Decree & Declare is it Biblical?

[teamventure]

You see the practice of decree & declare in the NAR movement and in many neocharismatic churches but is it biblical.

Decree & Declare is an attempt at speaking something into existence by using your own authority, example, "I decree that I will be healed." Or "I decree that I will be wealthy."

The only scripture I have even seen used to support it is Genesis where mankind was created in God's image and since he spoke things into being so can we.
That's a huge stretch and is not even implied in Genesis.

Decree & Declare is unbiblical at best and sorcery at worst.

 

[Stumpmaster]

You see the practice of decree & declare in the NAR movement and in many neocharismatic churches but is it biblical.

Decree & Declare is an attempt at speaking something into existence by using your own authority, example, "I decree that I will be healed." Or "I decree that I will be wealthy."

The only scripture I have even seen used to support it is Genesis where mankind was created in God's image and since he spoke things into being so can we.
That's a huge stretch and is not even implied in Genesis.

Decree & Declare is unbiblical at best and sorcery at worst.

What about declaring the Scriptures?

 

[Gottservant]

I have a limited understanding of Decree & Declare. Basically you still need to repent (in part to avoid confirmation bias) and you still need to be righteous (decreeing &declaring that the job is done, doesn't mean you've done it) and the Devil roams about like a roaring lion, whether you confront or avoid or abandon his judgment (no matter how much you decree or declare). So that is sin, righteousness, judgment right there! Wouldn't the Holy Spirit's point be "get in the touch with the family, that you are destined for"?

If your spiritual family decrees & declares, I suppose that's what you do. All I have said here, is that there is no eternally defined reason for doing it. To be fair, I introduced the idea that "families" may want to do that (decree & declare), because when witnessing to the World, that is what I am looking for: people who want to be part of the Family of God. Would I decree & declare over someone who is coming to the Faith? There might be something to that: what do you think?

 

[teamventure]

No, I'm only referring to declaring ones own ideas. Scripture can be declared because it's already been declared in the book.

What about declaring the Scriptures?

 

[teamventure]

I could see room for declaring a blessing over your family, I need to learn more about it.

I have a limited understanding of Decree & Declare. Basically you still need to repent (in part to avoid confirmation bias) and you still need to be righteous (decreeing &declaring that the job is done, doesn't mean you've done it) and the Devil roams about like a roaring lion, whether you confront or avoid or abandon his judgment (no matter how much you decree or declare). So that is sin, righteousness, judgment right there! Wouldn't the Holy Spirit's point be "get in the touch with the family, that you are destined for"?

If your spiritual family decrees & declares, I suppose that's what you do. All I have said here, is that there is no eternally defined reason for doing it. To be fair, I introduced the idea that "families" may want to do that (decree & declare), because when witnessing to the World, that is what I am looking for: people who want to be part of the Family of God. Would I decree & declare over someone who is coming to the Faith? There might be something to that: what do you think?

 

[Stumpmaster]

I have a limited understanding of Decree & Declare. Basically you still need to repent (in part to avoid confirmation bias) and you still need to be righteous (decreeing &declaring that the job is done, doesn't mean you've done it) and the Devil roams about like a roaring lion, whether you confront or avoid or abandon his judgment (no matter how much you decree or declare). So that is sin, righteousness, judgment right there! Wouldn't the Holy Spirit's point be "get in the touch with the family, that you are destined for"?

If your spiritual family decrees & declares, I suppose that's what you do. All I have said here, is that there is no eternally defined reason for doing it. To be fair, I introduced the idea that "families" may want to do that (decree & declare), because when witnessing to the World, that is what I am looking for: people who want to be part of the Family of God. Would I decree & declare over someone who is coming to the Faith? There might be something to that: what do you think?

