DeSantis signs law ensuring that students can pray before sporting events

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TinMan

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Can't read can you? You have a list of the culprits ....most likely on your tax return under donations.....

You have a hard time reading .....The Desantis Bill specifically says "CAN" Pray ........no where does it tell anyone they have to pray ......but it gives you something to gripe about ...
They always could pray.
 
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In Engel v. Vitale, (1962), the Supreme Court ruled that school-sponsored prayer in public schools violated the establishment clause of the First Amendment.

You have a hard time with short term memory loss don't you?

1962, typical start of the day in each class in most of American. Stand, Pledge Allegience to the Flag ......say a word of prayer led by the Office on the PA System or by the teacher .

The decision was reached that the leadership of the prayer and the requirement to stand made it a government controlled event ....

This new decision states that the Coach could pray on his own in silence at the middle of the field and no one can touch him ...The School Board decided they could stop him because it irriated them. ...But you and the Canadian felt that was not Constitutional .......It was exactly Constitutional because the government made no law ....

Now you have hissy fits because DeSantis declares that the state and the school cannot stop the students from praying before or after an athletic event. DeSantis and the State Legislature declares it is illegal for the School Boards to dictate that the students cannot pray on their own .......Wrong .....you are both ignoring Constitutional law and inserting your fascism into the equation. You have no control and can't stand the thought .

You made one point correct ........They could pray all along. Now when they gather voluntarily.........you can't stop them and it irriates you both .......Good.
 

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In Engel v. Vitale, (1962), the Supreme Court ruled that school-sponsored prayer in public schools violated the establishment clause of the First Amendment.

You have a hard time with short term memory loss don't you?

1962, typical start of the day in each class in most of American. Stand, Pledge Allegience to the Flag ......say a word of prayer led by the Office on the PA System or by the teacher .

The decision was reached that the leadership of the prayer and the requirement to stand made it a government controlled event ....
Actually it was indoctrination.
This new decision states that the Coach could pray on his own in silence at the middle of the field and no one can touch him ...The School Board decided they could stop him because it irriated them. ...But you and the Canadian felt that was not Constitutional .......It was exactly Constitutional because the government made no law ....

Now you have hissy fits because DeSantis declares that the state and the school cannot stop the students from praying before or after an athletic event.
No one was stopping them.


DeSantis and the State Legislature declares it is illegal for the School Boards to dictate that the students cannot pray on their own .......

No school board was doing anything of the sort
Wrong .....you are both ignoring Constitutional law and inserting your fascism into the equation. You have no control and can't stand the thought .

You made one point correct ........They could pray all along. Now when they gather voluntarily.........you can't stop them and it irriates you both .......Good.
Why would it irritate me?
 

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"No school board was doing anything of the sort"

The School Board was doing exactly that. Initially he was told they had no problem with him praying alone. Then it was .....students are joining you that is against OUR policy. Then it was you cannot pray alone after the game ......followed by You are fired. ....

This is what happens when you don't or can't read ...I lean to Too lazy to follow through ....

You haven't read the court ruling in either case .....Just post trash .....

Troll ......well defined ...
 
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"No school board was doing anything of the sort"

The School Board was doing exactly that. Initially he was told they had no problem with him praying alone. Then it was .....students are joining you that is against OUR policy. Then it was you cannot pray alone after the game ......followed by You are fired. ....

This is what happens when you don't or can't read ...I lean to Too lazy to follow through ....

You haven't read the court ruling in either case .....Just post trash .....

Troll ......well defined ...
Was the school board preventing students from praying? No.
Was anyone? No.
 

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What petty local tyrants were stopping the kids?

The local tyrants.... are those who believe that if 98 on the football team are Christian, and 1 is a muslim.. .the 98 should be "prayer gagged" so that they don't offend the religious "rights" of the muslim.
Sure they can pray by themselves... but lets not do that on the sideline., in front of the Crowd.... in front of the muslim.

You know....

Redefine the family as 2 gay men and a helpless baby, because most of the Country is offended.

Its all about offending God's morality using the legal system, under the guise of "rights".

The backlash that is going to happen in the USA against this stuff, is going to be EPIC, and that is even before Jesus comes back to make some righteous changes to that unholy mess.
 
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The local tyrants.... are those who believe that if 98 on the football team are Christian, and 1 is a muslim.. .the 98 should be "prayer gagged" so that they don't offend the religious "rights" of the muslim.
Sure they can pray by themselves... but lets not do that on the sideline., in front of the Crowd.... in front of the muslim.
“When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.” Matt 6:5-8
 

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Was the school board preventing students from praying? No.
Was anyone? No.

Yes they were .....The School Board changed the rules constantly to finally fire the coach because they disagreed with his praying alone or not .....

It's that simple ...And SCOTUS told the school board and you liberals ....You are out of your mind. Try reading the Constitution .......Too bad you didn't earn how to use common sense in school. They didn't teach that class .....where you went ....
 

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“When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.” Matt 6:5-8

Was he praying out loud like you would hypocrite? Understand the verse and the content before shouting from the basement ...
 

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Yes they were .....The School Board changed the rules constantly to finally fire the coach because they disagreed with his praying alone or not .....

But no students were being prevented or forbidden from praying.

It's that simple ...And SCOTUS told the school board and you liberals ....You are out of your mind. Try reading the Constitution .......Too bad you didn't earn how to use common sense in school. They didn't teach that class .....where you went ....
Were students being prevented from or forbidden to pray? No.
 

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Well, I think the U.S. has gone down the toilet with the massive celebration of homosexual lifestyles and men and women that cross-dress.