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It's an official socio-political philosophy and movement or group of movements. It basically is like secular anarchism that would want no government and other kind of institutions but for newfangled Evangelical Christian reasons similar to the ones in the Original Post. You can fine those kind of sentiments from liberals who bring those kind of sentiments into Christianity, along with the "Jesus people" of the 1970s who brought the Hippy Counter Culture sentiments into Christianity, not so much with substance use, or free love etc. but "Disestablishmentariainism", because Jesus in different ways as Messiah did do a certain amount of that overturning money changer tables, playing down the use of titles etc.

I would add I used to deal with folks like this all the time 20 years ago. There was a defunct message board called the ooze dot com. It was filled with lots of people but a good chunk of them were fans of wanting to reinvent how to do church with House Churches, books like Frank Violas "Pagan Christianity" (falsely claimed that large Church services came from pagan corruption), as well as lots of counter culture folks from Jesus Movement boomers who were in modern Pentecostal and Charismatic churches, and occasionally some Christian Anarchists.
That's a Red Herring.

Nationalism has nothing at all to do with Anarchism.

Christian Anarchism is contrary to the New Testament teachings as well.
Another invented term designed to make Christians appear to be radical religious anti-government zealots.
 
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That's a Red Herring.

Nationalism has nothing at all to do with Anarchism.

Christian Anarchism is contrary to the New Testament teachings as well.
Another invented term designed to make Christians appear to be radical religious anti-government zealots.
Anti-governmental? Well, the Stoics/Gnostics did identify as Christians and were anti-governmental. On the other hand, too many interpret Romans 13 to take a knee and submit before gods, like the Emperor of Rome or Caesar, and some go so far as to take a knee before the ruler of the World, the prince of darkness, or Satan.
I could be considered anti-governmental if in a socialist/communist/secularist government. America's framework was never intended to be a true theocracy.

We all know that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego as well Daniel took a knee before the image of Nebuchadnezzar (excuse my humor). The question is, if someone hasn't considered this, then "why"? Culture, Loyalist, and Pacifist? At least the Loyalist and Pacifist existed in the time of the 13 colonies (Anglicans and Quakers), but not this "postmodern" culture that has turned the church's "conservative" interpreters liberals in self-denial. If uneducated, post-modernism was developed by Nazi Germany to combat religious absolutes. It's everywhere in American culture today, especially in academia.
Of interest, there is no "conservative" Jew in Judaism, only Orthodox, Reformed, or Progressive. And both Reformed and Progressives are liberal interpreters. Paul said he was the Pharisee; the question is, from what school? Liberal or Orthodox? That is Hillel or Shammai? Liberalism has won in Judaism by majority since the days of Jesus. I believe Paul was from Hillel pertaining to Torah observance.
 
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And your complete ignorance is glaring.

Complete ignorance…blind, would never recognize the truth, worship a US President, fascinating (in a comical way) Opinions Nancy!

Do you not realize that Satan has already for thousands of years now, has his own minions in the highest offices of govt., big corporations and especially the modern day churches.

Gee… by your Opinion, I must have completely miss basic Satan 101!!!
And… you figured it out…
By what Evidence?
That I don’t follow You, your (following ) / or maybe by your definition “worship” / of “edited” news organizations and media?

Didn't Jesus say to Love your enemies? To bless those who persecute you? Among a whole lot of other things along those same lines.

Sure… and my preference is a higher focus on praying for my like spirited saints… and “leave the hating” to people like you.
 

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Complete ignorance…blind, would never recognize the truth, worship a US President, fascinating (in a comical way) Opinions Nancy!
Christians don't worship our president. Nor do we imagine such a thing possible.
Someone here once claimed we see President Trump as our God.

Hateful people say hateful things.
Gee… by your Opinion, I must have completely miss basic Satan 101!!!
And… you figured it out…
By what Evidence?
That I don’t follow You, your (following ) / or maybe by your definition “worship” / of “edited” news organizations and media?
From the Psalms.
My son, if sinners entice you, do not consent.

Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge.

Sure… and my preference is a higher focus on praying for my like spirited saints… and “leave the hating” to people like you.
 

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The most successful military campaign in human history labeled failed. What gaslighting!

I heard there are Left Wing Packs,as in ,of wolves,who hire people to write blogs, X posts,and so forth,with the sole purpose of disparaging America,Trump,members of the Conservative party, and Conservative values.

Easy money at the cost of their souls.




 
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The most successful military campaign in human history labeled failed. What gaslighting!
Is that because Obama got involved after the war? Just for a point of interest, remember Osama?
Ever ask why a "sophisticated Black Hawk" was lost in the assassination of Bin Laden? Obama delayed the operation for the following day after the mission was coordinated to go. The mission was planned for the night before, but Obama had a high-profile dinner party, and he wanted the credit for conducting the operation if successful (historically and publicly substantiated). The next day, or specifically night, the temperature was warmer, and the chopper carrying its load lost lift (less air density) above the compound; right above the ground, the Black Hawk was "bricked."
President and Commander in Chief are two different offices held by the same person. A president is political. But when the commander in chief, for example, says, "I cannot confirm or deny," then everybody under his command should say, "I cannot confirm or deny." In other words, his personal pronouns are plural.
I believe it was one of the worst decisions to abolish the criteria of military service for the office of president and commander in chief.
Obama really has a loud mouth to compel SEALs to step out and speak against him.
 
