Is trying to save 'everyone' working, or do we need to start praying "save the nations, Lord!"? (discerning?)

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Gottservant

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Hi there,

So clearly we need to pray "Lord be willing to save" and we need to pray "Lord of the Harvest, send workers!", but what about the idea that Salvation is for 'everyone'? Jesus said "I have kept every one but the son of perdition" - doesn't that suggest that sweeping attempts at harvesting souls, is not what God had in mind?

I think the answer, is that the Holy Spirit will stand for the Governments of the nations. He - the Holy Spirit - will be an example to the nations. In other words, our prayers will be more effective, if we humble ourselves a little and say "Lord, if you are willing: who of the nations, do you want saved?". No one will hear the call of God, if we don't identify that God knows who they specifically are (that God knows the nation their heart was formed for). If we have a burden for the nations, we are saying "I agree with God, that it is the nations specifically, that need to be saved first".

To be fair, I am looking at this from an Australian perspective - nations are very dear to us; but I am also aware that the Holy Spirit, when He comes, will come to Australia (that's prophecy - the 'Land without bars') - Lord willing. But I am also aware, that other nations can learn from Australia's inclusive spirit. I'm not saying you are wrong, if you think you can save 'everyone', but ask yourself this "why does the Bible say 'let every man be a liar, but God be true'?" - is it because God personally wants to save everyone? Or is it because God wants to make Salvation appealing to everyone, but specifically unmistakeable to those who are called?

Imagine if we did 'save everyone', would God stop talking to us? Would He expect us to have faith from then on?

I think what I have done here is try to point out, that the Devil can easily undermine us, if we are trying to do everything (note the difference between 'everything' and 'everyone', they are a lot closer than you might think!).

God bless.