Dispensationalists Don’t Even Know What Israel Is — And It’s Time to Repent

[The Gospel of Christ]

Here’s the problem:

Most of you don’t even know who or what "Israel" is.
I’d testify to that in a court of law.
And if there were a lie detector wired to an electric chair, I’d volunteer to sit in it — just to declare the truth that you have no clue what Israel actually is… and I’d walk away without a single shock.

You’ve been so thoroughly brainwashed by dispensationalist fantasy that nearly every time the word “Israel” appears in the New Testament, you have no idea who Jesus or the apostles are talking about.

You’ve built your entire eschatology on a lie — propping up a Christ-rejecting nation, clinging to a 2,000-year-old corpse of a covenant God already fulfilled, while trampling the blood of the New.

The true Israel of God has never been a flag or a border — it’s always been the remnant who believe.

Galatians 3:28–29
“There is neither Jew nor Greek... for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

^ This obliterates the myth that ethnic Jews are automatically heirs to God’s promises.
→ The true heirs are those in Christ — period. No dual covenant. No ethnic loophole.

Romans 9:6–8
“They are not all Israel who are descended from Israel...
That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God;
but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”

^ This drives the dagger straight into the heart of ethnic presumption.
Being Jewish by blood means nothing without faith — that’s Paul’s entire point.

And let’s not kid ourselves and talk about the 70 ton elephant in the room while we're here.
You know, the one draped in a blue-and-white flag, stomping around the Middle East claiming to be “God’s chosen” while rejecting His Son.

The one propped up not by God, but by U.N. tanks, Rothschild cash, and a Scofield Bible in every evangelical pew.
Yeah… that elephant.

Benjamin Netanyahu — born Ben Mileikowsky — is a white Eastern European.
A bonafide Gentile convert — not a "descendant of Abraham".
And neither are 95%+ of today’s False Israel™ population — mostly Gentile converts from Khazaria, Russia, and Eastern Europe, not "descendants of Abraham".

They are not the seed of Moses, Aaron, or David.
They are the sons & daughters of conversion, not covenant.
Their ancestors didn’t adopt Talmudic Judaism until 740 A.D., under King Bulan of Khazaria — a forced conversion, political move, not a divine calling.

The elites know this.
The Vatican knows it.
The Muslim world definitely knows it.

And yet, a nation of Scofield-fed evangelicals continues to bow before this golden calf, chanting “God’s chosen!” while they trample the Cross and ignore the Body of Christ — the true Israel of God.

The veil here isn’t just thick — it’s suffocating.

And here’s the non-negotiable truth of the Gospel:
Even if Netanyahu could produce a perfect DNA scroll tracing his bloodline to Abraham himself…
It wouldn’t matter.

Without Christ — he’s lost.

“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” — John 14:6

That includes kings, rabbis, priests, prophets — and prime ministers.
And let’s not forget the army of Eastern Europeans and Russians who somehow “discovered” they’re direct descendants of King David — right around the time Zionism needed a bloodline.

Spoiler: they’re about as "Biblical Israelite" and "ancient Hebrew" as a potato.

If Moses and Abraham stepped out of a time machine into downtown Tel Aviv tomorrow, they’d stare in disbelief and say:
“Did we take a wrong turn into Warsaw? This isn’t the tribe of Judah — these are strangers in the land. Foreigners dressed in borrowed names.”

Moses squints at the skyline, turns to Abraham and says:
“I don’t see Israel — I see impostors in our inheritance.”

Abraham, looking at the crowd:
“These aren’t our descendants. These are European tourists playing dress-up with our covenant.”


If the satanic elite hadn’t hijacked prophecy and violently annexed Palestine in 1948 — installing False Israel™ with U.N. tanks and Rothschild money — you wouldn’t even be preaching this theological abomination.
You’d still be confessing what every faithful Christian knew for 1,800 years:
That the Body of Christ is Israel.
And always was.

