Did Jesus remove all the sin from the world?

[Lizbeth]

Kind of like an underlying subconscious speaking to Saul?

That’s an interesting way to see it.

No I believe it was Jesus speaking to him, not his own mind. I just meant not literal in the sense that Paul wasn't literally persecuting Jesus, but the church.

My brother told me yesterday that he believes there is a part of God in everyone and I think you and him might have a point. I agree with him on that notion too though cause all of us have a God-given soul.

God made man in His image so we should have respect for that and remember it in the way we treat our fellow man. He gave us all a human spirit that came from Him. (He gave it and He can take it away.) But that is not the same thing as having the Holy Spirit/spirit of Christ.

 

[rodm777]

On the surface the answer would be yes.

The meaning of the word "World" would be of interest.

Also If I just go by the scriptures (without an interpretation) Sin and the salvation that God gives, is first addressed by God in the very beginning, when God writes certain names into the book of life.

This list of names is then given to Jesus, He calls them "His own" and commits that He will not lose even one.

Then the Holy Spirit "convinces" that person, in that persons appointed time, to believe upon Jesus, and they become born again.

 

[Jay Ross]

I have no idea why this thread keeps rumbling along. Jesus did not stop sin from occurring in this world, but His actions on the cross certainly provides the covering needed for when we are judged if we chose to embrace His Love for us.

 

[MatthewG]

It may come across as indifferent to say "I don't care," but there are certain situations where I genuinely don’t concern myself with others’ opinions on specific matters. This isn’t a reflection of apathy or a lack of compassion—there are many who likely feel the same way.

My perspective stems not from a disregard for others, but from a place of love, hope, and prayer. I wish the best for people and hold no ill will toward anyone.

What I do reject is the desire to control others. That is a dangerous path, and I firmly believe in allowing people the freedom to seek understanding on their own. I encourage others to read the Bible for themselves and explore what it says with open hearts.

Unfortunately, there are individuals who feel compelled to enforce strict doctrinal alignment, insisting that anyone who differs from their interpretation isn’t truly a Christian. But they are not the ones who judge.

Yahavah God alone is the judge.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, it agrees and harmonizes with other scriptures. But I believe some of those are in a manner of speaking as well (or perhaps we could say hyperbole).....I don;t take "Saul Saul why do you persecute me? " as being literal either...but that it is in a spiritual sense of Christ identifying with His body.

For what they did unto the least of these , they did unto ME .
He who recieves not you recieves not me and He who recieves not me recieves not Him that sent ME .
yes indeed dear sister .
For why did they persecute and why did they hate the brethren .
IT was what made us different . And who made us different .
God did . We were all once of the world and when i was it loved me .
But when the glorious grace of GOD did appear
and reveal Christ Jesus unto me
The world no longer sees that old man at work running the show they also so love .
The Spirit of GOD surely do change the heart .

 

[Lizbeth]

It may come across as indifferent to say "I don't care," but there are certain situations where I genuinely don’t concern myself with others’ opinions on specific matters. This isn’t a reflection of apathy or a lack of compassion—there are many who likely feel the same way.

My perspective stems not from a disregard for others, but from a place of love, hope, and prayer. I wish the best for people and hold no ill will toward anyone.

What I do reject is the desire to control others. That is a dangerous path, and I firmly believe in allowing people the freedom to seek understanding on their own. I encourage others to read the Bible for themselves and explore what it says with open hearts.

Unfortunately, there are individuals who feel compelled to enforce strict doctrinal alignment, insisting that anyone who differs from their interpretation isn’t truly a Christian. But they are not the ones who judge.

Yahavah God alone is the judge.

There is always a fine line and the flesh should be kept out of it. But false gospels and false christs are dangerous too. Those who are graced with the task will be found being on guard for the church and contending for the faith once delivered. That's what we see Paul doing in so many places, and he was opposed for his efforts as well. We just read what he wrote and don't take offence because he is not actually with us and we often don't apply what he wrote to ourselves. It's like the religious leaders of Jesus' day who built lovely sepulchers for the prophets to honour them only because they weren't in their faces any longer.

2Ti 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

This is a very thin-skinned generation that has been brought up in the church with seeker-friendly, people-pleasing, soft ear tickling messages, who take offence way too easily.

