Collapse of the twin towers in 2001. An engineering perspective

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@JimKnox

We all have our theory’s, since Official Reports “for the public” are Fantasy…. While the real Facts carry the Top Secret Stamp.

 

[JimKnox]

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That's ridiculous.

 

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That's ridiculous.

Sure. It doesn’t parallel with your theory.

My theory, did not dismiss effects of Jet fuel, did address another building, with some “unfavorable records for some politicians” blocks away.
And the “straight down fall” I found telling.

Maybe it is your theory that is ridiculous…
No one in the public has the true facts… and likely some involved ended up dead…

 

[CrowCross]

There may have been jets..and there may have been terrorist...but.....the 3 letter agencies paved the way then made sure they got the results they wanted...................WAR......................in the middle east...unstability.

Along with that they took away privacy....for our protection....and look where we're at now.

 

[CrowCross]

THERE WERE NO EXPLOSIVES. It was physics.

Why did the first responders report smelling plastic explosives?

Oh, where are the jet engines and fuselage components of the jet that struck the pentagon?

At first I thought like you...how could America be involved in such an event. No WAY!!!!!
But over the last 25 years....it's all come out.

 

[Rockerduck]

My perspective is this World belongs to God and has Sovereign control over His creation. This event is God's foreknowledge of the event that happened and a miracle we witnessed all over the World, that the buildings collapsed and caused wise men to be fools. for God makes fools of wise men and all those who do not know God. When there is no explanation, it is all God. Remember Luke 13:1-5

 

[Armour of God]

You don't have the evidence to support your nonsense either.
The following are FACTS:
Impact destroyed columns > fireproofing was stripped on impact > jet fuel and OFFICE FURNITURE,etc fires weakened steel trusses and other structural supports (fires burnt @ 1500-1800°) > trusses sagged > columns buckled > upper block lost support > progressive collapse straight down the load path via irresistible gravitational drop.

Once the first level dropped, the remaining levels could not resist the energy of the upper levels impact upon the lower level and it was a consecutive failure like dominoes.

THERE WERE NO EXPLOSIVES. It was physics.

It's true that the colums at the impact area could have been weakened and buckled causing those levels to drop.

But the columns on the levels below were not effected by any fire. They couldn't of just given way on their own creating an accelerated free fall. They must of provided resistance which would of caused the collapse to stop. At the very least there must of been a deceleration.

The only way a gravitational acceleration could occur is if those columns below were already sheared before the excessive load of the collapse reached them. That's the only way the physics of the collapse could happen.

You can slander us as much as you like but that's what, me, my classmates and engineering teachers concluded at the time when I was at university. We discussed it at length, did many calculations and were not influenced by media or politics.

Our findings were independent and purely based on engineering and physics

That isn't the only time a building has had a fire. There have been many fires in buildings all around the world. Some whole buildings have been engulfed by fire but not one of them collapsed in a gravitational accelerated free fall. Not one. Its impossible. It defies physics. It's contradictory to every building that's ever had a fire worldwide

 

[Wrangler]

The only way a gravitational acceleration could occur is if those columns below were already sheared before the excessive load of the collapse reached them.

I‘m afraid this point is way beyond the capacity of the target audience. That’s why I’m taking it one step at a time, starting with bolts aren’t holding up for floor or all melted due to jet fuel.

I think the concept of buckling also has to be presented step by step, starting with an impact at one end, won’t buckle all columns on a level simultaneously. I take it you know @JimKnox is not the target audience. Engaging him is fruitless.

 

[Debp]

I still say that unless people know exactly how the World Trade Center buildings were constructed, you are merely speculating about the collapse.

Since some of you doubted what Sabin Civil Engineering said in their videos, here is a different engineering company explaining the collapse.

 

[JimKnox]

Why did the first responders report smelling plastic explosives?

Oh, where are the jet engines and fuselage components of the jet that struck the pentagon?

At first I thought like you...how could America be involved in such an event. No WAY!!!!!
But over the last 25 years....it's all come out.

I don't know WHY but I do know they were mistaken.
Independent investigations have debunked such claims of "smelling explosives".

"It's all come out" is baseless malarkey.

 

[JimKnox]

I‘m afraid this point is way beyond the capacity of the target audience. That’s why I’m taking it one step at a time, starting with bolts aren’t holding up for floor or all melted due to jet fuel.

I think the concept of buckling also has to be presented step by step, starting with an impact at one end, won’t buckle all columns on a level simultaneously. I take it you know @JimKnox is not the target audience. Engaging him is fruitless.

Your slander is noted and discarded.
Be gone little one.

 

[Armour of God]

I still say that unless people know exactly how the World Trade Center buildings were constructed

We do. That information is easily obtained.

you are merely speculating about the collapse

Sorry, not were not. We used engineering principals, mathematics and physics to draw our conclusion. The whole class and several engineering teachers, without any media or political influence.

