spirits but we are led by Gods Holy Spirit. God said, it's impossible to deceive His children, we are immune from the Devils poisonous false gospel.

That's your words, but Jesus did say.....
But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

You have never heard Christ speak, and if you think you have then it was a Demon posing as Christ, because He said "I go away and you see Me no more until I return. Be careful, don't trust every spirit.

No, just Jesus's Holy Spirit. He said He would not leave us as orphans but would send us the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth.

God does not speak directly to any man, He has said everything He wanted to say to us.

When did God tell you this private message? Please tell us more.

Didn't God speak directly to Adam, Moses, Abraham, those at Jesus's baptism?

Doesn't God speak to young men in visions and old men in dreams. And to the church through prophets who prophesy, others who speak in tongues/interpretation.

Personally I love hearing God's expressed thoughts in my spirit, that is, God's words that don't find their origin in the scriptures. I am open to the Spirit to remind me of what He spoke through people in history, especially Jesus when He was here in human form.

Every Word is recorded in the Holy Bible. You agree that we can't digest everything He has said, in one lifetime, but then on the other hand you claim that it's not enough and you need Him to speak to you personally everyday.

Where my family are originally from they lived on a remote island for generations where they ate root vegetables and whatever they could get from the ocean around them.

An opportunity came for my parents to leave the island and go to a different country where they were introduced to rice, chicken, peaches, snow and many other new things.

They returned to their remote village and introduced them to some of the new foods they experienced. Many of those in the village rejected these foreign foods, some even thought we were trying to poison them.

The limited diet of these people in the village was obviously beneficial and profitable to keep them living as human beings generation after generation.

But was it the ONLY food available on the planet that was profitable to keep humans alive generation after generation?

Of course not. God has provided a broad range of beautiful nutritious life giving foods.

So it is with spiritual food. There is no limit to God's truths, God's words, for every word that proceeds from God's mouth are endless flowing from His lips. If only we have ears to hear what the Spirit is saying to Christ's body.

I don't need the Word of God in human form, I don't need to hear Jesus with my ears, I don't need to see Him with my eyes and I don't need to touch Him.

That's fine for you, just as it was fine for my grandparents and their ancestors who lived on a limited diet.

Stick with the scriptures my friend. But please don't condemn or even prevent us who receive God's words of life from beyond the scriptures.

The sad reality is, that seeing Him in person makes no difference and there is no advantage to be had by those who did. If anything, seeing and hearing Him was a added curse for the unbelievers, because they incurred more damnation upon themselves for rejecting Him.

Sure. But for those who did receive Jesus in human form were so blessed as they saw the actual miracles Jesus performed. They heard so much more of what Jesus taught that couldn't be recorded. That would've been fantastic.

The Lord said, "blessed is he who has not seen Me and yet believes Me".

And even better, "blessed is he who has seen Me and believes Me".

Grace and faith are gifts from God, nobody is born with grace and faith. Salvation is only by "grace, through faith", both of these are gifts from God. Nobody can produce these two, they are received as gifts from God and He only gives these gifts to His children.

Amen!

He never gives them to the Devils children.

Not until they are judged, do some time for their crime and repent. Then these too will be saved, redeemed, reconciled to their Creator!

Jesus told the reprobate Pharisees, "you are of your father the Devil".

Even the Pharisees will repent in eternity along with their father the Devil. This is brilliant news! I get excited with the hope of seeing this event play out.

 

[One 2 question]

It's simple, the Lord Jesus Christ (God) was on the earth 2000 years ago. He ascended to heaven and promised that every eye would see Him when He returns.

Now if Jesus returned in secret and spoke to you or anyone else, then that makes Him a liar. Do you believe that Jesus is a liar???...

So Jesus lied when He said His sheep hear His voice. That is sheep of 2 folds, the sheep who respond to the gospel which is the power of God unto salvation, to the Jew FIRST (first fold) then the Gentile (not of the first fold).

Don't the Gentile sheep hear His voice too. If they do, then they don't become His sheep until He leaves earth.

