crowned ?

[DPMartin]

in the case of the tabernacle when Moses was instructed to build, it only these things that where crowned: the ark of the covenant, the table, the altar to burn incense, and a holy crown upon the mitre.

why where they crowned at all? and why was the crown upon the miter designated by God as Holy and not the rest?

 

[Windmillcharge]

in the case of the tabernacle when Moses was instructed to build, it only these things that where crowned: the ark of the covenant, the table, the altar to burn incense, and a holy crown upon the mitre.

why where they crowned at all? and why was the crown upon the miter designated by God as Holy and not the rest?

It would help if you quoted the passage as I am not aware of any crown being put on any of these items.

 

[Harvest 1874]

"It is unfortunate that the KJV should have rendered the Hebrew word zer by the English word “crown” in Exod. 25:11, 25; 30:3, 4; 37:2, 11, 12, 26, 27. The word most certainly does not mean crown in the commonly accepted sense of that word. Rather, it signifies a bit of “ornamental molding” serving the purpose of circumscribing a specific area for a particular purpose.

There were but three pieces of furniture belonging to the ancient Tabernacle that had such “crowns.” These were the Ark of the Covenant (Exod. 25:11; 37:2), the Altar of Incense (Exod. 30:3, 4; 37:26, 27), and the Table of the Showbread (Exod. 25:24, 25; 37:11, 12).

The “crowns” were symbols of certain specific divine purposes, ordained for accomplishment at certain stages of the Church’s development. These purposes involve both time and place. The time features are suggested by the placement of the furnishings to which the “crowns” were attached.

The “crowns” on the Table of the Showbread and the Incense Altar represent certain divine purposes to be accomplished upon the Church while she is still in the “Holy” or spirit-begotten condition “this side the Vail.” Those on the Ark of the Covenant represent the divine purpose to be accomplished upon the Church in glory—the spirit-born condition “beyond the Vail.”

The fact that the Table of the Showbread was located directly opposite the Golden Candlestick, whereas the Incense Altar was farther on, just in front of the Vail, seems to imply that the Church as an antitypical priesthood, must first be “enlightened by the `Golden Candlestick’ (God’s Word) respecting spiritual things, `the deep things of God,’ ” and “refreshed and strengthened daily with the truth, as represented in the `showbread,’ lawful for only the Priests to eat (Matt. 12:4),” before it can offer sweet incense at the Golden Incense Altar.”

As a frame (or crown molding) sets apart and glorifies the picture within it, just so is the Church set apart, sanctified and glorified as the divine decrees and purposes are accomplished in and upon her.

The decrees or purposes of God, as suggested by these “crowns” are:

On the Table—that the Church not only “receive” the Word of Life, but that she also hold it forth to others.

On the Altar—that the Church within a specified time develop a crystallized character likeness unto Jesus. (Rom. 8:29)

On the Ark—that throughout all the ages of eternity, the Church shall “hold” Christ Jesus to be her “head.”

Although the Hebrew zer has in this connection been arbitrarily rendered “crowns,” the reference is in reality to something like a molding or framework. However, were we to retain the thought of “crowns” as such, we would suggest that they represented, for those who are striving for joint-heirship in the Kingdom, their hope of “glory, honor and immortality.” (Rom. 2:7)

As for your second question: why was the crown upon the miter designated by God as Holy and not the rest?

All the items pertaining to the Tabernacle were holy, some more so than others, as for the significance of the Golden Mitre worn upon the High Priests head and inscribed with the words “HOLINESS TO THE LORD” this proclaimed that: This High Priest (the anti-type) is entirely devoted to the accomplishment of Jehovah’s purposes. The golden crown also proclaimed his royalty: Christ is to be `a priest upon his throne’—`a priest forever after the order of Melchisedec.’— Zech. 6:13; Psa. 110:4; Heb. 7:17.” Excerpts taken form Brother Fray’s “Notes on the Tabernacle”

 

[Harvest 1874]

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Here we have a picture of the Table of Showbread, we're using this simply as an example to show what is being referred to as the "crown", as can be seen the crown is the ornamental molding which was placed around the table. The Table of Showbread was unique in that it had two of these crowns, viz.

"You shall also make a table of acacia wood; two cubits shall be its length, a cubit its width, and a cubit and a half its height. And you shall overlay it with pure gold, and make a molding of gold all around (the first crown). You shall make for it a frame of a hand-breadth all around, and you shall make a gold molding for the frame all around (the second crown)." Exod 25:23-25

 

[DPMartin]

"It is unfortunate that the KJV should have rendered the Hebrew word zer by the English word “crown” in Exod. 25:11, 25; 30:3, 4; 37:2, 11, 12, 26, 27. The word most certainly does not mean crown in the commonly accepted sense of that word. Rather, it signifies a bit of “ornamental molding” serving the purpose of circumscribing a specific area for a particular purpose.

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well if that was true, then why do the Hebrews translate the same to "crown" in the Stone's Edition and the Jewish Publication Society translations? how is it that you are more knowledgeable about it then these are?

