Christian Nationalism

[Bombastic]

there is trouble on the horizon.
Understand the pool was bait. and they took it.
Now comes accountability.
Hugs

I like how Judge Pirro established a standard for ruling. That standard is too much like work for most here. To exegete from the scriptural evidence, statutes, etc.

 

[Ziggy]

I like how Judge Pirro established a standard for ruling. That standard is too much like work for most here. To exegete from the scriptural evidence, statutes, etc.

I don't think it's work, I think it's more refection (no pun intended)
it's important to focus on the inner man, a strong spirit, all the fruits that come with that Spirit.
But if you don't have a physical body to house that Spirit in, then well, I guess the work is done.
But there are some that still have work to do and that is protecting those bodies that house that Spirit.
And that's what I think gets overlooked.
We don't have to live in a world of anarchy. We can live in a peaceful world.
It takes Spirit to do that. No Spirit gives you anarchy and destruction.
We're not up against people that have any belief or faith or love or mercy or kindness.
These aren't those kind of people.
And it would be very difficult if not impossible to try to live together in peace.
They dont want peace.
So I believe God will give them the war they so desire.
And it will be our Men and Women who are trained to uphold the Law that will be putting their lives on the line for us.
And if those Men and Women didn't care about us or our country, they wouldn't be willing to do the work that God calls them to do.

She looked tired. She has a stressful life. She sees and knows things we rather not know.
I wouldn't hesitate to do the things some people called to do. I'm just not physically able.
But my prayers are with them just the same.

She said, this is not just another 4th of July, and I believe we should listen a little closer.
Lot of things going on in the world, and on our doorstep in particular.
For God and Country.
Because they will try to take them both away.
And we won't allow it. Because Our Country we dedicated to God.
And what will be will be.
I trust God.
Hugs

 

[Wrangler]

there is trouble on the horizon.
Understand the pool was bait. and they took it.
Now comes accountability.
Hugs

Judge Jeanine Piro used the expression "sacred monuments." Those who aren't Christian Nationalists, don't understand that.

 

[Ziggy]

Judge Jeanine Piro used the expression "sacred monuments." Those who aren't Christian Nationalists, don't understand that.

They gave their lives so we could be free. They fought wars and battles.
We don't worship them but we won't forget them.
Landmarks where important history happened, so we won't forget who we are.
Just about everybody important in the Old Testament set up some form of remembrance.
Abram built an altar of stone and gave thanks. Israel placed 12 stones in a river each marked with their tribe name, to remember where they had come from, and how God was good to them to lead them somewhere else.
We have Headstones and Cemeteries for our loved ones. Because we don't want to forget.
Because once they take away any evidence of your past, they can rewrite history for the generations to come.
Then all you have left is, Grandpa, tell me bout the good ole days, and hopefully he will remember how it was.
We don't want to have to find out. We want to keep what we have.
And I believe it won't be lost.
Pray
Hugs

 

[Jericho]

I'm a Christian and a patriot, but I don't think of myself as a Christian nationalist. People use patriotism and nationalism interchangeably, but there is a difference. George Orwell actually said it best:

"Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved. By "patriotism" I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power.

The American Founders were also patriots, the term "nationalist" had not even been invented yet.

 

[Ziggy]

I'm a Christian and a patriot, but I don't think of myself as a Christian nationalist. People use patriotism and nationalism interchangeably, but there is a difference. George Orwell actually said it best:



The American Founders were also patriots, the term "nationalist" had not even been invented yet.

In the Pledge of Allegiance to the Republic, it goes on to say, one nation,
If I love my nation, then why am I not a nationalist?
In Germany under the Nationalists it was one nationality, they were Germans looking to have only Germans control the world.
In America we are many nationalities and yet we live in one nation.
How does that apply to us in America?
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[Jericho]

In the Pledge of Allegiance to the Republic, it goes on to say, one nation,
If I love my nation, then why am I not a nationalist?
In Germany under the Nationalists it was one nationality, they were Germans looking to have only Germans control the world.
In America we are many nationalities and yet we live in one nation.
How does that apply to us in America?
Hugs

Ziggy, the kind of ultranationalism that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan had was not healthy and led to bad outcomes. I just think patriotism is more fitting and avoids those negative connotations. But if you prefer to call yourself a nationalist, that's your choice.