 

[One 2 question]

There is only One Truth, and His name is the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the truth, the way and the life

And 'the Truth' said, But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

I will continue to be led by the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Ghost as a child of God. He's not restricted to historical truths but progressive truth flowing from God's lips to His children.
Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit (and good gifts) to them that ask him?

I ask for good gifts and He gave me the Holy Spirit. And with Him ongoing revelation of the infinite God, an ongoing exploration into all truth, and personally relaying every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

 

[One 2 question]

You may perceive that the Lord Jesus is revealing new things to you personally and that's OK.

Thanks. It is a privilege to be a follower of Jesus and have His Spirit living inside. To receive truth direct from Father and Jesus through Their Spirit.

But I'm here to assure you that there are no new "revelations" as you put it.

I don't necessarily ask for new revelations all the time but the Holy Ghost just gives it. I won't reject Him and His gifts that's for sure. They are so precious when they come.

There was only one revelation given by the Lord, to the Apostle John, on the isle of Patmos.
Now, unless you are the 13th Apostle (which history somehow lost), then the Lord has not spoken to you. May I suggest it was a Demon, posing as an Angel of light.

No you may not. Unless you are going to take a leaf out of the Pharisees book who falsly accused Jesus.....But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”

Do you think your so special, that the Lord would chose to speak directly to you while ignoring the rest of His people.

I am who I am by God's design and will. I am going to receive whatever He gives me and be very thankful.

I'm not interested in competing with Jesus's sheep who hear His voice too. And those who God reveals truth to. We are all fellow servants of God and friends of Jesus.

I don't believe you mean that the Lord spoke to you directly through His Spirit, I think you mean that His Holy Spirit has led you and helped you understand God Word (The Holy Bible).

No, I give God permission to put words in my mouth but not you or others for that matter.

Some truths God's Spirit gives me definitely don't find their origin in the bibles.

Please note what the verse below reveals about the role of the Holy Spirit.

In John 14:26, Jesus says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."

This verse highlights the role of the Holy Spirit as a teacher and reminder of Jesus' words. What do you think the Lord meant when He said "He ill teach you all things and bring to remembrance all things I said to you".

Doesn't this mean that the Holy Spirit is only teaching those same things that the Lord Jesus Christ taught.

Thanks for the question. The simple answer is, NO! Definitely not ONLY. He said, i have more to teach you, more than you can bear now.

In fact Jesus went on to say, the Spirit will lead you into ALL truth. AND ... I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

You make it sound like He is revealing new things which nobody else has had the privilege to hear and learn about. I'm sure you're not suggesting that., at least I hope you're not.

Whether others are given certain gifts, certain truths, certain roles or functions in the church or not, that's not my responsibility. That belongs to the Spirit as directed by Jesus the Head of His church.

I just humbly accept and obediently follow the Spirit. For God through Paul said, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

 

[Christian Soldier]

It is very possible for Christians to be deceived.

The New Testament gives warnings about this and if it were not possible then the Lord would not have put these warnings in His Word. Ya gotta accept the whole counsel of God found in His Word.





That's just what you think and taking that position is actually an open door to deception.

You're much more likely to accept false doctrine if you believe it's impossible for you to be deceived.






That statement is a deception by which you have been deceived to believe the Lord is not speaking to His people..

He speaks to His people primarily thru His Word, but there are some things NOT found in His Word that we need answers for and He can, will, and does speak to His people to lead and guide them. Although it's not an audible voice as He speaks to us thru our conscience provided we are walking with Him and have not been deceived by sinful behavior.

Either your Shepherded has deceived you, or you are self deluded regarding

Matt 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

How did you arrive at the conclusion that "if possible" means "it is possible". If I said to you, "if pigs could fly" you would go and tell people that pigs can fly. But if you're honest you'd admit that "if possible" must mean "not possible".

False teachers "wolves in sheep's clothing" have always tried to deceive everyone, because they don't know who the elect of God are. If they knew who we were, then they would only come after us and they wouldn't bother with those who are already condemned to hell.

