Covenants

[101G]

That is a conditional covenant.

His salvation depends on an action by us.

yes, to believe, and recieve, oh how good the work is....... (smile).

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

That is a conditional covenant.

His salvation depends on an action by us.

= salvation by works.

 

[101G]

(Smile),
John 3:15 "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17 "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.



PICJAG.

 

[101G]

Romans 4:4 "Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Romans 4:5 "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 4:6 "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Romans 4:7 "[Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Romans 4:8 "Blessed [is] the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Romans 4:9 "[Cometh] this blessedness then upon the circumcision [only], or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

PICJAG

 

[CoreIssue]

= salvation by works.

Says the Calvinist

 

[Dave L]

Says the Calvinist

grace = God raises you from spiritual death so you can believe. Works = you are alive and well and choose God in self-righteousness because birds of a feather flock together.

 

[101G]

grace = God raises you from spiritual death so you can believe. Works = you are alive and well and choose God in self-righteousness because birds of a feather flock together.

DEAD men don't work.

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

DEAD men don't work.

PICJAG.

But you say you are not dead and choose God out of your self-righteousness.

 

[CoreIssue]

grace = God raises you from spiritual death so you can believe. Works = you are alive and well and choose God in self-righteousness because birds of a feather flock together.

The Bible has issues of grace that have nothing to do salvation.

 

[101G]

But you say you are not dead and choose God out of your self-righteousness.

If that’s the case then, God raises every every dead man so that can believe.

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

If that’s the case then, God raises every every dead man so that can believe.

PICJAG.

Not so, people hate God when they hear about him. They love idols instead.

 

[101G]

Not so, people hate God when they hear about him. They love idols instead.

error, spiritual teaching, to natural teaching, John 5:25 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

do you now understand the natural now? or do we need to explain it to you?.

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

error, spiritual teaching, to natural teaching, John 5:25 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

do you now understand the natural now? or do we need to explain it to you?.

PICJAG.

The AOG says you are a heretic so I don't trust you view on any scripture. Sorry but they agree with what I've been saying all along.

 

[101G]

The AOG says you are a heretic

I been called worest..... (smile).
put no trust in men, but in God only. 1 Thessalonians 2:3 "For our exhortation [was] not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:
1 Thessalonians 2:4 "But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.
1 Thessalonians 2:5 "For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloke of covetousness; God [is] witness:


1 Timothy 4:9 "This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
1 Timothy 4:10 "For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1 Timothy 4:11 "These things command and teach".

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

I been called worest..... (smile).
put no trust in men, but in God only. 1 Thessalonians 2:3 "For our exhortation [was] not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:
1 Thessalonians 2:4 "But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.
1 Thessalonians 2:5 "For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloke of covetousness; God [is] witness:


1 Timothy 4:9 "This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
1 Timothy 4:10 "For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1 Timothy 4:11 "These things command and teach".

PICJAG.

But you do not know what this means. Because you reject God and erect an idol in his place.

 

[101G]

(smile), you say,

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

(smile), you say,

PICJAG.

The AOG was right about you.

 

[101G]

(smile), they say? .........

PICJAG.

 

[Dave L]

(smile), they say? .........

PICJAG.

Try to convince the AOG.

 

[101G]

(smile), ok....

PICJAG.