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Nancy

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Philippians 2:2 - Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be LIKEMINDED, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Of ONE MIND, ONE ACCORD, LIKEMINDED...

Ephesians 4:3 - "Endeavoring to keep the UNITY of the SPIRIT in the bond of peace."

Philippians 1:27 - "Only let your conversation be as it becometh the GOSPEL OF CHRIST that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast IN ONE SPIRIT, striving together for the faith of THE GOSPEL;



There IS only ONE Spirit whom we Christians follow...if we truly are following the Spirit of the only true and living God.

Our God has many characteristics! He is loving, yes He is. He is also jealous, wrathful, long suffering, righteous, all in all "good". He JUDGES also. Jesus had allot to say about that and, I will not quote the many verses here...y'all can look 'em up! (how's that @Mayflower ? :D )

If ever there was a time to be discerning for us, it is now. Love has turned cold, people have that 'form of Godliness, but deny the true power...'

If one is emotional or tends towards the emotional, (like myself at times) we can miss the hard sayings. Or, just pass them over because our God is GOOD! He would never do that!!! But, why then did Jesus speak more about hell than heaven?? Why so very many warnings from Jesus Himself and many more from the writers of the NT?

We CANNOT leave our "first love".

1 Timothy 4:16 - "Take heed unto thyself, and UNTO THE DOCTRINE; CONTINUE IN THEM: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."

James Chapter 5

19 "Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;"

20 "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."

The gospel is simple, and there is ONLY one Jesus,
2 Corinthians 11:3-4
And, one gospel:

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Galatians 1:8

and only ONE Spirit:

"There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;"
Ephesians 4:4


1 Corinthians 6:17
"But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit."

Why would anyone want to believe a lie? It is difficult to understand how anyone could openly and knowingly "believe" an un-truth. How can anyone know God?? Impossible! But, He reveals Himself as He wills to whom He wills. His character is given to us through His word and, we know that He NEVER changes...what an awesome confidence we have in Him!!! He does NOT change and we can ALWAYS depend on that. Such confidence :)

No need to be a scholar or a college educated person to understand and know His will when it comes to false teaching, we pray and hope for discernment...He DOES give it!

Lord, please give your people discernment to know truth from lies. Give us all the desire only to please you and to desire only TRUTH. It is futile otherwise.
Thank and praise, glory and honor to you Lord, amen!

People are falling away from the true church. I see it with folks I know personally. Some of them would, and do condone sin...especially sexual sin.

This world is sure changing quickly. We are looking at two more things to happen before Christ's return (from what I understand). First, the "great apostacy" and the revealing the "man of perdition". So far, the great apostacy is pretty clear to me.

Do the will of the Father, listen to His Son, amen.

Sorry if this is kind of a shattered post, I had written more but, it all disappeared as my computer will do that at times, arg!

I'm sure you all will get the gist of what I'm trying to say here...






 

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Hi @Nancy Reminds me of this verse, from 'Lord, Thy Word abideth': :)

"O that we discerning
its most holy learning,
Lord, may love and fear thee,
evermore be near thee!"
 
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Why would anyone want to believe a lie? It is difficult to understand how anyone could openly and knowingly "believe" an un-truth. How can anyone know God?? Impossible! But, He reveals Himself as He wills to whom He wills. His character is given to us through His word and, we know that He NEVER changes...what an awesome confidence we have in Him!!! He does NOT change and we can ALWAYS depend on that. Such confidence :)
Oohhhh, that's no mystery; people believe lies because they think they're the truth.
Do I get ten out of ten? :)
 
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Oohhhh, that's no mystery; people believe lies because they think they're the truth.
Do I get ten out of ten? :)

Yeah, ya get a tenner bro. God gives them up to believe it...
I remember back in the day that I WANTED to believe a lie, kind of like your signature:
"What men want is a method of forgetting God that shall pass as a method of remembering him" - but, could not as, well...it was a lie!! All I wanted was TRUTH. Like, "will the True God stand up" kind of thing. He brought me to the Truth, amen!!!!
 