The Lord Jesus Christ promised that not a single one of Gods elect will be lost, every single one of us will be saved and nobody can deceive us because we have the truth in us. Every born again believer knows we have eternal security.

God said the fearful shall not inherit his Kingdom, so you can always tell a true believer because we don't have any fear of the Devil or any false christ.

 

[One 2 question]

Doesn't this mean that the Holy Spirit is only teaching those same things that the Lord Jesus Christ taught.

Just to clarify, are saying that the Holy Spirit is only teaching the things Jesus taught AND we're recorded in the bible?

Or all that Jesus actually taught throughout His life on earth? Remember, most of what He taught was never recorded.

Jhn 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
Jhn 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

It's simple, the Lord Jesus Christ (God) was on the earth 2000 years ago. He ascended to heaven and promised that every eye would see Him when He returns.

Speaking of His actual second coming when He lands on the Mount of Olives and starts His 1000 Year Reign.

When the catching away of His faith happens, He won't be seen in the air by every eye, but it won't necessarily be a secret when a few hundred thousand of Christians who are actually faithful to the Lord are suddenly missing from this world as this will be widely reported on all the new stations and across the internet.

Only those that are actually faithful to the Lord will the taken in the catching away

Revelation 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

the Lord Jesus Christ (God) was on the earth 2000 years ago

It's been more than 2000 years now

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Either your Shepherded has deceived you, or you are self deluded regarding

It's actually your "shepard" that deceived you in to believing it's not possible for Christians to be deceived which happens when God's warnings are ignored.

The calvinists are obviously deceived as they twist scripture and ignore portions of God's that disagree with thinking calvin knows more than the Lord which is why they follow calvin instead of Jesus

The Lord Jesus Christ promised that not a single one of Gods elect will be lost, every single one of us will be saved and nobody can deceive us because we have the truth in us. Every born again believer knows we have eternal security.

Judas was lost having once been one of the elect.

Eternal security is ONLY applicable to those that abide in Christ and not all who get born again abide in Christ enduring until the end of their lives as some fall away after having been born again. (see Mark Mark 4:13-20)

These are some of the warnings we see in the Word of the Lord written to Christians:

Matthew 24:4,5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

*Many includes those claiming "I am anointed" that are deceiving many (false teachers)

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

("depart from the faith" is not referring to sinners in the world who never came to faith in the first place)

1 Timothy 6:3-5 (see Luke 11:23 and 2 Peter 3:2)
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (holiness); (Doctrine of Christ, aka Doctrine of the Apostles)
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof comes envy, strife, railings, evil thoughts… Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)
(Deny = Strong's G0720… to contradict, disavow, reject, deny, refuse - and Strong's G4483… the idea of pouring forth, to utter, speak of or say, command)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)

Matthew 24:3-13
What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (including saying “I am anointed”); and shall deceive many.
And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation (ethnic group vs ethnic group), and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in many different places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (See 1 John 5:3 AND 2 John 1:6)
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

The calvinists never allow what the Lord says in His Word to get in the way of the deceptions they are deceived with

 

[Christian Soldier]

Just to clarify, are saying that the Holy Spirit is only teaching the things Jesus taught AND we're recorded in the bible?

Or all that Jesus actually taught throughout His life on earth? Remember, most of what He taught was never recorded.

Jhn 21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
Jhn 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Yes, I did mean that the Holy Spirit would only teach us about the things recorded in the Bible. I'm glad it was only those things and not everything spoke during His time on the earth, as it would blow our puny little minds.

In any case, Jesus never taught anything for 30 years. He only stared teaching at the age of 30 as per Jewish law. Please don't mention the occasion when the 12 year old Jesus debated the teachers in the Synagogue. He didn't speak as a Rabbi or teacher on that occasion. It seems they were astounded by His knowledge of the Scripture.

