Crusades Began with Reconquista

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Matthias

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What did you expect out of the people of the time? To convert to Islam?

That makes me wonder now about what you expect out of the people of Spurgeon’s time who sat under his preaching and pastoral care.

@Armour of God presumably expects them to convert to Islam. (That’s ignorance.) @Wrangler knows better than that. (Good on him.)

But you? There was no Ziglar. So now what?
 

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My favorite author was John Bunyan. Who also served in the English Army. I have read his entire library. I have not read much into the late 1800's evangelist such as Charles Spurgeon or DL Moody. I have read D.L. Moody went to London to meet Spurgeon, whom he had admired from a distance. However, when Spurgeon answered the door with a cigar in his mouth, Moody was in shock. “How could you, a man of God, smoke that?” protested the great American evangelist.

Spurgeon took the stogie out of his mouth
and walked down the steps to where Moody was still standing in bewilderment. Putting his finger on Moody’s rather rotund stomach, he smiled and said, “The same way you, a man of God, could be that fat!”

You can have all the Moody and Spurgeon to your bellies filling. I have little use for the guys.
 

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The apostles have a king. I have a king. No matter where I might live in the world, my allegiance is to that king.

“Nathaniel answered him, ‘Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel!’”

(John 1:49, NET)

No Muslim would say what Nathaniel said @Armour of God. Wouldn’t you agree?

I say what Nathaniel said. That’s what I believe. That’s what I teach. That’s what I preach. I’m willing to die for it. I’m not willing to kill Muslims for it. I’m not willing to kill you or anyone else for it.

Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, the Son of God, the king of Israel, is my king.

Does that make any difference to you?
 

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“As Francis Schaeffer used to say often, ‘We live before a watching world.’ It is incumbent, then, on us to remember that our behavior, our words, our manner of speech, and our attitudes of heart are always being judged by non-Christians. Unbelievers are drawing conclusions about Christ and about the truth of Christianity from everything we say and do.”

(Jerram Barrs, “Should All Believers Take Part in Evangelism?”)

 

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See again the teaching and practice of Messiah and the apostles.

Teachings such as defend against evil and to buy a sword.
In the end you can't change history, all you can do is cry about it. So wipe your Muslim symping, Christian hating tears because

VITÓRIA OS IBERIANS
VITÓRIA A RECONQUISTA
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In the end you can't change history, all you can do is cry about it.

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Early Church history. The early Christians followed the teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles regarding how to treat enemies. Their voices are raised against you in these volumes.

Jesus and the apostles taught the followers of Jesus to evangelize our enemies, not to kill them. Somewhere deep down inside, I think you know that.

You’re not defending Christianity. You’re defending Medieval Roman Catholicism.

I’m not defending Medieval Roman Catholicism. I’m defending primitive Christianity.

So wipe your Muslim symping, Christian hating tears

You hate Muslims. I don’t.

You hate some Christians. I don’t. Among other things, I’m a retired Christian pastor.
 
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So wipe your Muslim symping, Christian hating tears

“I wish that Christian men would insist more and more on the unrighteousness of war, believing that Christianity means no sword, no cannon, no bloodshed, and that, if a nation is driven to fight in its own defense, Christianity stands by to weep and to intervene as soon as possible, and not to join in the cruel shouts which celebrate an enemy’s slaughter.” - C.H. Spurgeon

Listen to his Christian preaching. Meditate on it. Allow it to change your heart.

I did. It did.

Be that kind of Christian. I am.
 

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Better to stink than be extinct.

Jesus and the apostles don’t want the followers of Jesus to stink. Those of us who follow their teaching and example, though we die - some of us at the hands of our enemies, as they did at the hands of theirs - will experience the life of the age to come with them.

Maranatha.
 

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“The greatest moments in history are not battles of conquerors, but the preaching of the gospel.” - C.H. Spurgeon