Since some of you doubted what Sabin Civil Engineering said in their videos, here is a different engineering company explaining the collapse.

Watched the video. It's a different explanation again to the shearing bolts theory. Their just clutching at straws trying to fool the average person.

They didn't explain how the colums below, which were unaffected by heat, could give way without any resistance, creating a free-fall.



Many buildings have been on fire. Some totally engulfed in flames. None have ever collapsed like that. Physics says it's impossible for it to fall with the acceleration of gravity unless columns were already sheared before the excessive load reached them.



This is what happens when a building collapses without a controlled demo. One sidegets damaged and it tips over. It does not fall straight down. It does not get pulverised to powder.



I've watched tons of videos. Many tell a different story. None of them make any engineering sense. Our conclusion was made 25 years ago and there is nothing that can change that.

I watched your videos. If you want to honest with yourself to be able to give a fair assessment then you should watch videos presenting the opposing arguments.



Watch this.
@Wrangler You might enjoy this video as well. It goes for an hour but it's very in depth

So many engineers have spoken out. This would not be the case if there was nothing fishy about it.

 

[Debp]

They didn't explain how the colums below, which were unaffected by heat, could give way without any resistance, creating a free-fall.

Did you see the Coke can example? As long as the Coke can was intact it could support the weight. But once the side was dented, the can quickly collapsed under the weight.

I understood the center girders/pillars weren't as strong. So when the outer side was crashed into, that created more weight and strain on the center, weaker girders/pillars.

 

[Armour of God]

Did you see the Coke can example? As long as the Coke can was intact it could support the weight. But once the side was dented, the can quickly collapsed under the weight.

I understood the center girders/pillars weren't as strong. So when the outer side was crashed into, that created more weight and strain on the center, weaker girders/pillars.

I didn't see a Coke can example but a Coke can is very weak. It's not built like a building it's only designed to hold liquid. It's not designed to support a large mass nor does it have interior colums. So it's not comparable. If you want to make a fair comparison then you must look at other building collapses.

But show me the Coke can example. I'm curious to see how it's gets crushed under its own weight like the towers did and I'm objective enough to hear both sides of the argument

Did you watch the video I posted?

 

[CrowCross]

I don't know WHY but I do know they were mistaken.
Independent investigations have debunked such claims of "smelling explosives".

"It's all come out" is baseless malarkey.

So you say.

There is a lot more than people smelling plastic explosive.

The owner of the 3 buildings just insured the buildings....and he was conveniently away for that day.

 

[Wrangler]

Watched the video. It's a different explanation again to the shearing bolts theory. Their just clutching at straws trying to fool the average person.

They didn't explain how the colums below, which were unaffected by heat, could give way without any resistance, creating a free-fall.

An internet trend, even on discussion forums: paste something in a fallacious Appeal to Authority, which implies … I can’t defend or explain the conclusion I have so go away with this other person’s testimony. Who are you to argue with the experts I present?! This is sad.

She can’t address our points. Just doubles down with another vid. Whoever has the most pasted vids wins, I guess.

 

[Wrangler]

Watch this.
@Wrangler You might enjoy this video as well. It goes for an hour but it's very in depth

Those who deny this was a controlled demolition remind me of the emperor's new clothes. IMO, it’s not the facts but the implication of just how powerful and evil the Deep State is, that terrifies them into denial.

Said differently, it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. I’ll enjoy watching the vid.

 

[CrowCross]

Those who deny this was a controlled demolition remind me of the emperor's new clothes. IMO, it’s not the facts but the implication of just how powerful and evil the Deep State is, that terrifies them into denial.

The "deep state" is controlled by those we are told to fight against...

Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

Said differently, it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. I’ll enjoy watching the vid.

It's also to the point that the "deep state" dreams us outlandish conspiracies attempting to throw people off of the true conspiracies.

 

[Wrangler]

It's also to the point that the "deep state" dreams us outlandish conspiracies attempting to throw people off of the true conspiracies

While it may be hard to detemine just how deep the rabbit hole goes, one must recognize the official narrative is seldom the truth.

I saw a Kermit the frog meme last summer that said, “I want to believe in aliens …. but the government said they’re real.” The coercive agents of the State earned our distrust from decades of duplicity.

 

[CrowCross]

While it may be hard to detemine just how deep the rabbit hole goes, one must recognize the official narrative is seldom the truth.

I saw a Kermit the frog meme last summer that said, “I want to believe in aliens …. but the government said they’re real.” The coercive agents of the State earned our distrust from decades of duplicity.

i agree.

Like with the covid jab...it's 98% effective....then they switched it to 92%...then in the 80% range...later lower it to the 60% range...and as time went on it kept dropping.

In fact they had to change the definition of "vaccine" to make the gene therapy mRNA jab to fit the category and call Ivermectin"horse paste" and claim it had no effect so they could get the emergency use mandate.

Now they're lying about the Iran war.