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I heard there are Left Wing Packs,as in ,of wolves,who hire people to write blogs, X posts,and so forth,with the sole purpose of disparaging America,Trump,members of the Conservative party, and Conservative values.

Easy money at the cost of their souls.




I moved here to my current location because I searched for the most Conservative Christian area in the U.S.
I mean conservative Christian; I'll be moving soon. I didn't realize Mormons identify themselves as "Christian." Learned something after I got here: Mormons believe the Constitution is inspired by G-d.
I suppose G-d couldn't make up his mind concerning the 18th and 21st amendments. And recently, it has now become legal to make your own whiskey. Hey, Prohibitionist! Moonshine! Any Episcopalians, cough, I mean Whiskeypalians here?
Since when was the First Amendment intended to not only protect porneia but also become an umbrella for all religions?
Secular journalism (freedom of the press) and Satanism, among other religions such as Islam, Hinduism, etc.? These interpretations have only occurred a little over a century ago. Political conservatives today usher in the same principle of pluralism as that of the liberal/dem party. This is what I mean to convey, by suggesting that the churches and entire nation are absorbed in culture.

The party of "the enemy within."

 
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Some of us prefer to live in the real world.
Just for fun, compile the deaths to achieve victory for the following campaigns, military and civilian and compare it to the greatest military accomplishments in human history, the destruction of the Iranian regime at the brink of being a nuclear power:
  1. Peloponnesian War
  2. An Lushan Rebellion
  3. Mongol Conquests
  4. Qing Conquest of China
  5. Thirty Years' War
  6. Napoleonic Wars
  7. World War I
  8. Russian Civil War
  9. Second Sino-Japanese War
  10. World War II
Then the financial cost. Someone pointed out the amazing victory in Iran still cost less than the fraud in Minnesota.
 

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Is that because Obama got involved after the war? Just for a point of interest, remember Osama?
Ever ask why a "sophisticated Black Hawk" was lost in the assassination of Bin Laden? Obama delayed the operation for the following day after the mission was coordinated to go. The mission was planned for the night before, but Obama had a high-profile dinner party, and he wanted the credit for conducting the operation if successful (historically and publicly substantiated). The next day, or specifically night, the temperature was warmer, and the chopper carrying its load lost lift (less air density) above the compound; right above the ground, the Black Hawk was "bricked."
President and Commander in Chief are two different offices held by the same person. A president is political. But when the commander in chief, for example, says, "I cannot confirm or deny," then everybody under his command should say, "I cannot confirm or deny." In other words, his personal pronouns are plural.
I believe it was one of the worst decisions to abolish the criteria of military service for the office of president and commander in chief.
Obama really has a loud mouth to compel SEALs to step out and speak against him.
Barack Husein Obama is a Traitor.
 
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Just for fun, compile the deaths to achieve victory for the following campaigns, military and civilian and compare it to the greatest military accomplishments in human history, the destruction of the Iranian regime at the brink of being a nuclear power:
  1. Peloponnesian War
  2. An Lushan Rebellion
  3. Mongol Conquests
  4. Qing Conquest of China
  5. Thirty Years' War
  6. Napoleonic Wars
  7. World War I
  8. Russian Civil War
  9. Second Sino-Japanese War
  10. World War II
Then the financial cost. Someone pointed out the amazing victory in Iran still cost less than the fraud in Minnesota.



Keep in mind,war spending is a prime opportunity for fraud schemes.
 

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I heard there are Left Wing Packs,as in ,of wolves,who hire people to write blogs, X posts,and so forth,with the sole purpose of disparaging America,Trump,members of the Conservative party, and Conservative values.

Easy money at the cost of their souls.




@Wrangler , how's that funny?
 

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Chicago murder rates are about 650 a year. It is alleged that throughout the course of the Iraq War, there were about 4400 American deaths in combat.
On the topic of secularism, more have allegedly been killed in the 19th century alone than in every religious war combined.
Of course, statistics don't include the murder of the unborn, and those who advocate for abortion commit 3000-3500 murders every day in the U.S. alone.
I appeal to ignorance; secularists take lives and have murdered more than any of their contributions deemed worthy of any Nobel Peace Prize. Of course, most statisticians won't lump secularists in with socialists or communists, but by current modern events, they are who socialists and communists have in common.
 
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Christians don't worship our president. Nor do we imagine such a thing possible.
Someone here once claimed we see President Trump as our God.

Fully aware.

Gaslighting has become yet another popular ploy the secular society, under any auspice is game to play.

Glory to God,
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