christianity and marijuana?
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Why would a believer want or even need to use a mind altering substance?
Does it glorify God or is pleasuring the flesh?
Does it glorify God or is pleasuring the flesh?
Prentis
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I agree with what Jake says.
If we present ourselves to God as a living sacrifice, ready to do his good will and pleasure, why would we then turn and so such a thing?
There is life in Christ, energize, and we must walk according to that life, following him in all things and seeking his will in all things! :)
May the Lord bless you and open up his mysteries to you...
If we present ourselves to God as a living sacrifice, ready to do his good will and pleasure, why would we then turn and so such a thing?
There is life in Christ, energize, and we must walk according to that life, following him in all things and seeking his will in all things! :)
May the Lord bless you and open up his mysteries to you...
only if [ you] think it is.is eating pork a sin? to some, but to me, start the grill.
i felt the same way as long as it doesn't stray you away from God
and it is something fun to do it is not anymore dangerous than most everyday life
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
If mind altering drugs are a sin, we better stop using alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, supplements, and pharmaceutics.
Yes, I've heard this argument several times before, aspen, and I am not buying into it. I have seen teen-agers, as well as adults, use marijuana and they really act like a bunch of idiots.
It does nothing to glorify God and it's very disturbing to me that believers would support and advocate the use of illegal drugs.
Blessings to you.
It does nothing to glorify God and it's very disturbing to me that believers would support and advocate the use of illegal drugs.
Blessings to you.
Prentis
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I agree with Jake. It's a question sobriety. Peter tells us to be sober of mind.
This, you'll say, is not a direct advocation against these things. Agreed. But who can be sober in his mind, walk in the fear of the Lord, while being drunk or high?
Aspen, I am sure you will agree there is a difference between one glass of wine and drinking 10 bears. So there is between say a coffee, and marijuna. We must be sober and awake, ready to answer the call of the Lord, if we would call ourselves Christian!
This, you'll say, is not a direct advocation against these things. Agreed. But who can be sober in his mind, walk in the fear of the Lord, while being drunk or high?
Aspen, I am sure you will agree there is a difference between one glass of wine and drinking 10 bears. So there is between say a coffee, and marijuna. We must be sober and awake, ready to answer the call of the Lord, if we would call ourselves Christian!
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
I am not advocating anything. I am just pointing out the inconsistency of the argument. If you want to make sure pot is not legalized, say it - don't dramatize it by calling it a 'mind altering' as if it is LSD - call it what it is!
It is mind altering.
I don't want to make sure it stays illegal, either. I don't really care. It's just that it is illegal right now.
Just like drinking too much wine, smoking marijuana for no other reason than to satisfy the flesh, is not glorifying to God. Although there IS a reason God put it here, and if He intended it to be used as a natural medicine, then who are we to say someone can't use it for such, imo.
Robbie
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Laughing at Jake's ridiculous judgment about weed making people act like idiots... such a typical know it all about a subject when you really know nothing thing to say...
And as far as it being illegal... all you have to do in Cali to get a prescription is basically have a headache... haha... other than that it's about as illegal as j-walking...
Me personally... I don't really like it because it makes me feel paranoid... but that's me... to each their own...
And as far as it being illegal... all you have to do in Cali to get a prescription is basically have a headache... haha... other than that it's about as illegal as j-walking...
Me personally... I don't really like it because it makes me feel paranoid... but that's me... to each their own...
If it gets to the point where one is coveting it, thinking about it all the time it is. If you drink too much water you can die it doesn't make water a sin God should always be the most important influence in your life.
:lol:
Are you telling me the kids who are stoned out of their minds, coming to school, selling it in the hallway, with video cameras, who are arrested because of those video cameras are what? Geniuses?
:lol:
Give me a break!
Or a cousin of mine who was completely stoned out of his mind, was so paranoid one night, he started freaking out and jumped off a 2 story balcony because he thought someone was coming after him, broke a leg in the process.
In my book, that is idiotic behavior because of a mind altering drug.