I'm sure you would agree that one lifetime is not enough to unpack, process and digest everything Jesus said, which is recorded for us in the Bible. So, it makes no sense to suggest that we need more revelation, since we can even eat what's already on our plate.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Speaking of His actual second coming when He lands on the Mount of Olives and starts His 1000 Year Reign.

When the catching away of His faith happens, He won't be seen in the air by every eye, but it won't necessarily be a secret when a few hundred thousand of Christians who are actually faithful to the Lord are suddenly missing from this world as this will be widely reported on all the new stations and across the internet.

Only those that are actually faithful to the Lord will the taken in the catching away

Revelation 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.





It's been more than 2000 years now

I have never found anything in my Bible to suggest that the Lord Jesus Christ, is commi9ng back to reign for a 1000 years. My Bible tells me that He's coming back as a Man of War, with legions of Angels to judge the world and wage war against the kings of the world and their armies.
Billions of men, women, children and unborn babies in their m other womb will be slaughtered. Rivers of blood will around 5 feet deep. That doesn't sound like a 1000 year reign to me, it sounds more like the day of judgement and the end of time itself.

We have been enjoying Christ's millennial reign upon the earth, ever since He bound the Devil in great chains so he can no longer deceive Gods children from all the nations. The millennial reign, us not a literal 100 years. It began around 2000 years ago, on the cross. The Devil has had no power over Gods children since then, Jesus promised to save all those the Father gave Him before He created the world and nothing can snatch us out of the Fathers hand.

 

[Christian Soldier]

It's actually your "shepard" that deceived you in to believing it's not possible for Christians to be deceived which happens when God's warnings are ignored.

The calvinists are obviously deceived as they twist scripture and ignore portions of God's that disagree with thinking calvin knows more than the Lord which is why they follow calvin instead of Jesus






Judas was lost having once been one of the elect.

Eternal security is ONLY applicable to those that abide in Christ and not all who get born again abide in Christ enduring until the end of their lives as some fall away after having been born again. (see Mark Mark 4:13-20)

These are some of the warnings we see in the Word of the Lord written to Christians:

Matthew 24:4,5
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

*Many includes those claiming "I am anointed" that are deceiving many (false teachers)

1 Timothy 4:1,2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron

("depart from the faith" is not referring to sinners in the world who never came to faith in the first place)

1 Timothy 6:3-5 (see Luke 11:23 and 2 Peter 3:2)
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (holiness); (Doctrine of Christ, aka Doctrine of the Apostles)
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof comes envy, strife, railings, evil thoughts… Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

2 Timothy 4:3,4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine (teaching); but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying (contradicting, Not agreeing with) the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness (idolatry) shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness (no self control, living after the flesh), and denying (contradicting, opposing Jesus’ teachings) the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (referring to false teachers and false brethren - see Matthew 13:24-30)
(Deny = Strong's G0720… to contradict, disavow, reject, deny, refuse - and Strong's G4483… the idea of pouring forth, to utter, speak of or say, command)

Jude 1:17-21
Remember the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These are those who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But you, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
("those who separate themselves" is not referring to sinners in the world who were never joined unto the Lord in the first place)

Matthew 24:3-13
What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (including saying “I am anointed”); and shall deceive many.
And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation (ethnic group vs ethnic group), and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in many different places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (See 1 John 5:3 AND 2 John 1:6)
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

The calvinists never allow what the Lord says in His Word to get in the way of the deceptions they are deceived with

You're obviously a rigid Arminian, who is not interested in the truth so you'd rather push your false doctrine on me than consider what Gods Word has to say.

I noticed you ignore the more than 120 verses which confirm the doctrine of election onto salvation. You refer to unrelated obscure verses and twist them to fit your false Arminian, perverted version of the gospel.

I can't have any fellowship with those who hold to the abominable Arminian theology. I'm not here to win you over, or t convince you to believe anything, because I know that only God opens the eyes of His elect. He leaves the rest dead in their sin.

I will pray for you, but I'm not going to debate theology with you. Most professing Christians hate the truth of the gospel so they twist it to make it fit their carnal lifestyle.

