Christian Nationalism

[Gray_Joy]

You don't have to be "passive". Ask God for help to start with.....and there are lots of wise things one may do in a situation without sinning........

Denying God's words isn't one of them.

Drafting false text and ideology that comports with a personal ideology of strong pacifism,isn't one of them.

What that is ,is interpolating scripture. And defending Isegesis.
All of which are grave sins.
Because they seek to override the history and teaching of the holy spirit.

It gives pleasure in the moment for disruptors to commit to such behavior.
But then they realize down the road. Those pesky Christians it was so much fun to mess with,weren't wrong.

use your imagination.

You and those like you do that far too often.

Some are even going so far as to side with and defend Muslim terrorists and terrorism.

They can't imagine how that looks when they claim to know Christ. Who the Muslim terrorists deny as Messiah. And whose faithful they happily slaughter while screaming,God is great!

Oh,but we're suppose to love them. And stand idle while they behead our baby in her crib and set her afire,as Hamas did in October 2023.

When we seek those mass murderers out and kill them, we're the evil ones.
Just like the terrorist defenders say of God. Which is why they insist,he didn't lead armies in the Old Testimony of his work to establish his kingdom on Earth.

No. We're just reading him in the wrong way when we read the words he inspired to be recorded.

Unless you are at rest in the Lord, in the spirit, then He may take over the situation for you or lead you in what to do.

He tells us what to do.
You deny not only that but you deny Jesus himself acted in anger. He was God on Earth. He cannot sin.Ever.
He whipped money changers and animals,and cleared his father's house of that evil.

That's what it means when the text tells us,Jesus went after! The money changers and animals.

Adam and Eve had sex in Eden. And produced offspring. The text doesn't say that. The writing style of the time said, Adam knew his wife!
Which meant,he made love to Eve.

Writing style. Jesus went after the money changers with a handmade whip!
He could have swatted at them with his hands and screamed,to be effective. But he didn't resort to just that.
He made a whip!

And being God is Jesus Christ, you also ,and others like you,deny the God led battles and wars in the Old Testament.
How do you exise the Old Testament? And then claim you all believe what God says in his word?

You don't!

The first born of every house in Egypt,and the first born of livestock,were killed by God's will when he sent his angel of death. Dead. Really,really,killed. By God's will.
He also drowned Pharaohs army later on in the Red Sea.

Save for 8 people,God drowned the world's people. And all animals,life,not brought into the Ark beforehand. Killed them.

God burned alive babies,children,women,men,in Sodom and Gomorrah.

After he saved the one family he chose because they were the only example there of righteous living!

And that was after Lot offered his virgin daughters to be gang raped by the men of Sodom!
Because those men demanded Lot release to them so to be raped, the two angels God sent to come and fetch the family.

That's Bible. God. All of it and far more.
But you and others like you dare,dare,to say, no. That's not actually true and as it happened!

God's word. Inspired word. History in scripture.

And you and others like you call it a lie. And dare to rewrite the truth into a narrative that couches pacifism and impotence,as your words prefer it understood!

That's some imagination you all have.

Jesus is alive, not dead.

Yes,we know that.

There are many testimonies. It sounds as though you have never experienced the Lord in this way.

As a simpering coward who lies in his inspired word,so to then lead pacifists to excuse his actual history and apologize for it?

Of course not.

That's the calling of you and others like you.

You all don't realize,or maybe you do,which would be worse because ignorance cannot then become the excuse, are repeatedly blaspheming the holy spirit.

That should tell the rest of us what you're about.

And to be very direct. This isn't about differences of opinion.

This is calling out what is an anti-Christ agenda.

One that can only assault in print on-line what is in print and the focus of this community. God's words to the world!


God's people be warned! We do not war against flesh and blood.

The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.

 

[Triumph1300]

So what is the Root of Our Nation?

Don't ask about the 'Root".
The root was based on wiping out aboriginals, bringing in slaves and getting rich.
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And getting rich is still your leader's goal, over the backs of others.
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MAGA Christianity is not driven by faith. It is driven by resentment.
The movement is defined not by love, forgiveness, or service to others, but by an unrelenting belief that they are the victims of an America that no longer belongs to them.

This grievance mindset has become the core of their identity, shaping every aspect of their toxic worldview.

 

[Ziggy]

Denying God's words isn't one of them.

Drafting false text and ideology that comports with a personal ideology of strong pacifism,isn't one of them.

What that is ,is interpolating scripture. And defending Isegesis.
All of which are grave sins.
Because they seek to override the history and teaching of the holy spirit.

It gives pleasure in the moment for disruptors to commit to such behavior.
But then they realize down the road. Those pesky Christians it was so much fun to mess with,weren't wrong.



You and those like you do that far too often.

Some are even going so far as to side with and defend Muslim terrorists and terrorism.

