Denying the Lord

[Wrangler]

The idea is Christians need to make up their minds that they will NOT be denying the Lord before they are ever in this situation.

When I read the OP, what came to mind is the first victim of what I believe was the Columbine school shooting. The murderer went up to a Christian girl and gave her that choice. I pray if I am faced with such a choice I am as brave as that female teenager to affirm my faith in Christ.

 

[RandyDawson]

i answered you . i said KJV and older ones like geneva .
just ignore all the footnotes in geneva

OK, good to know.

 

[RandyDawson]

When I read the OP, what came to mind is the first victim of what I believe was the Columbine school shooting. The murderer went up to a Christian girl and gave her that choice. I pray if I am faced with such a choice I am as brave as that female teenager to affirm my faith in Christ.

Why not make the decision now?
That way if faced with this situation you are already committed and ready to go be with the Lord.

In the hall of fame of faith in the Book of Hebrews were you aware that some actually rejected deliverance for they could go ahead and go home to be with the Lord, to that better resurrection?

Hebrews 11:35
Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection

 

[lforrest]

Why not make the decision now?
That way if faced with this situation you are already committed and ready to go be with the Lord.

In the hall of fame of faith in the Book of Hebrews were you aware that some actually rejected deliverance for they could go ahead and go home to be with the Lord, to that better resurrection?

Hebrews 11:35
Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection

Our mortal lives are part of the cost we are told to count in this scripture. Luke 14:28–33

It would be quite the shame to fall short at the every end.

 

[Wrangler]

Why not make the decision now?

How old did you say you were?

 

[RandyDawson]

Our mortal lives are part of the cost we are told to count in this scripture. Luke 14:28–33

It would be quite the shame to fall short at the every end.

Yes it would be a shame.

But a lot of people claim we can deny the Lord before men and still be saved.
They don't believe what Jesus said about that would cause Him to deny them before the Lord.

If Jesus denies someone before the Father, they are no longer in the book of life at that point.
Same goes with taking the mark of the beast.

 

[RandyDawson]

How old did you say you were?

What does that have to do with anything?

Either you are scared of dying or you're not.

If a person is scared of dying right now - they are not right with the Lord.
We should have peace in believing and the threat of immediate death should not be fearsome.

 

[lforrest]

Yes it would be a shame.

But a lot of people claim we can deny the Lord before men and still be saved.
They don't believe what Jesus said about that would cause Him to deny them before the Lord.

If Jesus denies someone before the Father, they are no longer in the book of life at that point.
Same goes with taking the mark of the beast.

I wouldn't go so far as to say a momentary act of cowardice condemns someone to hell. There is nothing that explicitly states as much concerning that sin, as all sins can be forgiven with two notable exceptions.

Though one may regret it the rest of their life and die anyways.

 

[Wrangler]

What does that have to do with anything?

Can’t answer the simplest question.

 

[marks]

Can’t answer the simplest question.

His profile says 56.

 

[marks]

What does that have to do with anything?

Wisdom often comes with age.

 

[RandyDawson]

I wouldn't go so far as to say a momentary act of cowardice condemns someone to hell. There is nothing that explicitly states as much concerning that sin, as all sins can be forgiven with two notable exceptions.

Though one may regret it the rest of their life and die anyways.

The fearful will have their part in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8)
I'd have to defer to this passage and see to it I'm not fearful. We do have a choice whether to be fearful or not.

2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind

Can’t answer the simplest question.

Because your question is not related to the topic at hand.
Feel free to try a question that is actually related to the discussion.

 

[amigo de christo]

Our mortal lives are part of the cost we are told to count in this scripture. Luke 14:28–33

It would be quite the shame to fall short at the every end.

speaking of a fall ...............
speaking of THE fall
i suggest and highly warn for none to enter the time of a harlots love .
All who so will fall and their end will be destruction .
No matter how well the devil can make a gift he brings seem to be for humanity ,
FRIEND its meant ONLY for their destruction . You can bank on that .
Yet many wanna chamber up with a harlot and her love . Aint gonna end well for such .

 

[amigo de christo]

Wisdom often comes with age.

Wisdom comes FROM GOD and GOD alone and in JESUS THE CHRIST is THE WISDOM of G OD .
I see a whole mess of hoary headed fellows and gals
with the wisdom of madness and all out reprobation mark .
The hoary head dont always come with wisdom . ONE would think it should
but this is not the case with many my friend .
IT JESUS TIME
and it BIBLE TIME in the building for to learn all ABOUT HIM .
Cause from the young to the old and the old to the young
I SEE Lots even in christendom now following another jesus . And have entered into
the time of LOVE . only its a harlots love .
THEY see it as a great big gift , an all inclusive love gift to the world and they THINK its of GOD .
Always remember no matter how great a gift satan brings to man and not matter HOW
good he makes it sound , ITS MEANT FOR ONE THING .
THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION . Wallow in the chambers of a harlot , AND DESTRUCTION shall be ones END .

 

[Hope2day4ever]

When someone puts a gun to your head and tells you to renounce the Lord Jesus Christ or they will blow your brains out, is it OK to go ahead and renounce the Lord in that moment to save your life?