 

[MatthewG]

There is always a fine line and the flesh should be kept out of it. But false gospels and false christs are dangerous too. Those who are graced with the task will be found being on guard for the church and contending for the faith once delivered. That's what we see Paul doing in so many places, and he was opposed for his efforts as well. We just read what he wrote and don't take offence because he is not actually with us and we often don't apply what he wrote to ourselves. It's like the religious leaders of Jesus' day who built lovely sepulchers for the prophets to honour them only because they weren't in their faces any longer.

2Ti 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

This is a very thin-skinned generation that has been brought up in the church with seeker-friendly, people-pleasing, soft ear tickling messages, who take offence way too easily.

There are people who bully other people though.

See the problem isn’t just walking away.

The problem is controlling.

I’m not Paul. And also I don’t have to have to rebuke or correct anyone.

I can share my thoughts, opinions or perspectives but when people start to down play me personally or I see them down playing anther person.

All that crap is just religious nonsense.

 

[MatthewG]

See the old ways be tough and bust a person in the lip to prove a point.

Thats a bunch of fleshly nonsense.

Debates don’t do nothing either. Just flesh trying to please itself.

That’s why I cut ties and just use ignore on this website.

I’m only accountable to myself and what I do with my own life before I die.

I’m not gonna go around picking people apart. Especially when some dialogue between people are not caring what the other has to say anyway.

 

[marks]

. But I believe some of those are in a manner of speaking as well (or perhaps we could say hyperbole).....I don;t take "Saul Saul why do you persecute me? " as being literal either...but that it is in a spiritual sense of Christ identifying with His body.

To me, that's a huge problem. No wonder though why we have different ideas about some things.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I don;t take "Saul Saul why do you persecute me? " as being literal either...

Flowery speech that means nothing? "I'm with you there buddy!"

Maybe this is hyperbole?

Galatians 2:20 KJV
20) I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Are we "one with Christ"? Or is that just a way of saying "we're on the same page"?

This seems to be the end of nearly all Scriptural disagreements . . ."Um . . . that verse doesn't really mean exactly what it says . . ." to which I heartily disagree.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I have no idea why this thread keeps rumbling along. Jesus did not stop sin from occurring in this world, but His actions on the cross certainly provides the covering needed for when we are judged if we chose to embrace His Love for us.

Covering is the OT way sin was temporarily dealt with. In Christ, sin is not merely covered, it was "carried away" by Jesus.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

There is always a fine line and the flesh should be kept out of it. But false gospels and false christs are dangerous too. Those who are graced with the task will be found being on guard for the church and contending for the faith once delivered. That's what we see Paul doing in so many places, and he was opposed for his efforts as well. We just read what he wrote and don't take offence because he is not actually with us and we often don't apply what he wrote to ourselves. It's like the religious leaders of Jesus' day who built lovely sepulchers for the prophets to honour them only because they weren't in their faces any longer.

2Ti 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

This is a very thin-skinned generation that has been brought up in the church with seeker-friendly, people-pleasing, soft ear tickling messages, who take offence way too easily.

But why is it thin skinned . oh what you wrote is very true .
But let me ask another question .
WHY is it folks can call me names , even put me on ignore
even cast me out
and yet what they say against me dont have me running in a corner
trying to play the victim card as they do .
The why is
BECAUSE by grace , and that surely be of GOD ,
i have one desire and no matter what folks say against me , to me or about me
SO long as i stand on the truth , GOD REJOICES MY heart . I dont have ANYTHING TO HIDE
and if i be in error by all means do correct me .
I dont fear harsh words of men . I dont have to hear all kinds of smooth things
or folks telling me how good i am or etc . T RUTH IS
there is NOthing GOOD IN ME , BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD .
I dont have to have mans approval . I DESIRE only that GOD , WHO SAVED ME , changed me , Has kept me ,
BE GLORIFIED in all i say and do . WHICH is why i always pray for utterance . cause i cannot do
a thing without HIM . ITS TO HE i owe all
And its to HE WE OWE ALL . AND I know its HIS TRUTH which is what will do good for the hearer and the doer .
This world can count me as TOTAL dung , BUT so long as GOD be glorified , CHRIST be glorified
and souls be helped and saved , THAT IS ALL that matters to me.
AND BELIEVE me , THAT AINT the flesh talking , GOD is the one who has changed my heart
AND DAILY does HE WORK ON ME . ITS TRULY BIBLE TIME IN THE HOUSE AGAIN for this generation .
TRUTH cannot lie , but man can . And its about high time folks start trusting in GOD , IN CHRIST
AND IN HIS WORDS and all words HE DID INSPIRE by the apostels and prophets as well .