“For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.” — Philippians 3:3

“You are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation...” — 1 Peter 2:9

Imagine the saints in 1954 — faithful Christians on their deathbeds after 80 years of serving Christ — suddenly hearing:

“The real Israel isn’t the Church after all. It’s a new secular state in the Middle East!”

You can picture their response:

“What in God’s name are these people talking about?!"
"Who are these demons behind the pulpit on my television?"
"How can they not know the Church is Israel!?! The Body of Christ is Israel!"
"This isn’t prophecy they're preaching on the TV — this is blasphemy in broad daylight."
"God help us all!”

And they were right.
And you — and every dispensationalist clinging to Scofield’s fraud — are dead wrong.

Scofield didn’t teach revelation.
He taught replacement theology in reverse — replacing the Church with a Christless state and calling it prophecy.

“Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist — denying the Father and the Son.” — 1 John 2:22

You’ve bought it wholesale.
Not realizing the system you defend is the beast’s counterfeit kingdom — not Christ’s.

If the words of Jesus don’t define Israel for you — neither does God.

“This is My beloved Son... listen to Him.” — Matthew 17:5

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but inwardly.” — Romans 2:28–29

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

You’re not defending truth.
You’re defending an idol in the desert.

And when the true King returns, He’s not coming to sit in Tel Aviv.
He’s coming to judge the nations — and He’s starting with those who lied in His name.

You still want a third temple because you don’t know who Israel is.
You think God’s covenant is with a nation built by U.N. fiat and global bankers — not with the Body of Christ.
You’ve rejected the true Temple — Jesus — and now you’re trying to rebuild the very house He left desolate.

You’re not waiting on prophecy.
You’re resurrecting rebellion.

The only reason dispensationalists crave stone and blood sacrifices is because they’ve never understood the Cross.
They don’t realize that we — the Body of Christ — are the temple.

“Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?” — 1 Corinthians 3:16
“Built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone.” — Ephesians 2:20

You’re not lifting up God.
You’re defending a man-made idol — propped up by unbelief and nationalism.

You now bow to a political state filled with people whose ancestors didn’t follow God — but converted under Khazarian rule and built their religion not on the Torah… but on the Satanic, Anti-Christ, Talmud.

And being as tricked and deceived as humanly possible, you call these European identity thieves "Biblical, ethnic Jews" — while they mock the Body of Christ, the very people Jesus died to redeem. They must laugh themselves to sleep — watching evangelicals fund their empire, defend their rebellion, and quote Scofield like it’s scripture.

You’ve been duped.
And worse — you’re proud of it.

When the King returns,
He’s not coming to dedicate your idol.
He’s coming to tear it down — again.

Jesus never told His followers to rebuild the temple.
He told them they were the temple.

So if you're rebuilding what He destroyed,
You're not serving God.
You're rebuilding rebellion.

Repent..

 

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Repent..

And believe God's promises . . . without cherry picking the Scriptures.

Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Much love!

 

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The only reason dispensationalists crave stone and blood sacrifices

You have some strange ideas. Or you are purposely misrepresenting others. Either way, it's not a good look for you.

You've built your theology minus a great deal of Scripture.

Much love!

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

And believe God's promises . . . without cherry picking the Scriptures.

Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Much love!

You’re quoting Jeremiah as if the Old Covenant is still in effect — as if the New Covenant didn’t happen, or worse, didn’t fulfill what Jeremiah himself prophesied just four verses earlier:

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel…”
— Jeremiah 31:31

That’s not “cherry-picking.” That’s reading the whole chapter.

You’re clinging to the shadow when the substance has already come — Jesus Christ. He is the New Covenant, and He is the fulfillment of everything the prophets wrote. The seed of Israel was never about bloodline — it was always about promise and faith.

Paul explains exactly how Jeremiah was fulfilled:

“They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…
That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:
but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
— Romans 9:6–8

You’re still looking to the moon and stars as proof that a Christ-rejecting nation is “still Israel” — while ignoring the Son of God seated at the right hand of the Father.