Check all this out:

1Ch 16:7 On that day David first delivered this psalm into the hand of Asaph and his brethren, to thank the LORD:​

1Ch 16:8-36 Oh, give thanks to the LORD! Call upon His name; Make known His deeds among the peoples! (9) Sing to Him, sing psalms to Him; Talk of all His wondrous works! (10) Glory in His holy name; Let the hearts of those rejoice who seek the LORD! (11) Seek the LORD and His strength; Seek His face evermore! (12) Remember His marvelous works which He has done, His wonders, and the judgments of His mouth, (13) O seed of Israel His servant, You children of Jacob, His chosen ones! (14) He is the LORD our God; His judgments are in all the earth. (15) Remember His covenant forever, The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations, (16) The covenant which He made with Abraham, And His oath to Isaac, (17) And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, To Israel for an everlasting covenant, (18) Saying, "To you I will give the land of Canaan As the allotment of your inheritance," (19) When you were few in number, Indeed very few, and strangers in it. (20) When they went from one nation to another, And from one kingdom to another people, (21) He permitted no man to do them wrong; Yes, He rebuked kings for their sakes, (22) Saying, "Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm." (23) Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. (24) Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples. (25) For the LORD is great and greatly to be praised; He is also to be feared above all gods. (26) For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the LORD made the heavens. (27) Honor and majesty are before Him; Strength and gladness are in His place. (28) Give to the LORD, O families of the peoples, Give to the LORD glory and strength. (29) Give to the LORD the glory due His name; Bring an offering, and come before Him. Oh, worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness! (30) Tremble before Him, all the earth. The world also is firmly established, It shall not be moved. (31) Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; And let them say among the nations, "The LORD reigns." (32) Let the sea roar, and all its fullness; Let the field rejoice, and all that is in it. (33) Then the trees of the woods shall rejoice before the LORD, For He is coming to judge the earth. (34) Oh, give thanks to the LORD, for He is good! For His mercy endures forever. (35) And say, "Save us, O God of our salvation; Gather us together, and deliver us from the Gentiles, To give thanks to Your holy name, To triumph in Your praise." (36) Blessed be the LORD God of Israel From everlasting to everlasting! And all the people said, "Amen!" and praised the LORD.

 

[teamventure]

Check all this out:

1Ch 16:7 On that day David first delivered this psalm into the hand of Asaph and his brethren, to thank the LORD:​

1Ch 16:8-36 Oh, give thanks to the LORD! Call upon His name; Make known His deeds among the peoples! (9) Sing to Him, sing psalms to Him; Talk of all His wondrous works! (10) Glory in His holy name; Let the hearts of those rejoice who seek the LORD! (11) Seek the LORD and His strength; Seek His face evermore! (12) Remember His marvelous works which He has done, His wonders, and the judgments of His mouth, (13) O seed of Israel His servant, You children of Jacob, His chosen ones! (14) He is the LORD our God; His judgments are in all the earth. (15) Remember His covenant forever, The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations, (16) The covenant which He made with Abraham, And His oath to Isaac, (17) And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute, To Israel for an everlasting covenant, (18) Saying, "To you I will give the land of Canaan As the allotment of your inheritance," (19) When you were few in number, Indeed very few, and strangers in it. (20) When they went from one nation to another, And from one kingdom to another people, (21) He permitted no man to do them wrong; Yes, He rebuked kings for their sakes, (22) Saying, "Do not touch My anointed ones, And do My prophets no harm." (23) Sing to the LORD, all the earth; Proclaim the good news of His salvation from day to day. (24) Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples. (25) For the LORD is great and greatly to be praised; He is also to be feared above all gods. (26) For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the LORD made the heavens. (27) Honor and majesty are before Him; Strength and gladness are in His place. (28) Give to the LORD, O families of the peoples, Give to the LORD glory and strength. (29) Give to the LORD the glory due His name; Bring an offering, and come before Him. Oh, worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness! (30) Tremble before Him, all the earth. The world also is firmly established, It shall not be moved. (31) Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; And let them say among the nations, "The LORD reigns." (32) Let the sea roar, and all its fullness; Let the field rejoice, and all that is in it. (33) Then the trees of the woods shall rejoice before the LORD, For He is coming to judge the earth. (34) Oh, give thanks to the LORD, for He is good! For His mercy endures forever. (35) And say, "Save us, O God of our salvation; Gather us together, and deliver us from the Gentiles, To give thanks to Your holy name, To triumph in Your praise." (36) Blessed be the LORD God of Israel From everlasting to everlasting! And all the people said, "Amen!" and praised the LORD.

Amen thank you Stumpmaster, we declare things about God that we know from scripture but we don't speak things into existence for ourselves.