 

[Ziggy]

Ziggy, the kind of ultranationalism that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan had was not healthy and led to bad outcomes. I just think patriotism is more fitting and avoids those negative connotations. But if you prefer to call yourself a nationalist, that's your choice.

I agree. I love God and Country. However one wants to categorize that it's up to them.
I am who I am.

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Trouble in DC
keep your eyes open and your head on a swivel.
God Bless our Men and Women in Uniform.
God Bless America.
I will be posting in the Christian Patriot Hangout today.
Trying to stay abreast of all that is happening.
The choice to witness the 250th Anniversary of Independence Day
and all that entails is put there for your viewing pleasure.

I got my popcorn and the Show is about to begin.
Let 1776 Commence
07
Hugs

 

[Wrangler]

Ziggy, the kind of ultranationalism that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan had was not healthy and led to bad outcomes. I just think patriotism is more fitting and avoids those negative connotations. But if you prefer to call yourself a nationalist, that's your choice.

Thank you for acknowledging people can make choices. Very good! Do you see the Strawman that you created? Since you cannot argue against nationalism, you invoke a supposedly unhealthy variant, “ultranationalism.” At the same time, you invoke Godwin’s law, supposing anyone who wants what’s best for their country is a Nazi.

Patriotism and nationalism are synonyms, which stand in opposition to the ideology in vogue today, globalism. As far as advising one term over the other to appease the politically correct Nazi’s - who are the real Nazi’s, by the way - no thank you.

We stand with God and on the principles of Liberty, unashamedly, knowing the State is the principle defender of the rights of the people, the citizens, therein. Amen and Amen. God bless you and God Bless America.

 

[Ziggy]

Thank you for acknowledging people can make choices. Very good! Do you see the Strawman that you created? Since you cannot argue against nationalism, you invoke a supposedly unhealthy variant, “ultranationalism.” At the same time, you invoke Godwin’s law, supposing anyone who wants what’s best for their country is a Nazi.

Patriotism and nationalism are synonyms, which stand in opposition to the ideology in vogue today, globalism. As far as advising one term over the other to appease the politically correct Nazi’s - who are the real Nazi’s, by the way - no thank you.

We stand with God and on the principles of Liberty, unashamedly, knowing the State is the principle defender of the rights of the people, the citizens, therein. Amen and Amen. God bless you and God Bless America.

Frankly I don't have time to argue.
I am witnessing the Greatest Celebration of Freedom the World has ever now.
I stand with God and Country.
One nation under God, indivisable, with Liberty and Justice for All

If others want to waste their breath and energy arguing over whatever I believe is true or not,
I'm not doing it.
I got better things to do

The last video I posted in CPH is the History of The Revolutionary War and the road to Independence.

Come join me

Hugs

 

[Jericho]

Do you see the Strawman that you created? Since you cannot argue against nationalism, you invoke a supposedly unhealthy variant, “ultranationalism.” At the same time, you invoke Godwin’s law, supposing anyone who wants what’s best for their country is a Nazi.

I wasn't trying to make an argument or imply everyone who calls themselves a nationalist is a Nazi. You should know by now which side of the political aisle I'm on. I was just pointing out there's a difference between patriotism and nationalism. The Founders never called themselves nationalists, it wasn't part of their vocabulary, but they did call themselves patriots. Nationalism didn't even really become part of the political vocabulary until the 20th century and mostly with fascism. That is usually what it is associated with today, like it or not.