Let me be clear:
There is no covenant outside of Christ.
None.

“This is My blood of the new covenant…”
— Luke 22:20

Jesus didn’t die to prop up the old nation —
He died to create a new one.

“You are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation…”
— 1 Peter 2:9

So no — God didn’t cast off Israel.
He redefined it through the Messiah.
And if you reject the Messiah, you are not Israel.

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

You quote stars and ordinances.
I quote the One who made them.

His name is Jesus.
And His covenant is final.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

You have some strange ideas. Or you are purposely misrepresenting others. Either way, it's not a good look for you.

You've built your theology minus a great deal of Scripture.

Much love!

You say I have “strange ideas”? No.
What’s strange is building a theology that craves the return of animal sacrifice after the blood of the Son of God was already spilled.

What’s strange is believing the Spirit-filled Body of Christ should bow to a Christ-rejecting state built by global bankers and tanks.

What’s strange is quoting Jeremiah about the sun and moon while ignoring the One who made them, and who fulfilled that covenant in His own blood.

You didn’t just miss some scriptures —
you missed the entire Gospel.

And make no mistake:
If you are cheering for a rebuilt temple,
you are not serving Christ.
You are resurrecting the rebellion He destroyed.

“This is My beloved Son… LISTEN TO HIM.” — Matthew 17:5

But you’re not listening.
You’re too busy quoting Scofield and defending a state that hates your Savior.

You want sacrifices?
Then you’ve rejected the Cross.

You want a third temple?
Then you’ve spit on the true Temple — Jesus Himself.

“Do you not know that YOU are the temple of God?” — 1 Corinthians 3:16

But you don’t want to be the temple.
You want bricks.
You want borders.
You want a golden calf draped in a blue-and-white flag.

You are not a servant of God.
You are a priest of a false kingdom —
and unless you repent,
you will fall with it.

“Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ.” — 1 John 2:22
Such a person is the antichrist.

If you still think God’s covenant is with a nation that tramples His Son —
then you’re not just misled. You are an enemy of the Cross.

When the King returns,
He’s not coming to sit in your temple.
He’s coming to tear it down — again.

Repent

 

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You’re quoting Jeremiah as if the Old Covenant is still in effect — as if the New Covenant didn’t happen, or worse, didn’t fulfill what Jeremiah himself prophesied just four verses earlier:

No, God Himself put the limits on that promise, not me. Read it for yourself.

Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

So, if those conditions have been fulfilled, then the promise is of no more effect. Therefore, the question is, did the sun rise this morning? Has anyone been to the center of the earth? (movies not allowed)

Much love!

 

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What’s strange is building a theology that craves the return of animal sacrifice after the blood of the Son of God was already spilled.

See, like this. A theology that craves something? Strange!

Much love!

 

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You want bricks.
You want borders.
You want a golden calf draped in a blue-and-white flag.

Looks like you want to have both sides of the discussion, so have at it, but your musing don't reflect reality.

Much love!

 

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What’s strange is quoting Jeremiah about the sun and moon while ignoring the One who made them, and who fulfilled that covenant in His own blood.

Silliness!! I'm the one who is honoring the God Who spoke these things by believing Him. You are basically saying that God promised something to be true as long as the sun and moon do what they do, and then decided, "OH, I guess not!"

That does not honor God.

Much love!

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

No, God Himself put the limits on that promise, not me. Read it for yourself.

Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever

Much love!

See, like this. A theology that craves something? Strange!

Much love!

Silliness!! I'm the one who is honoring the God Who spoke these things by believing Him. You are basically saying that God promised something to be true as long as the sun and moon do what they do, and then decided, "OH, I guess not!"

That does not honor God.

Much love!

You say I dishonor God?

No — you do.
You dishonor Him by clinging to shadows after the substance has come.
You dishonor the Cross by quoting stars and ordinances — while ignoring the One who bled beneath them.