The Lord did say if we deny the Lord before men He will deny us before the Father - Matthew 10:33
But so many today claim all out future sins are already forgiven so they would believe it's OK to deny the Lord if need be to save out own lives in such a moment. So who is correct? These people, or the Lord?

Matthew 16:25
he that seeks to save his life will lose it

It's time to start addressing this in western nations because before long the liberals will turn full blown communists and seek to murder Christians and Jews. It's coming here...just like we've seen for decades in undeveloped nations.

I had a gun to my face and was told to give the man money. I could not say nothing at all. After I pulled the paper money out I managed to ask, "do you want the change" Jesus Christ is Lord. And trust me God is with you when that happens. I know me and that particular time, God guarded my lips from getting myself into trouble. The man that took my place because I quit that job after that evening, was shot and killed within 2 months by the same man.
God is very good. I hope God knows I did not stop believing, I haven't stopped praying, I haven't stoped faith.
I just thought this would make it right going back but it made it worse. I agree with my husband, I can't fix this.
I repented for something in 2014 and I been cleansed of certain things however, not sure how to fix the rest of this

 

[amigo de christo]

What does that have to do with anything?

Either you are scared of dying or you're not.

If a person is scared of dying right now - they are not right with the Lord.
We should have peace in believing and the threat of immediate death should not be fearsome.

Wanna hear something that will make most folks think its pride yet its not pride .
Now watch closely .
So that we may BODLY SAY the LORD IS OUR HELPER and we shall not fear what man can do to us .
THEY often accuse us who warn and speak of consequences
as being afraid and f earful .
ITS THEY WHO FEAR when they hear such reminders .
Folks in this generation WANT NOTHING TO DO with having to suffer for JESUS at all .
THEY rather have the joel osteen best life now bull dung mindset and thus hope in men and who ever
can give them their best life NOW .
IF i was so afraid of all these ecueminacal inclusivains , WHO I KNOW
will soon buy the solution to rid the earth of MEN like me
I WOULD have long ago shut up and said nothing and went with their false flow .
SO allow a reminder please .
WHY FEAR DEATH , WHEN JESUS HIMSELF has told us HE who believes in me shall NEVER DIE .
Meaning we have eternal life . THE body can be killed and die , NOT THE SOUL .
I had rather live a life for JESUS and be hated and even persecuted and yes even killed
THAN TO LIVE a king in this dung hole ecumeincal inclusive world . and that A FACT .
WHY fear d eath . And also LET us remember what JESUS said
BLESSED are YOU when men shall revile you , and persecute you .
Not only are we appointed to BELIEVE ON HIM , but also to SUFFER for HIS NAME sake . THEY dont even know
what i am talking about my friend . Always this generation looks for what pleases the flesh
and the easy road in life . the broad path . the luxuries in life .
MY KINGDOM is not of this world and my hope is not in its men , its sold out poltiics or its ecumeicnal harlot
and her inclusive father satan . MY HOPE be IN GOD , THUS IN CHRIST
and oh yeah THERE BE A COST . they aint gonna love ya . And soon its not just going to be words
ITS GONNA BE LAWS against us who did not conform to their god and his ecumeincal harlot
and her anti christ peace plan . just wait and watch .

 

[amigo de christo]

I had a gun to my face and was told to give the man money. I could not say nothing at all. After I pulled the paper money out I managed to ask, "do you want the change" Jesus Christ is Lord. And trust me God is with you when that happens. I know me and that particular time, God guarded my lips from getting myself into trouble. The man that took my place because I quit that job after that evening, was shot and killed within 2 months by the same man.
God is very good. I hope God knows I did not stop believing, I haven't stopped praying, I haven't stoped faith.
I just thought this would make it right going back but it made it worse. I agree with my husband, I can't fix this.
I repented for something in 2014 and I been cleansed of certain things however, not sure how to fix the rest of this

the man didnt point the gun at you because YOU BELEIVED IN JESUS nor did he demand you to renounce him .
HE wanted your money . that is all .
And money aint worth dying for my friend . BUT JESUS IS WORTH LIVING and WORTH DYING FOR my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

I had a gun to my face and was told to give the man money. I could not say nothing at all. After I pulled the paper money out I managed to ask, "do you want the change" Jesus Christ is Lord. And trust me God is with you when that happens. I know me and that particular time, God guarded my lips from getting myself into trouble. The man that took my place because I quit that job after that evening, was shot and killed within 2 months by the same man.
God is very good. I hope God knows I did not stop believing, I haven't stopped praying, I haven't stoped faith.
I just thought this would make it right going back but it made it worse. I agree with my husband, I can't fix this.
I repented for something in 2014 and I been cleansed of certain things however, not sure how to fix the rest of this