 

[One 2 question]

I have never found anything in my Bible to suggest that the Lord Jesus Christ, is commi9ng back to reign for a 1000 years. My Bible tells me that He's coming back as a Man of War, with legions of Angels to judge the world and wage war against the kings of the world and their armies.
Billions of men, women, children and unborn babies in their m other womb will be slaughtered. Rivers of blood will around 5 feet deep. That doesn't sound like a 1000 year reign to me, it sounds more like the day of judgement and the end of time itself.

We have been enjoying Christ's millennial reign upon the earth, ever since He bound the Devil in great chains so he can no longer deceive Gods children from all the nations. The millennial reign, us not a literal 100 years. It began around 2000 years ago, on the cross. The Devil has had no power over Gods children since then, Jesus promised to save all those the Father gave Him before He created the world and nothing can snatch us out of the Fathers hand.

Great to know hey. Glad you're enjoying Jesus's reign now. Many of us are looking forward to His future reign also.

 

[One 2 question]

Yes, I did mean that the Holy Spirit would only teach us about the things recorded in the Bible. I'm glad it was only those things and not everything spoke during His time on the earth, as it would blow our puny little minds.

Why did Jesus teach all the truths He did (beyond the scriptures and the bibles) if their puny little minds couldn't receive it. Just after He left Jesus sent the Spirit who would lead us into, not just what Jesus taught, but all truth. Remember, we have the mind of Christ when we possess the Spirit of Christ.

In any case, Jesus never taught anything for 30 years. He only stared teaching at the age of 30 as per Jewish law. Please don't mention the occasion when the 12 year old Jesus debated the teachers in the Synagogue. He didn't speak as a Rabbi or teacher on that occasion. It seems they were astounded by His knowledge of the Scripture.

I'm sure you would agree that one lifetime is not enough to unpack, process and digest everything Jesus said, which is recorded for us in the Bible.

Whether that be truth or not, there is so much more of God's words He has been revealing way beyond the little documented in the bibles.

So, it makes no sense to suggest that we need more revelation, since we can even eat what's already on our plate.

As an infant, they could say, all us babies could live off breast milk for the rest of our life. But we know eventually they will require solids.

You can stay with the scriptures if you wish but for me I am going to keep seeking and finding more words that proceeds from the mouth of God. New revelations of truths not recorded in the bibles are being given to the church. Love it!

 

[One 2 question]

Why did Jesus teach all the truths He did (beyond the scriptures and the bibles) if their puny little minds couldn't receive it. Just after He left Jesus sent the Spirit who would lead us into, not just what Jesus taught, but all truth.

Whether that be truth or not, there is so much more of God's words He has been revealing way beyond the little documented in the bibles.

As an infant, they could say, all us babies could live off breast milk for the rest of our life. But we know eventually they will require solids.

You can stay with the scriptures if you wish but for me I am going to keep seeking and finding more words that proceeds from the mouth of God. New revelations of truths not recorded in the bibles are being given to the church. Love it!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I have never found anything in my Bible to suggest that the Lord Jesus Christ, is coming back to reign for a 1000 years.

No need to worry about it, apparently you won't be involved.

My Bible tells me that He's coming back as a Man of War, with legions of Angels to judge the world and wage war against the kings of the world and their armies.
Billions of men, women, children and unborn babies in their m other womb will be slaughtered. Rivers of blood will around 5 feet deep.

And it's AFTER all that, He reigns 1000 Years over the earth and His faithful will reign with Him in glorified bodies like He has now.

We have been enjoying Christ's millennial reign upon the earth, ever since He bound the Devil in great chains so he can no longer deceive Gods children from all the nations. The millennial reign, us not a literal 100 years. It began around 2000 years ago, on the cross. The Devil has had no power over Gods children since then, Jesus promised to save all those the Father gave Him before He created the world and nothing can snatch us out of the Fathers hand.

You're very confused.