You exalt a nation that crucified the Son of God
and dare call it “Israel” — while scorning His Body, the Church He purchased with His own blood.

“This is My blood of the new covenant…” — Luke 22:20
Not of bulls. Not of borders. Of Christ.

You’re not honoring God —
you’re mocking Him.

You wave Jeremiah 31:35 like it overrules the Gospel —
but four verses before it, Jeremiah tells you plainly:

“Behold, the days come… that I will make a new covenant.” — Jeremiah 31:31

That covenant was fulfilled in Christ — and ratified not with ink, but with nails.

And yet you still babble about sunrises and moonlight
like God forgot to include the cross in His plans.

You speak like one who tramples the blood of the Son of God —
as if His sacrifice wasn’t enough,
as if the New Covenant needs a political resurrection to make it whole.

That’s not faith.
That’s blindness.
And if you keep defending the Christless — while scorning the Body of Christ —
you won’t just be wrong.
You’ll be judged as an enemy of the Cross.

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly.” — Romans 2:28
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

But you don’t preach Christ.
You preach covenant apart from Him — a promise without a Savior,
a people without repentance,
a temple without the Cornerstone.

You say God “promised.”
I say God already fulfilled — in Jesus, not in Tel Aviv.

“For all the promises of God in Him are yes, and in Him amen.” — 2 Corinthians 1:20

Your gospel is a lie.
Your “Israel” is a golden calf.
Your theology is anti-Christ to its core.

And when the true King returns,
He won’t be saluting your idol.
He’ll be riding with fire in His eyes and a sword in His mouth:

“He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God…
Out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations.”
— Revelation 19:13–15

You still want bricks?

Then you’d better duck —
because the Chief Cornerstone is coming,
and He’s not laying a new foundation — He’s demolishing your blasphemous delusion.

“Fall on this Rock and be broken… or it will fall on you and grind you to powder.” — Luke 20:18

You call this “silliness”?
No — silliness is thinking God’s eternal covenant hinges on your ability to point at the sky and say,
“Well hey, the moon’s still up there — guess Israel doesn’t need Jesus!”

That’s not faith.
That’s divination disguised as doctrine — the voice of the serpent in a clerical robe.

That’s not faith in God's Word —
it’s Talmudic sorcery with a King James sticker slapped on it.

That’s not discernment.
It’s spiritual adultery with a Christless harlot in Jerusalem.

That’s not the Gospel.
It’s the gospel of Satan — the one that denies the Son but claims the blessing.

And you won’t be smirking when the clouds split and the One you’ve sidelined comes back —
not to dedicate your temple,
but to burn it to ash.

Repent

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

You’re quoting Jeremiah as if the Old Covenant is still in effect — as if the New Covenant didn’t happen, or worse, didn’t fulfill what Jeremiah himself prophesied just four verses earlier:

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel…”
— Jeremiah 31:31

That’s not “cherry-picking.” That’s reading the whole chapter.

You’re clinging to the shadow when the substance has already come — Jesus Christ. He is the New Covenant, and He is the fulfillment of everything the prophets wrote. The seed of Israel was never about bloodline — it was always about promise and faith.

Paul explains exactly how Jeremiah was fulfilled:

“They are not all Israel, which are of Israel…
That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:
but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
— Romans 9:6–8

You’re still looking to the moon and stars as proof that a Christ-rejecting nation is “still Israel” — while ignoring the Son of God seated at the right hand of the Father.

Let me be clear:
There is no covenant outside of Christ.
None.

“This is My blood of the new covenant…”
— Luke 22:20

Jesus didn’t die to prop up the old nation —
He died to create a new one.

“You are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation…”
— 1 Peter 2:9

So no — God didn’t cast off Israel.
He redefined it through the Messiah.
And if you reject the Messiah, you are not Israel.

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

You quote stars and ordinances.
I quote the One who made them.

His name is Jesus.
And His covenant is final.

Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega ! The same Holy Spirit from the begining and the Jews just got off track all through their history, it's a cycle, because the faith in God gets healthy and sick ! why does it get sick ? because they are Lost ! people within are corrupt at the top down are on about peddling their own works ends.

But when Jesus became the Christ, it was finished off ! Set ! the Path was Set, nothing more to add ! and the worthy Jews became the first Christians in fact ! that had nothing to do with Goyim at all !
The Goyim came in the same doorway by faith and became the body and Christ Jesus is the Head their of ! they are both one in the same under the same Roof ! no more Jew nor Greek, Race or Tribe has nothing at all to do with one recives the Holy Spirit ! for the Holy Spirit is the Key ! anyone who thinks it's ones so called Race is a total fool ! as the Jews could never Save themselves in fact !

But here we have total morons looking to the so called Jews to Save them ! the reason for that is that they are not Saved in fact ! just religious fools and outright Idiot's in fact ! they think the Jew is going to Save them ? how Carnal can one get ! They have been brainwashed ! So called Christians in fact ! Just as Lost as the Jews are ! Jesus will say to them, that he never knew them in fact ! because they are claiming to serve God, but they only serve Religion !

That's why so many are seeking the 2ed coming ! because they are clearely Lost ! they are not Saved in fact. for if one was Saved one does not seek the Hellfire for anyone in fact ! because one is found ! and that's the real issue Are you Found ! That's the question one should ask in fact !
Because to be Found ? at the second coming all will be Found in fact !
So what of them, who are Found before the second coming ? they can not be Found again can they, once Found you are Saved ! your Soul is Saved ! so what is it for the Found to seek the second coming for themselves ? not to mention who would want the Hellfire to come on others ? would One want to save them from the Hellfire, if you were worthy of Christ Jesus you would ! but ok the people bring the Helfire on themselves in fact, for that is their works that bring such on ! because they are working against God in fact, they are anti-Christ in fact !

Look I understand why people are so willing to fight against God, but a society can never Win, as the Rules are Set peroid ! sure a small % can win in the septic tank of this world and sit on top of the dunn heap ! boasting etc ? but their Soul is not Saved, they are a parasite not worthy of ther Kingdom of God in fact ! an abomination in fact !

The Kingdom of God is within ones reach, this can be set on this earth, that's why Jesus came in fact !
They who are of the Kingdom of God, are now. and people have been for 2000 years in fact on that Path ! but just as in the days of the Jews who rejected Christ Jesus, it's the same deal now with so called Christians who are not worthy of Christ Jesus in fact ! because they are not worthy of the Holy Spirit in fact !

One must serve Christ Jesus ! it's not a one off get out of Jail card, just because of ones little faith, you need the faith that can move mountains in fact ! That is solid faith, no holes or maybe's in such at all. it's solid conviction in Christ Jesus all the way !

Some one claimes to be a Jew, good ! come on board with Christ Jesus ! regardless you you think you are, That's the Path !

Oh waiting to see a Man are we ? so you will then have faith ? well even the worthy Jews did not get the blessing untill Jesus went to Heaven in fact, as he was then the Christ Jesus ! It was the Holy Spirit that they got so as to truly understand in fact ! The Lights went on ! before that the lights may of been on but nobody was at home !

 

[Jericho]

Benjamin Netanyahu — born Ben Mileikowsky — is a white Eastern European.
A bonafide Gentile convert — not a "descendant of Abraham".
And neither are 95%+ of today’s False Israel™ population — mostly Gentile converts from Khazaria, Russia, and Eastern Europe, not "descendants of Abraham".

I've seen this brought up a lot in my internet travels: that the Jews are not really the Jews, so that makes it okay to hate them. So, let's get into it. The Khazarian Theory postulates that a significant portion of European Jews, particularly Ashkenazi Jews, are descended from the Khazars. The Khazars were a semi-nomadic Turkic people who originated from the Central Asian region and migrated to the area north of the Caucasus Mountains, in present-day southern Russia, western Kazakhstan, eastern Ukraine, and parts of the Caucasus.