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Yeah, ya get a tenner bro. God gives them up to believe it...
I remember back in the day that I WANTED to believe a lie, kind of like your signature:
"What men want is a method of forgetting God that shall pass as a method of remembering him" - but, could not as, well...it was a lie!! All I wanted was TRUTH. Like, "will the True God stand up" kind of thing. He brought me to the Truth, amen!!!!
:)...isn't it wonderful when a greater truth eclipses a lesser truth?
 
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":)...isn't it wonderful when a greater truth eclipses a lesser truth?"

Yes! especially when the "lesser truth" is an outright lie ;)
an embrace is a great thing but being enveloped is far superior :)
 
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Why would anyone want to believe a lie?
That's the million dollar question. But the sad fact today is that THE MAJORITY of humanity does want to believe all the lies that are dished out every day. Like the saying goes: THEY JUST CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Everything in your OP is biblical. But there are many who say that they are Christians but reject biblical doctrines and principles. Now how do you explain that?

Well there is no question that we all need great discernment at this time, but before that we must love the truth. And the Lord Jesus Christ is also the Truth.
 

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That's the million dollar question. But the sad fact today is that THE MAJORITY of humanity does want to believe all the lies that are dished out every day. Like the saying goes: THEY JUST CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Everything in your OP is biblical. But there are many who say that they are Christians but reject biblical doctrines and principles. Now how do you explain that?

Well there is no question that we all need great discernment at this time, but before that we must love the truth. And the Lord Jesus Christ is also the Truth.

WORD!
Yes, they cannot handle the truth...sure don't change it though! There is only ONE WAY, one TRUTH and one LIFE. People want a variety to choose from, like cereal, when it comes to their gods, which ever one allows them to still be their OWN gods is cool with them...intellectual dishonesty, really...AND quite deadly :O
 
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We CANNOT leave our "first love"...

"...And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent." Rev 2:3-5


Why would anyone want to believe a lie? It is difficult to understand how anyone could openly and knowingly "believe" an un-truth.

People knowingly take a "short cut" or "detour", effectively stepping off of the "highway of holiness" for a moment or so to satisfy their lust in that moment intending sometimes to make it right later. Will there be a later for them?

But then purposely doing the smallest [or not so small] thing while off the highway of holiness, have they moved onto a pathway where they end up in a delusion (a delusion about their love for and service to God):

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness" II Thess 2:10-12

Do we really love the Truth? If we do, then so long as we do not lose it, will there ever be a danger of being sent a delusion (delusion = a false belief or judgment about what is, held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary)?

How can anyone know God?? Impossible!
It was impossible for Moses to see the face of God and live... yet:

"And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend..." Exodus 33:11

And then...:

"And he said, I beseech thee, show me thy glory." Exodus 33:18

"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." Exodus 33:20

But with God there is always a Way if we are really sincere and willing, right?

"And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen." Exodus 33:22-23

That was the meek man, Moses, and...us?

Did Jesus not make a Way for us to see, but if we do not really love the Truth there is again that delusion, right?

Think carefully about who [Jesus] the Truth is. Do we love truth? Add this to the question: More than anything else?

How well are we seeing/understanding truth when he becomes our first love? Do we love Jesus without knowing him perfectly and absolutely?

... to be a scholar or a college educated person to understand and know His will when it comes to false teaching, we pray and hope for discernment...He DOES give it!
Did Moses discern God for that "face to face" in Ex 33:11 or from the cleft in the rock later in the same chapter?

What is Truth?
What is face to face?
What is the face of God?
What is discernment?
What is love?
 
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Lord, please give your people discernment to know truth from lies. Give us all the desire only to please you and to desire only TRUTH. It is futile otherwise.
Thank and praise, glory and honor to you Lord, amen!

Amen, Nancy
 
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