They can't imagine how that looks when they claim to know Christ. Who the Muslim terrorists deny as Messiah. And whose faithful they happily slaughter while screaming,God is great!

Oh,but we're suppose to love them. And stand idle while they behead our baby in her crib and set her afire,as Hamas did in October 2023.

When we seek those mass murderers out and kill them, we're the evil ones.
Just like the terrorist defenders say of God. Which is why they insist,he didn't lead armies in the Old Testimony of his work to establish his kingdom on Earth.

No. We're just reading him in the wrong way when we read the words he inspired to be recorded.



He tells us what to do.
You deny not only that but you deny Jesus himself acted in anger. He was God on Earth. He cannot sin.Ever.
He whipped money changers and animals,and cleared his father's house if that evil.

That's what it means when the text tells us,Jesus went after! The money changers and animals.

Adam and Eve had sex in Eden. And produced offspring. The text doesn't say that. The writing style of the time said, Adam knew his wife!
Which meant,he made love to Eve.

Writing style. Jesus went after the money changers with a handmade whip!
He could have swatted at them with his hands and screamed,to be effective. But he didn't resort to just that.
He made a whip!

And being God is Jesus Christ, you also ,and others like you,deny the God led battles and wars in the Old Testament.
How do you exise the Old Testament? And then claim you all believe what God says in his word?

You don't!

The first born of every house in Egypt,and the first born of livestock,were killed by God's will when he sent his angel of death. Dead. Really,really,killed. By God's will.
He also drowned Pharaohs army later on in the Red Sea.

Save for 8 people,God drowned the world's people. And all animals,life,not brought into the Ark beforehand. Killed them.

God burned alive babies,children,women,men,in Sodom and Gomorrah.

After he saved the one family he chose because they were the only example there of righteous living!

And that was after Lot offered his virgin daughters to be gang raped by the men of Sodom!
Because those men demanded Lot release to them so to be raped, the two angels God sent to come and fetch the family.

That's Bible. God. All of it and far more.
But you and others like you dare,dare,to say, no. That's not actually true and as it happened!

God's word. Inspired word. History in scripture.

And you and others like you call it a lie. And dare to rewrite the truth into a narrative that couches pacifism and impotence,as your words prefer it understood!

That's some imagination you all have.

Yes,we know that.



As a simpering coward who lies in his inspired word,so to then lead pacifists to excuse his actual history and apologize for it?

Of course not.

That's the calling of you and others like you.

You all don't realize,or maybe you do,which would be worse because ignorance cannot then become the excuse, are repeatedly blaspheming the holy spirit.

That should tell the rest of us what you're about.

And to be very direct. This isn't about differences of opinion.

This is calling out what is an anti-Christ agenda.

One that can only assault in print on-line what is in print and the focus of this community. God's words to the world!


God's people be warned! We do not war against flesh and blood.

The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever.

There it is

Hugs

 

[Justified]

People are aware. Whether you agree or not.

You certainly didn't seem aware, as you were asking pointless questions, hence the need to lay it out.

No one will ever reason with a strong pacifist.

No one will ever reason with anyone who holds a belief too strongly, such as believing God has commanded that believers can kill others for any reason they deem necessary.

They'll stand idle while an assailant.murfers their whole family before their eyes.

And it will be a "Christian Nationalist" doing it because they disagree with the other person's religious beliefs.

Until they're next.
No respect for the God given life of loved ones or themselves.

Likely,the reasoning is,it isn't a bad thing because they'll be in Heaven after.
They'll just have to explain why they,who God judges worse than an an unbeliever because they failed to protect their family, shall have to do explain how they got there.

Okay, if you say so.

And this is why you don't understand what is being discussed.

Why, because I said, "Neither is the claim that God has commanded believers to kill others"? Please don't be vague; it isn't conducive to productive discussion.

You deny God's word means what he says. That's unbiblical. And dangerous.

Those are serious claims and just as vague as the previous claim. Don't make such serious claims without stating explicitly what you're referring to and then providing biblical support.

That would be you. Interpolating scripture as a strong pacifist is in biblical.
You judge God. That's really dangerous.

This is getting ridiculous. I agreed with your statements:

"They perhaps don't realize true Christian Nationalism would mean America becomes a Christian Theocracy.

Which is never a good idea for any country whose people wish to remain free."

Why are you yet again making vague, serious claims, without providing any evidence, when I'm simply agreeing with you? Do you need me to layout the discussion again to ensure you're following along?

 

[Ziggy]

No one will ever reason with anyone who holds a belief too strongly, such as believing God has commanded that believers can kill others for any reason they deem necessary.

any reason they deem necessary?

no man.
I's not our rules, they are His rules.
You just don't listen.

 

[Justified]

any reason they deem necessary?

no man.
I's not our rules, they are His rules.
You just don't listen.

The point is, you're ignoring what God says. Don't you and @Wrangler believe in killing Muslims if they are persecuting you or other Christians?