 

[Jay Ross]

Covering is the OT way sin was temporarily dealt with. In Christ, sin is not merely covered, it was "carried away" by Jesus.

Much love!

But the ease with which we can step over the line in the sand, so to speak, without realising it, is so subtle, that we often do not catch ourselves that we have already committed the real sin of actually turning away from God. King David did not remember that he had turned away from God, which he had committed some six or so years before until Nathan the prophet came and told him the story of the old man who had a lamb which David had stolen from the old man to feed Satan with.

This story is in the OT but it is also applicable today as well.

God had told Adam that if he sinned by eating from the Tree of Knowledge that he would become a candidate to die the Second Death at the time of the final judgement. What David did, when he remembered his sin, was to humble himself and he immediately repented of his turning away from God and losing his moral compass.

 

[marks]

But the ease with which we can step over the line in the sand, so to speak, without realising it, is so subtle,

Let's not lose the distinction, though. It's important, to say the least.

Much love!

 

[Jay Ross]

Let's not lose the distinction, though. It's important, to say the least.

Much love!

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[marks]

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We need to understand and remember the difference between sins being temporarily covered by animal sacrifices (for Israel) in the OT, and the sin of the world being carried away by Jesus Christ.

In the first, you have to keep offering the animals day after day, year after year, a constant reminder that you are still in your sin, only that it is covered while the sacrifices continue.

Once Christ died, there remains no more sacrifice for sin.

Much love!

 

[Lizbeth]

To me, that's a huge problem. No wonder though why we have different ideas about some things.

Much love!

Are we not to "compare spiritual with spiritual" then?

 

[Jay Ross]

Once Christ died, there remains no more sacrifice for sin.

But we all have a hard time trying to stop ourselves from continuing to sin and we end up entering into the shadow/valley of the consequences of the second death and to recover like David, we still need to repent.

 

[amigo de christo]

We need to understand and remember the difference between sins being temporarily covered by animal sacrifices (for Israel) in the OT, and the sin of the world being carried away by Jesus Christ.

In the first, you have to keep offering the animals day after day, year after year, a constant reminder that you are still in your sin, only that it is covered while the sacrifices continue.

Once Christ died, there remains no more sacrifice for sin.

Much love!

for those who BELEIVE ON HIM .
but unto any jew or gentile who Beleives not ON HIM
that JESUS IS THE CHRIST , that HE DID indeed do all that was needed for us to be saved
They gonna wail so loud on the day of the LORD .
And as far as sins being removed
as far as the blood of Christ
WHY COME or HOW COME do i see so many whose sins DONT SEEM to be removed at all
and their conscious seems NOT to have been purged at all .
They holding rainbows , they loving on money , they hollering judge not correct not
to men who do all to HELP this people and warn them to repent of sin .
What i sees is a lot of folks , JUST LIKE I once was
Lipping his name BUT HEART FAR FAR FROM HIM loving on my sins . Satans child i was . THANK GOD FOR HIS MERCY
and grace is all i can say .

 

[MatthewG]

I used to be really hard on myself—again and again. But I don’t do that anymore. There’s no need to keep punishing myself just for recognizing the things I might be tempted by. These days, I simply make a choice: I either walk away from it, or I engage with it knowingly.

The truth is, nothing is inherently evil on its own. But if something causes harm to your spirit or convicts your conscience, it's wise to steer clear. Some folks say you shouldn't smoke, drink coffee, eat candy, or consume adult content—but in reality, everything has a context and purpose. The important thing is understanding our own hearts and being honest with ourselves.

Feeling upset about what we know we might do doesn’t always carry a lot of weight. What really matters is the condition of our heart—especially when it begins to harbor bitterness, condemnation, or judgment toward others. That’s what Jesus kept confronting the Pharisees about. He pointed out that they had missed the mark, and gently reminded them that he came to restore and heal what was broken.

Every person has their own journey, shaped by unique experiences and perspectives. We’re not called to live perfectly—we’re called to live humbly and gently, letting the Lord Yeshua guide us from within. He is the one who moves through us, doing good, not by our own strength but by his righteousness. And to him, we give all the glory.