As the story goes, the Khazars converted to Judaism in the 8th or 9th century, possibly for political reasons. The ruling class may have wanted to maintain neutrality between the Muslim Caliphate to the south and the Byzantine Empire to the west. However, other religions were also practiced. including Islam, Christianity, and Tengrism. This continued until the Khazar state declined and then collapsed in the 10th century. No one knows for sure what became of them, but they likely assimilated into neighboring populations.

The Khazarian theory suggested they migrated westward and became the Jews we know today. The theory originated in the 19th and 20th centuries by some scholars and historians. However, it was popularized by writer Arthur Koestler, himself a Hungarian Jew, in his 1976 book "The Thirteenth Tribe." Koestler was critical of nationalist ideologies and some aspects of Zionism. By providing an alternate explanation that removed the biological connection with Biblical Jews, he thought it might remove the anti-Semitism that was so prevalent in Europe. Ironically, his ideas have fueled it.

And what might have compelled Koestler to write such a book? Koestler was raised Jewish but became disillusioned with religion in general and Judaism specifically. He later rejected all religious beliefs, becoming an atheist and a communist. As an atheist, he would have rejected the biblical origins of the Jewish people. As a communist, he would have been opposed to Jewish nationalism. As both an atheist and a communist, he would have viewed the Jewish people strictly through a secular lens, seeking to divest them from their religious and cultural identity.

Koestler was neither a historian nor a geneticist. DNA research was still in its infancy at the time. It wasn’t until the late 1980s that comprehensive DNA mapping of the human genome began. And it wasn’t until the 1990s that systematic research on Jewish DNA was conducted. The study of Jewish DNA is perhaps the greatest blow against the Khazarian theory. I've actually looked at some of those studies. Ashkenazi Jews definitely have some European admixture, but they also have Middle Eastern DNA as well. Here are a few studies:

*Researchers at the Technion - Israel Institute of Technology compared DNA sequences from nearly 2000 Jews with those of 11,500 non–Jewish people in 67 different populations around the world. They found both Ashkenazi and non–Ashkenazi Jews are descended from four founding mothers of middle-eastern descent. Source

*Geneticists from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Harvard Medical School studied the DNA of 33 German Ashkenazi Jews excavated from a 14th century cemetery. Analysis revealed these German Jews were descended from two distinct subgroups, one with greater Middle Eastern ancestry, and another with greater Eastern and Central European ancestry. Further evidence found they were all descended from a single ancestral woman. Source

*Several studies were analyzed to understand the genetic relationships, origins, and historical migrations of Jewish populations. Patterns are consistent with a shared Near East ancestry along with variable degrees of admixture (blending) and introgression (genetic mixing) from local populations. A high degree of European admixture (30–60 %) was observed among Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Italian and Syrian Jews. The North African Jewish groups demonstrated North African and Middle Eastern admixture with varying European admixture. Source

Marrying women from the local populations was not uncommon even in Biblical times. Moses married an Ethiopian (Cushite, Num 12:1) and a Midianite woman (Exo 2:21). Joseph married an Egyptian (Gen 41:45). Judah and Simeon married Canaanite women. Boaz married Ruth (a Moabite). Salmon likely married Rahab, a Canaanite woman (Jos 6:25). Solomon had many foreign wives, and so on. Regardless of the addition of local admixture, that still makes them descendants of Abraham. I would add, not all the Jews left after the destruction of the Second Temple (70 CE) and the Bar Kokhba Revolt (132–135 CE). There has always been a continuous Jewish presence in that region.

