Christian Nationalism

[Lizbeth]

It’s the EXACT SAME THING. We have the burden to do justice and this is true be it directly or through our agents. Scripture is filled with examples of agents, one person doing something on behalf of another. Moses didn’t say, talking to Pharaoh is not my job. John didn’t keep his opinions of Herod to himself.

Let me say it again; doing justice is not the exclusive burden of those outside the church.

You take “loving our enemies” to mean be victims; that’s foolish and wrong. And you are totally wrong to pretend we ONLY have a “higher” calling; that’s your over-spiritualization again. Jesus didn’t use that cop out - he said Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. To your way of thinking, doing the needful is beneath you.

1. Why do you ignore Ordoro Amoris?
2. Why do you ignore YHWH is A warrior in command of divine armies is who we are made in the image of, who commanded his chosen people to kill women, children, babies and animals.
3. And why do you not answer my other questions?

Avoiding these questions tell the story.

Yes, it tells the story that I can't keep up with every question and comment, lol. Not young anymore and am thankful I've kept up this much. Lord willing, I've been saying enough that it covers enough generally. You want to reason logically with the carnal mind, but Jesus gives us spiritual truth and spiritual understanding.

That is just sick and sad if you honestly think Jesus wants His new covenant people to kill men, women, children, babies and animals in His name. Kill all the infidels..? Are you Catholic by any chance? Muslim? Talmudic Jew? See how they all have that in common...? Either way, I hope you will come to Christ and He will give you light.

 

[Wrangler]

You want to reason logically with the carnal mind, but Jesus gives us spiritual truth and spiritual understanding.

Jesus also gives us soulful grounding. Thus thread is NOT about HIGHER Christian Spirituality but the LOWER, soulful considerations of national importance.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, it tells the story that I can't keep up with every question and comment, lol.

Not too intellectually honest. Your position can’t withstand scrutiny.

 

[Wrangler]

That is just sick and sad if you honestly think Jesus wants His new covenant people to kill men, women, children, babies and animals in His name.

Nobody wants this! It doesn’t mean it may not be necessary for survival. Hence, buy a sword.

 

[Wrangler]

I hope you will come to Christ and He will give you light.

I have come to Christ and he gave me the light to discern the spiritual from the soulful.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Anchorite]

 

[Justified]

Thus thread is NOT about HIGHER Christian Spirituality but the LOWER, soulful considerations of national importance.

Correct. This thread is about worldliness and how many "Christians" in the U.S. are more willing to follow the world instead of scripture, making politics their idol and preferring proof-texting over understanding everything in context.

 

[Wrangler]

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Great! How does this advance the cause of a Christ-centered State?

 

[Ziggy]

 

[amigo de christo]

Great! How does this advance the cause of a Christ-centered State?

Now buckle up padnah . Obama said something just like that .
YOU ALL have no idea what spirit you now follow .
YOU have tied all hopes into the earthern just like the left did and does .
YALL are ready , TRULY ready , the hour is ripe
for the nuetral one and its inclusive an ti christ agenda .
You are not going to make it . I wish i had better news for you , but you are not g onna make it .
Unless YOU decide TO DO something about it .
AS for me , THEY can keep all their poli tics , all their ecumencial hog wash and false peace and false love .
ITS JESUS FOR ME and no matter the cost , ITS JESUS FOR ME .

 

[amigo de christo]

Great! How does this advance the cause of a Christ-centered State?

THERE IS NO CHRIST CENTERED state . THEY LIED to you , like ROME lied many centuries ago too
When it too merg ed church and state .
You will weep , beg , plead on JESUS Day , IF YOU DO NOT get off this train ride you are on now .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, it tells the story that I can't keep up with every question and comment, lol. Not young anymore and am thankful I've kept up this much. Lord willing, I've been saying enough that it covers enough generally. You want to reason logically with the carnal mind, but Jesus gives us spiritual truth and spiritual understanding.

