Christianity is NOT Derived From Judaism

[Rhetro]

Which Judaism? There's more than one.

There's the one founded by the prophets in the Old Testament, which doesn't actually call itself by that name.

Then there's the one founded by the Pharisees in the 3rd-2nd century BC, which continues under that name to this day.

Christianity is derived from the former, and not the latter.

Christianity IS the religion of the Prophets. The Old Testament is the uncompromised property of Christ. Modern Rabbinic Judaism is the actual 'derivative', a post-Temple mutation that stripped away the priesthood and sacrifices, rewriting its traditions in the Talmud explicitly to oppose Christ. The Church is the exact same congregation (ekklesia) that marched through the wilderness with Moses. Abraham, David, and Isaiah all worshipped the pre-incarnate Logos. The voice that declared "I Am Who I Am" was the Logos(when Moses was at the burning bush), which is why Jesus shocked the Pharisees in John 8:58 by using the exact same divine name for Himself: "Before Abraham was, I AM."

The Jewish Talmud says that Christ is boiling in excrement in Hell. Gittin 57a: Onkelos then went and raised Yeshu from the grave through necromancy... He said to him: "What is the punishment of that man in the next world?" Yeshu said to him: "He is punished with boiling excrement."

I don't think @Wrangler even knows what the Jews believe. Either he is completely blind to what is in the Talmud, or Bibi gave him a quiet wire $transfer$ to keep his mouth shut.

 

[Lambano]

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Which Judaism? There's more than one.

There's the one founded by the prophets in the Old Testament, which doesn't actually call itself by that name.

Then there's the one founded by the Pharisees in the 3rd-2nd century BC, which continues under that name to this day.

Christianity is derived from the former, and not the latter.

Judaism’s history is commonly divided into major eras including the Biblical Period (c. 1800–586 BCE), the Second Temple Period (538 BCE–70 CE), the Rabbinic/Talmudic Period (70–600 CE), the Medieval Period (c. 600–1800 CE), the Early Modern/Emancipation Era (18th–19th centuries), and the Modern/Contemporary Era (20th century–present). These eras reflect shifts from ancient Israelite origins through exile, rabbinic development, medieval communities, emancipation, and the formation of modern Jewish life.

 

[Wick Stick]

Judaism’s history is commonly divided into major eras including the Biblical Period (c. 1800–586 BCE), the Second Temple Period (538 BCE–70 CE), the Rabbinic/Talmudic Period (70–600 CE), the Medieval Period (c. 600–1800 CE), the Early Modern/Emancipation Era (18th–19th centuries), and the Modern/Contemporary Era (20th century–present). These eras reflect shifts from ancient Israelite origins through exile, rabbinic development, medieval communities, emancipation, and the formation of modern Jewish life.

It needs a LOT more divisions.

For starters, the timeline of the northern kingdom is significantly different from the southern kingdom. I suppose only the southern kingdom is "Judaism," though.

The era of the patriarchs is much different from the time in "Egypt" is different from Moses era in the Wilderness is different from the era of the Judges, is different from the united kingdom under David is different from the divided kingdom after Solomon. That's just the "Biblical Period" above.

The history from the Babylonian captivity forward needs to be separated by places. It's very different in Babylon than it was in Judea, and Persia is different yet. Most of the prophets fall into this timeframe.

The era after the return from captivity marks a change. There was a major reform in Hosea's day and things changed again. The practice of writing histories was invented in this era and the literature changes drastically.

The Hasmonean era is another thing, again, and changes mid-dynasty with the conquest/conversion of the Edomites. Somewhere around that time, we have a major fragmentation among Jewish sects. That only gets us through the Second Temple Period.

edit: the most important of these differentiations is the one between the Northern & Southern kingdoms. Evidence shows that they weren't practicing the same "Judaism" at all

 

[Marvelloustime]

The harlot has seduced both sides . she is only keeping them pitted against one the other
so they cannot see they are both deceived and , oh yes and this is a massive huge AND
AND that both sides are also preaching the same false solution .
I have never had more sense of urgency that i do now .
WE have got to get far from anyone , no matter what side RCC or protesetant
Liberal or conservative , non political or political
ANYONE that is focused on world peace . DO IT NOW . NOW . once the delusion takes a man
HE NEVER comes b ack and will only be damned . GET THEM OUT now .
ITs peace IS OF ANTI CHRIST and nOT OF GOD .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

you ever heard of nimrod .
You messed all of this up wrangler .
And before i get accused of being anti semtic
HELLO I ALREADY KNOW SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS .
but not of man , not of the flesh . IT WAS OF GOD by JESUS CHRIST buddy .
YOU run to the jews as if SOMEHOW they GODS KIDS and salvation is of them .
As if being a jew is all that mattered . Like heck it is . JESUS called the jews who did not believe on him
as having one father . AND IT WAS NOT GOD . salvation didnt come of man , and it darn sure
did not come of the unbelieving jews . IT CAME FROM GOD BY JESUS CHRIST .
WAKE UP . SNAP OUT OF THIS delusion , OR WAIL and WAIL you will on JESUS day .
THE JEWS of today are not going to bring salvation on earth , NOR peace
NOR will the nar realm , nor will trump , nor will the liberal left , nor will their ecuemenical peace plan of ANTI CHRIST either .
ITS ALL a delusion . and its one i see you are beginning to be led right into it .
Salvation is of the JEWS , not because one is a jew , but because SALVATION was always OF JESUS CHRIST
who was , according to the flesh of that lineage of the jews . YOU SEEK THE PERSON , THE FLESH
BUT as for me I SEEK THE JESUS and POINT ONLY TO HIM . You will surely wail if you do not get off this path .
And wrangler , hard as this might seem for you to believe , ALL I EVER WANTED was THE GOOD of your welfare .
NOW get far and wide from anyone or anything connected to anyone or anything ecumeincal
inclusive interfaith , far f rom any who is trying to lead and guide us into WORLD peace . oR WAIL ON JESUS DAY .

@amigo de christo