Conversation with An Atheist

[Mancunian]

You’re arguing against their answers to you.

I've not heard any answers to the particular question, apart from you saying that you think that you're going to be involved in government.... I then asked you what would that entail but got no response from you on that either.
I think that you have a problem admitting when you don't know something...
There's lots of things that all of us on the planet don't really know, like how life on this earth really began for example.
I've got no problem saying that I don't know, but luckily for me I'm not pinning my hopes on an eternal life, something that you can't even put into words even though that is your hope.

 

[RLT63]

No not at all, science offers the best explanation at the time and corrects itself by further enquiry. Early science got a lot of things wrong that it corrected later.

So science isn't an exact science

 

[Mancunian]

So science isn't an exact science

It's the best explanation we have for phenomena. It's the best way we have of treating and curing disease, it explains our surroundings, not just on earth but within our galaxy....
Science has enabled the world to move forward in many ways. Science challenges itself, it doesn't stand still and accept anything without verification.
A world without science would be like going back to the stone age.

 

[Matthias]

I've not heard any answers to the particular question, apart from you saying that you think that you're going to be involved in government.... I then asked you what would that entail but got no response from you on that either.
I think that you have a problem admitting when you don't know something...
There's lots of things that all of us on the planet don't really know, like how life on this earth really began for example.
I've got no problem saying that I don't know, but luckily for me I'm not pinning my hopes on an eternal life, something that you can't even put into words even though that is your hope.

After having read the Bible, do you really have no idea what God’s government does? How it functions? What its purpose is?

You’ve said very clearly that you aren’t here to learn. That being the case, why do you want / need me to explain it to you?

 

[Matthias]

I'm not interested in the Bible and what it has to say.

No interest = willful ignorance.

The wild card? You say that you’ve read the Bible and that you’re re-reading it.

Reading = acquisition of information.

What does that say about interest?

What does that say about motivation?

 

[Mancunian]

No interest = willful ignorance.

The wild card? You say that you’ve read the Bible and that you’re re-reading it.

Reading = acquisition of information.

What does that say about interest?

What does that say about motivation?

There you go again, quoting out of context. It's getting a little bit tedious now.
Please stop it.

 

[Mancunian]

After having read the Bible, do you really have no idea what God’s government does? How it functions? What its purpose is?

You’ve said very clearly that you aren’t here to learn. That being the case, why do you want / need me to explain it to you?

Because I want to know what you really think.

 

[Matthias]

There you go again, quoting out of context. It's getting a little bit tedious now.
Please stop it.

I combined your comments, verbatim, set them side by side - which I was trained by employer to do - and asked you a couple of questions, which you sidestepped.

That‘s a pattern.

 

[Matthias]

Because I want to know what you really think.

I’ve already told you what I really think. That aside, why do you want to know? What will you do with that information?

 

[Mancunian]

Is there any need for government in a perfect world?
A world with no greed jealousy, violence or hatred. No death or destruction.... Why would it need to be regulated?
Why still the need for hierarchy?

 

[Mancunian]

I’ve already told you what I really think. That aside, why do you want to know? What will you do with that information?

Store it.

 

[Matthias]

Store it.

For what purpose do you want to store what I think? And where will you store it?

 

[Mancunian]

For what purpose do you want to store what I think? And where will you store it?

Some of the information goes into files, some files are kept for future reference, some of the files go straight to the important filing cabinet.

 

[Matthias]

Some of the information goes into files, some files are kept for future reference, some of the files go straight to the important filing cabinet.

So you’re keeping files on me, or want to. Why?

 

[Mancunian]

Many ancient and organized religious traditions conceptualize the afterlife not as a formless void, but as an ordered realm with divine rulers, judges, and administrative structures.

Is this the type of thing that you're expecting?

 

[Matthias]

Many ancient and organized religious traditions conceptualize the afterlife not as a formless void, but as an ordered realm with divine rulers, judges, and administrative structures.

Is this the type of thing that you're expecting?

I’m expecting an atheist in Great Britain to continue dodging my questions and trying to provoke me.

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Why does a UK citizen with no interest in what the Bible says want to keep files on a US citizen who happens to be a retired pastor?

Is he planning on taking me to court? Having me arrested? Preventing me from entering the UK? Selling me a product? Selling my information to others?

 

[Mancunian]

In ancient Egypt the afterlife was deeply judicial and bureaucratic. Upon death, a soul faced psychostasis
(Weighing of the Heart) in the Hall of Ma'at, presided over by Osiris (lord and king of the dead), Anubis and a tribunal of 42 assessor gods. Pharaohs were viewed as divine continuations of earthly rule transitioning into cosmic kingship.

 

[Mancunian]

So you’re keeping files on me, or want to. Why?

I'm talking about my brain... You weren't seriously thinking that I'm keeping files lol.

 

[Matthias]

I'm talking about my brain... You weren't seriously thinking that I'm keeping files lol.

You said you are keeping files -> “Some of the information goes into files, some files are kept for future reference, some of the files go straight to the important filing cabinet.”

“Some of the information goes into files“ - in your brain?

”Some files are kept for future reference” - in your brain?

”Some of the files go straight to the important filing cabinet” - in your brain?

Okay. That answers what you’re doing. (Not that I’m buying it.) That leaves the question, why you are doing it?

 

[Mancunian]

You said you are keeping files -> “Some of the information goes into files, some files are kept for future reference, some of the files go straight to the important filing cabinet.”

“Some of the information goes into files“ - in your brain?

”Some files are kept for future reference” - in your brain?

”Some of the files go straight to the important filing cabinet” - in your brain?

Okay. That answers what you’re doing. (Not that I’m buying it.) That leaves the question, why you are doing it?

I'm doing it because I'm interested in what Christians really think, when I say I'm not interested in what the Bible says, that's a response to people who use the Bible to dodge questions by either quoting it or by saying that I should know because I've read it.
I've now asked all contributors to this thread for their views on what the afterlife has in-store for them.
The only person that has half answered is you....
The silence from everyone else is deafening.