Nice try though. ;)
Never heard of anybody do anything that stupid in my life worst thing I ever did was lock my keys in my car before going to a funny movie stoned out of my mind one night... It does affect everyone different I could lecture you guys about Neuroscience but I'll save it.
smoking any sort of poisonous toxin is a sin because it defiles the body that you, as a christian, should have dedicated to God.
2Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, since we have these promises, beloved ones, let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in God’s fear
Romans 12:1 Consequently I entreat YOU by the compassions of God, brothers, to present YOUR bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with YOUR power of reason. 2 And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Sacrifices given to God at the temple had to be pure and clean and disease free. They could not be offered with blemishes because God is worthy of having the very best. If christians are to give themselves over to God, they must give themselves as the very best they can be. Smokers are smelly and stained and will eventually end up with lung cancer or throat cancer or some other deadly disease.
do you think God would be happy to see you destroying the body and mind he gave you? I think not. Dont smoke anything...you are sinning against yourself and your God if you do so.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
I'm with Jake, Pegg, and Prentis on this. I've been around some guys in the Air Force working on airplanes that were doing that stuff, and I basically had to watch out for myself and them more, like I was having to babysit. Some soldiers were bringing that stuff back fromn Thailand where it was openly sold in markets. Whether it affects some more or different than others doesn't matter. In a work situation where there's a lot of ways to get hurt or killed, it definitely is a trust issue. If I have a choice whether I have to work a job with someone doing that stuff, I'd rather not be around them, and I don't care if they only get a little buzz from doing it. It's till a trust issue.
God's Word defines such practices as related to 'sorcery' (Greek for "sorcerers" in Rev.21:8 and 22:15 is 'pharmakeus', a druggist). The practice of sorcery is specifically about the using of drugs (potions) to produce altered states of the mind.
God's Word defines such practices as related to 'sorcery' (Greek for "sorcerers" in Rev.21:8 and 22:15 is 'pharmakeus', a druggist). The practice of sorcery is specifically about the using of drugs (potions) to produce altered states of the mind.
Jesus told us to obey the laws of the land and dope is illegal so don't do it. If it was legal I would say it isn't a sin jsut as drinking ithe odd pint of beer isn't a sin. Another thing of course is that it becomes simple when you ahve a dependancy on it. Many people say that pot is no-addictive but many do ahve dependancies on it. Then there is self harm. When you over indulge in drinking you dmage your brain and liver, when you over smoke you damage your lungs and when you over eat you endanger your heart. Pot is often smoke with tobacco so the smoker (toker) gets the negative effects of regualr smoking along with the min altering effects of the pot. Pot can damamge a person's brain quite a lot. Some people have had profound mental problems such as extreme paranoya. It happened to a young man that I knew as a teenager who smoked a lot of pot and went very strange. He kept shaking hands with people who weren't there and having conversations with them and laughing for no reason, so his parents had him sectioned under the mntal health act and he went to a psychiatric hospital and since he came out he was a very different person.
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Well Jake says it makes people act like idiots, Robbie laughs at that response, and then he says it makes him feel paranoid? Hmmm.... sogj's use of smiley's was hiliarious, by the way!!!!!
Titus 3:1 says obey magistrates. Paul also said it in another epistle when he said get along with everyone as best you can, and I suppose Jesus did to at some point... Despite what Robbie said (and it may be true about California), it is illegal. In other states and I imagine California as well, people go to jail for it.
Yet, I do agree with the point about it being mind altering, and then we have to look at other things like caffiene, aspirin, sleep medications, alcohol, cigs, etc....
However, it does alter the mind greatly. How do I know? Hey, I went to college! Most college know these things! :)
Here's what it comes down to and some have alluded to this in various ways. 1 Cor 6:12 says all things are lawful unto me, but not all things are expedient. All things are lawful for me but I will not be brought under the power of any. It's covered by grace (but only if you have faith, and you have to know what faith is, and how to get it), but it isn't a good idea and doesn't edify God at all.
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