There is something this generation needs to be reminded about my friend .
For years upon years we have seen relative peace as christains .
THAT ALL ABOUT TO CHANGE and real fast too .
Perseuctions wont just be heard about in far away lands by certain regimes .
WE GONNA FACE IT HEAD ON and SOON .
This all inclusive god who is satan has been real busy lying and sell his harlots love
to most of christendom and the false religoins for to merge them all as one for world peace .
And already in its peace it seen the TOTAL DENIAL of the one true gospel of JESUS
and a fat lie sold to all the false religoins as well as to christendom .
WELL I DONT gather with a harlot and i dont sit under an anti christ peace plan .
THESE KNEES bend TO GOD , TO CHRIST and not to anti christ .
SOON the inclusive law of the dark one will be enforced upon this entire world
by means of AN IMAGE SPEAKING led AI that controls the no buy no sell digital system .
And what can AI do . why it can route any conversetaion on phone
or computer or device , RIGHT TO A DATABASE
and right to the nearest police station . and later a knock knock upon thine chamber door ,
ONLY IT WONT be a raven a tapping and rapping on your chamber door .
THEY WILL be dressed in the black attire as the raven , but they gonna have bullhorns with a message
behind it saying COME ON OUT ye have been deemned a potential terroist .
NOW if this dont sound familiar . OPEN YOUR BIBLE to revelation and read the thirteenth chapter .
AND he had POWER to give LIFE unto the image so that the image could SPEAK
and cause that all who would not worship the image to be killed .
And he causes all both small and great , rich and poor , free and bond
to receive a mark , that no man might BUY OR SELL save he that had the mark . OH ITS HERE sister . ITS HERE .
and WILL BE SOON enforced . we got lied to by many .

 

[amigo de christo]

The fearful will have their part in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8)
I'd have to defer to this passage and see to it I'm not fearful. We do have a choice whether to be fearful or not.

2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind




Because your question is not related to the topic at hand.
Feel free to try a question that is actually related to the discussion.

in a day and at an hour , NOT TOO FAR IN the future ..........
a man was busy typing on his computer to some on a web site .
He was reminding them all about the DIRE NECESSITY to HAVE to BELIEVE ON JESUS
and that all other religoins cannot save one .
He left the site and went to fix some dinner .
About two hour later he hears a rapping and a tapping on his chamber door .
Only to open it and see men in black with a bull horn saying
COME ON OUT , you have been identified as a potential terroist speaking hate speech .
We are here to detain you and take you to a camp where you will be held
WITHOUT TRIAL till it can be determined if you are a threat . AND YOO HOO
no one gets out of that camp alive . AI buddy . AI . its gonna enforce the law of the beast
the law of the all inclusive god upon this entire world . And i just dont know how much time
we got left TILL it DOES become law . and the ecumeincal phase becomes the CRUSADES . OH BUT ITS A CoMING .
fear it not . fear it not . Better to suffer and die for JESUs than to live for a harlot . cause on JESUS
day their end is NOT GOOD . our end IS GOOD , thanks to JESUS .

 

[Hope2day4ever]

There is something this generation needs to be reminded about my friend .
For years upon years we have seen relative peace as christains .
THAT ALL ABOUT TO CHANGE and real fast too .
Perseuctions wont just be heard about in far away lands by certain regimes .
WE GONNA FACE IT HEAD ON and SOON .
This all inclusive god who is satan has been real busy lying and sell his harlots love
to most of christendom and the false religoins for to merge them all as one for world peace .
And already in its peace it seen the TOTAL DENIAL of the one true gospel of JESUS
and a fat lie sold to all the false religoins as well as to christendom .
WELL I DONT gather with a harlot and i dont sit under an anti christ peace plan .
THESE KNEES bend TO GOD , TO CHRIST and not to anti christ .
SOON the inclusive law of the dark one will be enforced upon this entire world
by means of AN IMAGE SPEAKING led AI that controls the no buy no sell digital system .
And what can AI do . why it can route any conversetaion on phone
or computer or device , RIGHT TO A DATABASE
and right to the nearest police station . and later a knock knock upon thine chamber door ,
ONLY IT WONT be a raven a tapping and rapping on your chamber door .
THEY WILL be dressed in the black attire as the raven , but they gonna have bullhorns with a message
behind it saying COME ON OUT ye have been deemned a potential terroist .
NOW if this dont sound familiar . OPEN YOUR BIBLE to revelation and read the thirteenth chapter .
AND he had POWER to give LIFE unto the image so that the image could SPEAK
and cause that all who would not worship the image to be killed .
And he causes all both small and great , rich and poor , free and bond
to receive a mark , that no man might BUY OR SELL save he that had the mark . OH ITS HERE sister . ITS HERE .
and WILL BE SOON enforced . we got lied to by many .

Those who know the Gospel of Jesus Christ had better start telling others. I am currently in a place where I questioned about 25 people and only 2 or 3 knew the significance of why we go to church on Easter Sunday! I knew a woman from a church and she always wore a shirt with reference to Jesus. I asked her one day if she knew what the signifigance was thinking she would know because of wearing the shirt. The answer was, "because we are supposed to go, I said yes, but why are we supposed to go, It was sad, she didn't know. But it gave me to bring God glory and share the Gospel with her.
I have only seen her once since that day. She is a very sweet woman. I just hope she didn't get embarassed or offended. because she did not know. That is never the intention, but to get the Gospel out there in our own country.