 

[Ziggy]

I wasn't trying to make an argument or imply everyone who calls themselves a nationalist is a Nazi. You should know by now which side of the political aisle I'm on. I was just pointing out there's a difference between patriotism and nationalism. The Founders never called themselves nationalists, it wasn't part of their vocabulary, but they did call themselves patriots. Nationalism didn't even really become part of the political vocabulary until the 20th century and mostly with fascism. That is usually what it is associated with today, like it or not.

ok so this is what we have to deal with.

https://x.com/RickyDoggin/status/2072779884976546188/video/1

I don't know if you have an X account or not.
But there are a whole nationwide lot of people that don't like us.
And they're not bashful about saying what they want to do.
whatever the argument above is...
enjoy your day

 

[Wrangler]

Those opposed to Christian Nationalism and their claim that God is all about things NOT physical and NOT political are at odds with Luke 3. Excerpts:

1. Listed by name and area of political leaders of the day v1.
2. So important, it is put first in grappling with the soulful needs of the reader.
3. Wrath of God used to condemn political leaders and called them names that were not nice. v7
4. Responding to John’s preaching were tax collectors and soldiers; the only professions specifically called out were government agents. V 12-14
5. Confronted the king, getting John thrown in prison. V 19-20

How many religious leaders today are thrown into prison for calling out political leaders? Their silence is tacit approval of the evil done.

 

[Triumph1300]

By promoting policies and rhetoric that marginalize and discriminate against minority groups, angry fanatic Christian nationalists have betrayed the very essence of the faith they claim to defend.

Christian Nationalists policies need to go where is belongs....in the garbage can.

 

[David Lamb]

Those opposed to Christian Nationalism and their claim that God is all about things NOT physical and NOT political are at odds with Luke 3. Excerpts:

1. Listed by name and area of political leaders of the day v1.

Are they not listed by name to set the time that the things Luke is about to record happened? The names are listed, but not the politics of the people named.

1. So important, it is put first in grappling with the soulful needs of the reader.
2. Wrath of God used to condemn political leaders and called them names that were not nice. v7

Luke 3:7 says:

(Luk 3:7) Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Those words are spoken to the multitudes, not specifically to leaders, either political or religious.

1. Responding to John’s preaching were tax collectors and soldiers; the only professions specifically called out were government agents. V 12-14
2. Confronted the king, getting John thrown in prison. V 19-20

That wasn't politics. It was personal, because John had told Herod the Tetrarch that he was wrong to take his brother's wife.

How many religious leaders today are thrown into prison for calling out political leaders? Their silence is tacit approval of the evil done.

There are plenty of Christians (not just leaders) around the world who are thrown into prison or worse for no other reason than the fact that they are Christians.

 

[Wrangler]

their claim that God is all about things NOT physical and NOT political

1. Listed by name and area of political leaders of the day v1.

Are they not listed by name to set the time that the things Luke is about to record happened? The names are listed, but not the politics of the people named.

You seem to want to dismiss the WHAT for a WHY that you invent. The politics of the people ARE named in that these people are the political leaders of the areas! What are you talking about?

And the idea that one only lists political leaders as a means to establish time is dismissed in importance as it is placed first. Said differently, you cannot deny the importance God's word puts on political leadership as that is what is listed first. If that is how time is set, than God's word is relying on these soulful, physical, carnal, worldly men to set time.

 

[Wrangler]

condemn political leaders and called them names that were not nice. v7

Luke 3:7 says:

(Luk 3:7) Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Those words are spoken to the multitudes, not specifically to leaders, either political or religious.

Spoken to the masses, not not specifically to leaders, either political or religious? "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? What denial to claim this is NOT directed at political leaders. Outrageous. The Brood of vipers, in your reading are just the multitudes? Yea, right.

 

[Wrangler]

That wasn't politics. It was personal, because John had told Herod the Tetrarch that he was wrong to take his brother's wife.

Then your concept of politics is invalid. A political leader threw John in jail because John called him out. The political leader didn't throw John in jail in his personal capacity; he throw John in jail as a power he had as political leader.

 

[Wrangler]

How many religious leaders today are thrown into prison for calling out political leaders? Their silence is tacit approval of the evil done

There are plenty of Christians (not just leaders) around the world who are thrown into prison or worse for no other reason than the fact that they are Christians.

Not an answer to my question. And you making an Appeal to Diversion. We aren't talking about Christian persecution, in general, we are talking about the fact that Christian leaders in Biblical times called out political leaders.