It's been over 2000 years since Jesus was here so that's been more than a millennial and you know a millennial is 1000 years and no, the devil has not been locked up all this time seeing all the evil going on in the world, not to mention Hebrews 2:8 tells us Jesus has not assumed absolute control over the earth yet

We see in the Book of Hebrews that Jesus has not assumed full control over this world yet:

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him

And, we also see that the devil is called the god of this world which
will not change until Jesus returns to start His 1000 year reign and
throws the devil and his demons in to hell.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which
believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who
is the image of God, should shine unto them.

And we see that the last enemy put under foot is death which has not happened as of yet.

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

[One 2 question]

No need to worry about it, apparently you won't be involved.






And it's AFTER all that, He reigns 1000 Years over the earth and His faithful will reign with Him in glorified bodies like He has now.






You're very confused.

It's been over 2000 years since Jesus was here so that's been more than a millennial and you know a millennial is 1000 years and no, the devil has not been locked up all this time seeing all the evil going on in the world, not to mention Hebrews 2:8 tells us Jesus has not assumed absolute control over the earth yet

We see in the Book of Hebrews that Jesus has not assumed full control over this world yet:

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him

And, we also see that the devil is called the god of this world which
will not change until Jesus returns to start His 1000 year reign and
throws the devil and his demons in to hell.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which
believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who
is the image of God, should shine unto them.

And we see that the last enemy put under foot is death which has not happened as of yet.

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Wow. It does seem that the 1000 year reign of Christ is yet to come. With all these wars and so many threats of war it does seem like we are only experiencing birth pains not peace.

But this is where interpretation of scriptures vary SO much.

What is the Spirit of God saying to the church regarding Christ's reign? What's the Spirit saying to YOU personally, Spirit to spirit.

This is something that may not be practiced much these days, listening to the Spirit communicating to us directly, not via the bible.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Wow. It does seem that the 1000 year reign of Christ is yet to come. With all these wars and so many threats of war it does seem like we are only experiencing birth pains not peace.

But this is where interpretation of scriptures vary SO much.

What is the Spirit of God saying to the church regarding Christ's reign? What's the Spirit saying to YOU personally, Spirit to spirit.

This is something that may not be practiced much these days, listening to the Spirit communicating to us directly, not via the bible.

The Lord is telling me to not worry about the wars and rumors of wars as this will continue on and on.
But then again the Lord delivered me to fear years ago so I'm not worrying about nothing. I see to it that my heart is not troubled

1 Peter 5:7
Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Philippians 4:6
Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

John 14:1
Let not your heart be troubled

Christians are to be abiding In Christ continually and be about the Great Commission and making disciples

It's nice to be able to study end times stuff a little but let's not get all tin foil hat over it like so many are doing which distracts them from the Great Commission

 

[RenewedStrength316]

Yahweh’s love for the sin- cursed and dying race has been made operative through the gift of his Son to be man’s Redeemer. In John 3:16 we read, "God So loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." This text limits the receiving of everlasting life to those who "believe." But, as Paul asks, "How shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard?" (Romans 10:14) And the same apostle also explains that the "god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:4) This indicates that as long as Satan continues to rule this "present evil world," even those who do hear the Gospel imperfectly presented do not have a fair opportunity to believe.

One of the biblical words used to describe the redemptive work of Christ is "ransom," and Paul explains that a knowledge of the ransom will be testified to all in due time. To Timothy he wrote: "This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there Is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, the ma Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time."—1Ti 2:3- 6

The sequence stated in this text is most revealing. Paul says that it is God’s will that all shall first be "saved" and then come to a "knowledge of the truth." So far as eternal salvation is concerned, it must be based upon a knowledge 01 the "ransom for all" and a belief and obedience in harmony therewith. What, then, does Paul mean by being "saved’ before coming to a knowledge of the truth? Obviously this is reference to the fact that in order to have a genuine opportunity to know about the "ransom for all," the entire unbelieving world will need to be "saved," or awakened from the sleep of death.

