Church councils?

[amigo de christo]

Ummmm, Enoch......The Church did 'clean up its act' AND mounted a counter-offensive against heretical teachings from people like Wycliffe. Are you not familiar with your own Christian history and The Council of Trent???????

Why should The Church bend to Wycliffe's demands? Why didn't he just leave The Church and start his own denomination instead of demanding that The Church change it's 1,500 year teaching to follow his teaching? Do you agree with and adher to the teachings of Wycliffe Enoch???

Catholics and non-Catholics are holding to false teachings, doctrines and practices according to who? YOU????

Who made you the arbitrator of truth?

Curious Mary

They hated wycliff , cause he did all he could to get the translation o the bible into the hands of the peoples .
If memory serves me , they even dug up his bones later , with such hatred against that man , EVEN THOUGH HE WAS already
dead and burned them . THE CC has desired one thing above all , POWER and CONTROL and she has grown RICH
off the backs of the people . AS have many false men within the protestant realm .
I come to expose every last one of them . Follow CHRIST . The popes decieved you all .
Peter would have rebuked er last one of them . So much for the popes following HIS example or CHRISTS .
Dressing up and having titles like MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND
Is not for man . THEY duped you all and now near the end of it all
The harlot has fast moved to unify all religoins , secular and all right under her
by preaching a false love and a false unity . It will be a cold day in the pits of hell before i call any man
most holy father or most holy reverand , let alone some of the others things that place has taught .

 

[Illuminator]

The Catholic denomination, which you refer to as "The Church", has had many, many problems throughout the years.

The CC does not fit the definition of "denomination", changing the meaning is dishonest. The CC is NOT a denomination. Your denomination, which you are afraid to name, did not exist when the historic institutional Church had to refute the Gnostics, Arians, Pelagians, Donatists, Albigensians and other heresies. This would have been impossible if the historic institutional Church was an invisible "remnant".

It is not "The Church" according to the Bible, as there is no mention of it in Scripture.

This LIE has been explained and exposed repeatedly, you just choose to ignore the facts. The Greek "kata holos" or whole world, translates to "Catholic" from the Greek to English, found in Romans 1:8 and in Acts, that you are forced to deny, or invent your own histories just like the SDA's do.

It was not the first church, which was composed solely of Jews.

Yes, the CC was the first Church, composed primarily of Jews and gentiles, (Acts 15) as affirmed by archeological evidence and truckloads of post-biblical documents, which you are forced to deny.

It has committed many, many atrocities throughout history, including mass murder.

This is hate speech because you provide "0" first and secondary documentation to support your slanderous false witness, which is a serious sin.

Its doctrine is full of non-Scriptural errors, including the offices of pope and cardinal, baptism of infants, and praying to Mary. And it depicts Jesus as still on the cross(!), thereby visually denying His resurrection.

This is the same garbage professed by atheists, skeptics, JW's, SDA's, Baptist Successionists, and long list of Modernist liberals that popped up in the 18th century, beginning with the proven liar Alexander Hislop (who taught that the cross is a satanic symbol).


Posting a list of 5 different off topic falsehoods proves you don't want to grant us the same right (that you give yourself) to explain and defend against your false witness. My guess is you have no church and no pastor because you are either too proud to submit to any authority other than borrowed opinions, or your opinions that you dogmatize contrary to facts.

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Rodney Stark is a reputable sociologist and not a Catholic, so you can't complain of doctrinal bias. Read a review of the book here.

 

[Marymog]

They hated wycliff , cause he did all he could to get the translation o the bible into the hands of the peoples .
If memory serves me , they even dug up his bones later , with such hatred against that man , EVEN THOUGH HE WAS already
dead and burned them . THE CC has desired one thing above all , POWER and CONTROL and she has grown RICH
off the backs of the people . AS have many false men within the protestant realm .
I come to expose every last one of them . Follow CHRIST . The popes decieved you all .
Peter would have rebuked er last one of them . So much for the popes following HIS example or CHRISTS .
Dressing up and having titles like MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND
Is not for man . THEY duped you all and now near the end of it all
The harlot has fast moved to unify all religoins , secular and all right under her
by preaching a false love and a false unity . It will be a cold day in the pits of hell before i call any man
most holy father or most holy reverand , let alone some of the others things that place has taught .

Lol....No, The Church didn't hate Wycliffe because he tried to get the bible into the hands of people. You should learn your own Christian history before commenting on it

 

[Marymog]

Yes indeed marymog , ponder on the things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm

Lol....i don't need to ponder your if YOU are teaching the Truth. I already know you are not.

 

[Illuminator]

They hated wycliff , cause he did all he could to get the translation o the bible into the hands of the peoples .

Nonsense. Wycliff's translation was edited by angry insults against all clergy, preached a real absence, opposing the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist; a doctrine believed by everyone everywhere that was unchallenged by anyone for 11 centuries. That alone made him a first class heretic. It's interesting that he dropped dead of a stroke while saying Mass. Plus, he imposed strict unrealistic poverty on his priests that no Protestant today would accept. "into the hands of the peoples" makes no sense, since most people couldn't read. The BIBLE was read out loud every day at every Mass, (and still is). You go from the sublime to the ridiculous.

If memory serves me , they even dug up his bones later , with such hatred against that man , EVEN THOUGH HE WAS already
dead and burned them .

Yes, they hated the social disruption caused by Wycliff's absurd edits to the Bible, and we make jokes about the weird things people did in the middle ages, that you refuse to grow out of.

THE CC has desired one thing above all , POWER and CONTROL and she has grown RICH
off the backs of the people .

"POWER and CONTROL and she has grown RICH off the backs of the people." is the mantra of atheistic communism.


and running third world hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, feeding, clothing, housing and educating the poor doesn't mean the CC is rich. It means you have been deceived. The CIA World Report on the Vatican's economy doesn't agree with your psychotic myth making.

AS have many false men within the protestant realm .
I come to expose every last one of them .

You expose yourself as a radical anti-Catholic asserting nonsense with no proof. Worse, you assign yourself the authority to judge everybody who disagrees with your opinions as "false men," Protestant or Catholic. You make yourself a pope in a church of one. Is it lonely at the top? Have you left every community you attended because the pastor doesn't like wasting his time arguing with you?

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Follow CHRIST . The popes decieved you all .
Peter would have rebuked er last one of them .

It is impossible for Peter to rebuke his own office. He would rebuke the behavior of a few sinful leaders, but they didn't teach anything. You consistently assert deceptions but fail to prove anything. It's the Pope's job to tell us to follow Christ, which he does constantly. You just deny, ignore or are totally ignorant of anything he says.




Amigo says these are all deceptions.

So much for the popes following HIS example or CHRISTS .
Dressing up and having titles like MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND
Is not for man . THEY duped you all and now near the end of it all
The harlot has fast moved to unify all religoins , secular and all right under her
by preaching a false love and a false unity . It will be a cold day in the pits of hell before i call any man
most holy father or most holy reverand , let alone some of the others things that place has taught .

What's the matter? You cant find "holy" or "father" in the Bible?? Your stupid conspiracy theories sound more and more like the Seventh Day Adventists, tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine. I'll take another guess as say you are anti-trinitarian, since you assume the "evil popes" just pulled the full Trinity doctrine out of their funny looking hats.

 

[Matthias]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644643080413356038

 

[Matthias]

The “father of Orthodoxy”. Interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1653329875883663361

 

[Matthias]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1670776166951579649

 

[Matthias]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680914253060898823

 

[Matthias]

https://x.com/historicalrook/status/1732732294769635573?s=61