 

[JimKnox]

The only one prospering is this guy:


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This post is a lie; therefore the one who posted it is.....

 

[Ziggy]

And it will be a "Christian Nationalist" doing it because they disagree with the other person's religious beliefs.

We won't kill them, we will try to convert them though.
Show them the Way they must go.
Because at the end of the day, there is only One Lord, One Faith, One God Almighty creator of heaven and earth, the Father of us all.
And hopefully those lost souls will come and find peace.
But if they have the intention of killing us,
then it becomes, eye for eye and tooth for tooth,
Because God will have no mercy on those who show no mercy.

And that mercy thing, it works both ways.
So if the intent is to steal, kill, and destroy, They will be met with God's Soldiers.

And they are even now,

I used to say commonsense has left the planet.
Finally it's coming back, slowly but surely.

 

[Ziggy]

The point is, you're ignoring what God says. Don't you and @Wrangler believe in killing Muslims if they are persecuting you or other Christians?

Islamic Radical Terrorists,
Absolutely

 

[JimKnox]

The idea of "Christian nationalism" being pushed by the government and in this thread is far from what you just listed. (Which I also agree with #1 & #2 ....yet, I am not a "Christian nationalist.")

We cannot change hearts by forcing people to obey a set of rules. That's why Jesus came ....to change hearts. We're not called to force people to follow "Christian rules." We're called to spread the Gospel and each person has a choice in how they respond. The reason this world is in the condition it's in is because the Church by and large has lost its way, its first love ...its fire and fervency for the Lord. Somehow, they think "fire and fervency" means an iron fist and hammer.

Scripture bears this out, y'all .... JUDGMENT BEGINS at the house of God!

Had you stopped at sentence #2 in this post, you would have been orthodox. But then you added flesh to it and landed in the ditch.

The reason this world is in a mess has NOTHING whatsoever to do with "the Church". Nothing. You are either intentionally, or ignorantly, ignoring the "god of this world".

Your allegations are unfounded.
You can't even produce documented examples of "fist and hammer". You are parroting leftist gaslighting, my friend.
Beware.

At least we have a little ground for agreement and that is cool.

 

[Justified]

Islamic Radical Terrorists,
Absolutely

There you go. You're the one ignoring what God says, "His rules."

 

[Ziggy]

There you go. You're the one ignoring what God says, "His rules."

Deu 20:4
For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.

We're not going in this alone, I assure you.

 

[Justified]

Deu 20:4
For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.

We're not going in this alone, I assure you.

So, as I have been saying all along, this is a perverse understanding Scripture, taking things out of context to fit your beliefs. Nowhere is it commanded for believers to fight against enemies who are persecuting them apart from spiritual battle through prayer. If you do go to literally, physically fight against your enemies who are persecuting you for your faith, God will not be with you. Stop abusing Scripture.

 

[Ziggy]

God is going to plant a seed in Canada.
Then what will you do?

He is planting seeds in London and all around the world.
And when we Rise you are either with God or against Him
And that is your choice.
Aways had a choice, always will,
Until there are no choices left.

You don't know what time it is.
Rev 16:15
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

 

[Justified]

God is going to plant a seed in Canada.
Then what will you do?

He is planting seeds in London and all around the world.
And when we Rise you are either with God or against Him
And that is your choice.
Aways had a choice, always will,
Until there are no choices left.

You don't know what time it is.
Rev 16:15
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

What seeds is God supposedly planting? I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not going to watch some tacky AI video to try and find out.

 

[Ziggy]

So, as I have been saying all along, this is a perverse understanding Scripture, taking things out of context to fit your beliefs. Nowhere is it commanded for believers to fight against enemies who are persecuting them apart from spiritual battle through prayer. If you do go to literally, physically fight against your enemies who are persecuting you for your faith, God will not be with you. Stop abusing Scripture.

You don't understand how the Battle is even being faught.
We don't need swords and guns.
We have God's messengers showing them the door.
Drink your milk, when you are ready to chew on something a little stronger,
we'll be waiting for you.
If not now, when?

 

[Ziggy]

What seeds is God supposedly planting? I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not going to watch some tacky AI video to try and find out.

I know, because you can't hear.

I can't fix that, only God can.

 

[Gray_Joy]

This speaks of those names in this thread too.

They call us..... Page after page.

We will forever stand our ground.
Against ALL enemies. Both foreign and domestic!

 

[Ziggy]

What is Faith if it is not put into Action?

 

[Justified]

You don't understand how the Battle is even being faught.
We don't need swords and guns.
We have God's messengers showing them the door.
Drink your milk, when you are ready to chew on something a little stronger,
we'll be waiting for you.
If not now, when?

So, basically, you haven't actually understood anything I have said. You're arguing just to argue.

I know, because you can't hear.

I can't fix that, only God can.

Please stop with the nonsense and discuss things like a normal person and just tell me what you're referring to by "planting seeds."