It will be after the people are awakened from death, as Paul indicates, that the glorious truth of the ransom and the manner in which is gives evidence of God’s love will be testified" to them. That will be the "due time" when the "sea" will be converted unto the Lord. Satan, the great deceiver, will then be bound, and the knowledge of the Lord will fill the earth. Then the way will be made plain, So plain that "wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein."—Isa 35:8 The word "ransom" means a price to correspond, or a price to offset. When Adam sinned he was a perfect man, the "son of God." (Luke 3:38) God’s just law, demanding an "eye for an eye,”a”tooth for a tooth,”a”life for a life,”meant that if Adam was to be redeemed another perfect man would have to take his place in death. (Exodus 21:23,24; Deuteronomy 19:21) It was for this purpose that Jesus was made flesh—a perfect human being, "holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners.’ ‘—Gal 4:4; Hebrews 7:26 The claim has been made that Adam was not redeemed by the blood of Christ because he was a willful sinner. The fact is that if Adam had not sinned willfully God could have forgiven him without a ransom. It was because God loved him despite his willful sin that, in order to give him another opportunity for life, he sent Jesus to be a ransom for him. Addressing those who have believed on Jesus and have already accepted the provisions of the ransom, Paul wrote, "If we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins." (Hebrews 10:26) From this it is clear that if another sacrifice for sin were to be made, the willful sin of those who now have a knowledge of the truth would be atoned for, and they could return to harmony with God if they wished. It is only because there will be "no more" sacrifice for sin that the reconciliation of present willful sinners will never be possible. Jesus atoned for the willful sin of Adam, So Adam will be awakened from the sleep of death and given another opportunity to live forever.

Adam’s children inherited his sin and the sentence of death which came upon him because of his disobedience. (Romans 5:12) Thus, when Jesus redeemed Adam, it meant that he also redeemed his offspring, who lost life through him. Paul explains the philosophy of this, saying: "If by one man’s offense death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even s by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all mer [including Adam] unto justification of Iife."—Ro 5:17- 19 Christ stated that he came to give his life a "ransom for many." (Matthew 20:28) The Greek text reads, "the many.’ The word "many" as used in this text means an indefinite large number. In the Greek it is polus, and it was this word which Jesus used when he said to his disciples, "The harvest truly is plenteous [polus], but the laborers are few.’ (Matthew 9:37) This contrasting use of the word polus strongly indicates that it denotes a great number, and what better word could Jesus have used to describe the countless millions whom he came to ransom by his precious blood?

The Apostle Paul emphasizes the largeness of this number when he says that Jesus gave himself a ransom for "all"—that is, for the entire human race. This does not mean, o course, that the entire human race will be eternally saved as result of the ransom, for it Is mandatory that there be an individual acceptance of this provision of Jehovah’s grace ii order to receive everlasting benefit from it. But the provision has been made for all; and because of this no one will remain in death because of Adam’s sin, for all have been ransomed therefrom.

I appreciate the effort to highlight the depth of Christ’s ransom and the scope of God’s love, but your post makes several theological leaps that need to be addressed—because when we talk about salvation, we’re not dealing with ideas, we’re dealing with eternal destinies.

Yes, God’s love for a dying world was revealed in the gift of His Son (John 3:16), and yes, Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all (1 Timothy 2:6)—but let’s be honest about what that means. It doesn’t mean that all will automatically be saved. Scripture is painfully clear: “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him” (John 3:36). The ransom is available to all, but only applied to those who believe and obey.

You quoted Romans 10:14 rightly: people must hear to believe. But Paul’s point wasn’t to say “Let’s wait until after death to preach.” His burden was for us to preach now—because now is the day of salvation (2 Corinthians 6:2). There’s no biblical evidence that the gospel will be preached after death to those who rejected it in this life. Hebrews 9:27 crushes that idea: “It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.”

The idea that people will be resurrected just to be given a “better chance” at hearing the gospel goes against the clear teaching of Jesus in Luke 16:19–31, where the rich man in torment is told that no one can cross from one side to the other after death. The decisions made in this life matter forever. This isn’t a rehearsal.