 

[Harvest 1874]

well if that was true, then why do the Hebrews translate the same to "crown" in the Stone's Edition and the Jewish Publication Society translations? how is it that you are more knowledgeable about it then these are?

First of all I am not any more knowledgeable than the next man on this issue, but I am wise enough to take advantage of all the various “helps” (concordances, lexicons and other various bible study materials and etc.) the Lord has provided for his people in the study of his word. The Lord well knew that here at the end of the age that Greek and Hebrew would not be the predominant language spoken or read, and that few if any of his little ones among whom are not many great, nor wise, nor learned according to the course of this world would be educated in such languages and so he made provision for this through these various helps provided.

Now you will note that in the New Kings James Version they corrected the mistake changing it from the Original KJV “make thereto a crown of gold round about” to “make a molding of gold all around”, this in itself implies that upon further study on the matter, the Greek and Hebrew scholars who translated this newer translation realized that this was a more accurate translation of the text.

Out of 24 translations found on the Bible Hub website under parallel text it is translated variously as a “crown of gold ”, “gold molding”, “a border of gold”, “a golden ledge”, “a surrounding border of gold”, “gold molding around the edge”, “a molding of gold” these all carry the same meaning as we had suggested, viz. an “ornamental molding”.

One particular translation which is not found on the Bible Hub’s website is “The Emphasized Bible” (Rotherham’s Translation), this is one of the most accurate translations to be found, it translates it thus, “An thou shalt make thereto a boarder (margin or “ledge”) of a handbreadth round about, and shalt make a rim (margin or “crown”) of gold to the border thereof round about.”

Even here it is consider as a type of ornamentation which is placed around the boarder or edge of an object.

The Hebrew word is “zer” Strong’s # 2213: molding, circlet, border: From zarar (in the sense of scattering); a chaplet (as spread around the top), i.e. (specifically) a border molding -- crown.

What exactly is your point in all this, what are you looking for? What difference does it matter whether it was referred to as a crown molding, a gold molding, a surrounding border of gold or what have you?

 

[DPMartin]

First of all I am not any more knowledgeable than the next man on this issue, but I am wise enough to take advantage of all the various “helps” (concordances, lexicons and other various bible study materials and etc.) the Lord has provided for his people in the study of his word.

the serpent offered commentary on God's Word in the garden correct? just because its been published doesn't mean its true on the mark or even in the trust of the Truth of God.

and if you are wise enough as you say, then discernment maybe what you should use, rather than your perception of yourself that you are wise.

 

[Harvest 1874]

the serpent offered commentary on God's Word in the garden correct? just because its been published doesn't mean its true on the mark or even in the trust of the Truth of God.

and if you are wise enough as you say, then discernment maybe what you should use, rather than your perception of yourself that you are wise.

I made no pretense of being wise (according to this world) as you suggest, that’s your perception not mine. The best we can do as individuals is to follow the Lord’s admonishment to “try the spirits”; “prove all things” that is proving them to see if they are in agreement with the word of the Lord. “While prompt to acknowledge the channels and agencies honored by the Lord in bringing to our attention the things of his Word; let us never forget that the Word itself is the final arbiter.” The value of all other books, resources and etc., (viz. “helps”, concordances, lexicons and etc.) is in proportion to their fidelity to the teachings of the scriptures themselves.

“To the law and the testimony (the scriptures) if they speak not according to this word there is no light (truth) in them.” Isa 8:20

Every doctrine should, from the foundation up, step by step, be brought to the test of the Word and the testimony. All for which there cannot be found a "Thus saith the Lord" must be promptly rejected, and all to which his Word testifies as truth "held fast."

 

[DPMartin]

I made no pretense of being wise (according to this world) as you suggest, that’s your perception not mine. The best we can do as individuals is to follow the Lord’s admonishment to “try the spirits”; “prove all things” that is proving them to see if they are in agreement with the word of the Lord. “While prompt to acknowledge the channels and agencies honored by the Lord in bringing to our attention the things of his Word; let us never forget that the Word itself is the final arbiter.” The value of all other books, resources and etc., (viz. “helps”, concordances, lexicons and etc.) is in proportion to their fidelity to the teachings of the scriptures themselves.

“To the law and the testimony (the scriptures) if they speak not according to this word there is no light (truth) in them.” Isa 8:20

Every doctrine should, from the foundation up, step by step, be brought to the test of the Word and the testimony. All for which there cannot be found a "Thus saith the Lord" must be promptly rejected, and all to which his Word testifies as truth "held fast."

well just keep telling us about you, and how spirit lead Christian you are. as though that's supposed to be of interest to us. and again its very naïve to believe everything in print just because its published. so what really shows about your so called sense of wisdom is you post bogus info you read only because your wise enough to do so.

you do realize you are telling us (witnessing to us of yourself) how you are spirit lead yet it doesn't show, one should have discernment before on is accounted wise. but you account yourself as wise, without showing discernment.