That is just sick and sad if you honestly think Jesus wants His new covenant people to kill men, women, children, babies and animals in His name. Kill all the infidels..? Are you Catholic by any chance? Muslim? Talmudic Jew? See how they all have that in common...? Either way, I hope you will come to Christ and He will give you light.

Sister , they aint gonna make it . They as have many bought the Christ centered state .
IN other words , SISTER T HEY ARE FULLY and WHOLE HEARTED all about the earthen , WHICH they believe
to be of the heavenly .
Well its been nice knowing you sister . BUT our persecution and be trayal draws quite nigh indeed .
And i just do not know how much longer we are even going to be allowed to remain on sites
THE DIGITAL SYSTEM will do the work of the incl usive god .
And as usual the leaders of nations can act as if t hey aint go noth i ng to do with this .
A lady in the UK spoke up and said a solid truth .
THE govts can simply sit back and dont even have to get involved at all .
THE SYSTEM will be what has power over it all .
IF that seems hard to beleive
DID you see the govts causing all that boy cotting and silencing voices . NO
In fact look real closely at this digital square .
Just the simple fact that it is mentioned that anyone who says anything deemed as hatef ul and offensive
THAT THE PLATFORM itself can be fined .
THEY will AUTOMATICALLY REMOVE IT . OUT OF FEAR of being fined .
THIS SYSTEM will do all the work and the so called govts and leaders can just sit back and pretend
THEY aint doing a thing .

 

[Triumph1300]

THERE IS NO CHRIST CENTERED state . THEY LIED to you , like ROME lied many centuries ago too

Exactly.

This Maga Trump based Christian War Mongering movement is the same as the Radical war mongering Muslim movement.
Both religieus groups are based on hate and violence.

This foolish Christian bunch is still living in the Old Testament and have no idea what Christ did on the cross.
They have nothing in common with true Christianity.

And of course the Muslim bunch is haywire in another way but just as fanatic and blood thirsty.
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Enjoy your day.

 

[Triumph1300]

You will weep , beg , plead on JESUS Day , IF YOU DO NOT get off this train ride you are on now .

Amen to that one!

 

[Wrangler]

This Maga Trump based Christian War Mongering movement is the same as the Radical war mongering Muslim movement.

Yea, right! Stopping nuclear Armageddon = starting nuclear Armageddon. This shows THE PERVERSION OF EQUALITY and no capacity for discernment.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Gray_Joy]

I don't believe government should be pacifist, only the body of Christ, His church/ekklesia.....who have been called out of the world. Our warfare is spiritual, not carnal. Law was added because of transgressions.....it is a practical necessity in this world for the unrighteous, not the righteous.

Jesus didn't agree.
Those who don't defend their family and home from aggressors,evil,are worse than an unbeliever.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Luk 10:17-20

And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.


Jhn 12:31-33

NOW is the judgment of this world: NOW shall the prince of this world be cast out.

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

This he said, signifying what death he should die.


Mat 28:18

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Has no relevance to my post.

Look,I
understand,well,I don't understand it but I recognize, you and others like you delete the Old Testament from your belief system in order to uphold your advocacy for strong pacifism.


However,when you do this you not only invalidate the New Testament that was built on the Old Testament,but you also corrupt the image of God,Jesus, who was everything you anf other strong pacifists oppose.

Therefore,you aren't defending the image of Jesus. You're promoting your own indifference to evil and offensive violence and defending your willingness to concede to its authority, while invoking the God you excised from his first testament,so to make him the antithesis of that God in the new testament myth you invent and prefer.

God does not change. He is the same yesterday,today,and forever.

Any text that calls that a lie is Satanic.
God is a war God. As he proved and avowed. Ignoring that is not of God.

 

[Gray_Joy]

The old testament is very relevant.........for instruction in righteousness and being richly laden with spiritual lessons which we need spiritual eyes to see and spiritual ears to hear and understand them.

You don't understand the Old Testament.
Otherwise,you wouldn't disparage it with vacant rhetoric.