The claim that Adam’s willful sin still gets atoned for and that “all men” will be awakened and have another opportunity may sound merciful, but it guts the urgency of the cross and the call to repentance. The blood of Jesus doesn’t override free will; it confronts every person with a choice: repent and believe, or perish (Luke 13:3; John 8:24).

Yes, Christ is the second Adam (Romans 5:12–19), and His sacrifice made salvation possible for all. But salvation is not automatic. It’s conditional—by grace, through faith (Ephesians 2:8–9). Without faith in Christ, no one will be justified.

Finally, this line: “Jesus atoned for the willful sin of Adam, so Adam will be awakened from the sleep of death and given another opportunity to live forever”—has no biblical backing. In fact, Hebrews 10:26 says that if we sin willfully after receiving the truth, there remains no more sacrifice. That warning was for us—not Adam. And if that applies to us, it certainly applied to Adam.

 

[Berean]

Yes, God’s love for a dying world was revealed in the gift of His Son (John 3:16), and yes, Christ gave Himself as a ransom for all (1 Timothy 2:6)—but let’s be honest about what that means. It doesn’t mean that all will automatically be saved. Scripture is painfully clear: “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him” (John 3:36). The ransom is available to all, but only applied to those who believe and obey.

Well, I never said "all will automatically be saved." I do believe ALL will be given the opportunity to be saved.

You quoted Romans 10:14 rightly: people must hear to believe. But Paul’s point wasn’t to say “Let’s wait until after death to preach.” His burden was for us to preach now—because now is the day of salvation (2 Corinthians 6:2). There’s no biblical evidence that the gospel will be preached after death to those who rejected it in this life. Hebrews 9:27 crushes that idea: “It is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment.”

Well, if they're dead, why bother to raise them only to put them back in the grave or if you're a proponent of hellfire and brimstone, to torture them for all eternity? Which begs the question: if you die without Christ in this life, where do you go? Certainly not heaven, and if hell is the place, is it hellfire or the sleep in the grave? If someone goes to hell, why bring them back to be judged, only to be sent back to the flames? NO, I believe the scriptures teach that every man, woman, and child who ever lived will be resurrected and enter into the Kingdom reign of Christ and the Church. There, during that millennial reign, they will learn what God did for them through the person of Jesus, free from the influence of Satan, who will be tossed into the abyss. Mankind will then grow in grace and knowledge, and eventually human perfection, then Satan will be let loose for a little season to deceive the nations. Mankind will then be tested, and those who fail will go into destruction; the rest will inherit the earth.

The idea that people will be resurrected just to be given a “better chance” at hearing the gospel goes against the clear teaching of Jesus in Luke 16:19–31, where the rich man in torment is told that no one can cross from one side to the other after death. The decisions made in this life matter forever. This isn’t a rehearsal.

Let me ask, what is the Millennial Kingdom for? This is a parable that had nothing to do with hellfire.

The claim that Adam’s willful sin still gets atoned for and that “all men” will be awakened and have another opportunity may sound merciful, but it guts the urgency of the cross and the call to repentance. The blood of Jesus doesn’t override free will; it confronts every person with a choice: repent and believe, or perish (Luke 13:3; John 8:24).

Yes, Christ is the second Adam (Romans 5:12–19), and His sacrifice made salvation possible for all. But salvation is not automatic. It’s conditional—by grace, through faith (Ephesians 2:8–9). Without faith in Christ, no one will be justified.

Finally, this line: “Jesus atoned for the willful sin of Adam, so Adam will be awakened from the sleep of death and given another opportunity to live forever”—has no biblical backing. In fact, Hebrews 10:26 says that if we sin willfully after receiving the truth, there remains no more sacrifice. That warning was for us—not Adam. And if that applies to us, it certainly applied to Adam.

Again, you miss the point. All will not be saved, but all will be given the opportunity to be saved.