There is one study that supported the Khazarian theory, but even those whose data set they used later refuted them. Quote:

"One recent study (Elhaik, 2013), making use of part of our data set (Behar and others, 2010), focused specifically on the Khazar hypothesis, arguing that it has strong genetic support. This claim was built on a series of analyses similar to those performed in our original study that initially reported the data. However, the reanalysis relied on the provocative assumption that the Armenians and Georgians of the South Caucasus region could serve as appropriate proxies for Khazar descendants (Elhaik, 2013).

This assumption is problematic for a number of reasons. First, because of the great variety of populations in the Caucasus region and the fact that no specific population in the region is known to represent Khazar descendants, evidence for ancestry among Caucasus populations need not reflect Khazar ancestry. Second, even if it were allowed that Caucasus affinities could represent Khazar ancestry, the use of the Armenians and Georgians as Khazar proxies is particularly poor, as they represent the southern part of the Caucasus region, while the Khazar Khaganate was centered in the North Caucasus and further to the north. Furthermore, among populations of the Caucasus, Armenians and Georgians are geographically the closest to the Middle East, and are therefore expected a priori to show the greatest genetic similarity to Middle Eastern populations.

Indeed, a rather high similarity of South Caucasus populations to Middle Eastern groups was observed at the level of the whole genome in a recent study (Yunusbayev and others, 2012). Thus, any genetic similarity between Ashkenazi Jews and Armenians and Georgians might merely reflect a common shared Middle Eastern ancestry component, actually providing further support to a Middle Eastern origin of Ashkenazi Jews, rather than a hint for a Khazar origin." Source

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

I've seen this brought up a lot in my internet travels: that the Jews are not really the Jews, so that makes it okay to hate them. So, let's get into it. The Khazarian Theory postulates that a significant portion of European Jews, particularly Ashkenazi Jews, are descended from the Khazars. The Khazars were a semi-nomadic Turkic people who originated from the Central Asian region and migrated to the area north of the Caucasus Mountains, in present-day southern Russia, western Kazakhstan, eastern Ukraine, and parts of the Caucasus.

As the story goes, the Khazars converted to Judaism in the 8th or 9th century, possibly for political reasons. The ruling class may have wanted to maintain neutrality between the Muslim Caliphate to the south and the Byzantine Empire to the west. However, other religions were also practiced. including Islam, Christianity, and Tengrism. This continued until the Khazar state declined and then collapsed in the 10th century. No one knows for sure what became of them, but they likely assimilated into neighboring populations.

The Khazarian theory suggested they migrated westward and became the Jews we know today. The theory originated in the 19th and 20th centuries by some scholars and historians. However, it was popularized by writer Arthur Koestler, himself a Hungarian Jew, in his 1976 book "The Thirteenth Tribe." Koestler was critical of nationalist ideologies and some aspects of Zionism. By providing an alternate explanation that removed the biological connection with Biblical Jews, he thought it might remove the anti-Semitism that was so prevalent in Europe. Ironically, his ideas have fueled it.

And what might have compelled Koestler to write such a book? Koestler was raised Jewish but became disillusioned with religion in general and Judaism specifically. He later rejected all religious beliefs, becoming an atheist and a communist. As an atheist, he would have rejected the biblical origins of the Jewish people. As a communist, he would have been opposed to Jewish nationalism. As both an atheist and a communist, he would have viewed the Jewish people strictly through a secular lens, seeking to divest them from their religious and cultural identity.

Koestler was neither a historian nor a geneticist. DNA research was still in its infancy at the time. It wasn’t until the late 1980s that comprehensive DNA mapping of the human genome began. And it wasn’t until the 1990s that systematic research on Jewish DNA was conducted. The study of Jewish DNA is perhaps the greatest blow against the Khazarian theory. I've actually looked at some of those studies. Ashkenazi Jews definitely have some European admixture, but they also have Middle Eastern DNA as well. Here are a few studies:

*Researchers at the Technion - Israel Institute of Technology compared DNA sequences from nearly 2000 Jews with those of 11,500 non–Jewish people in 67 different populations around the world. They found both Ashkenazi and non–Ashkenazi Jews are descended from four founding mothers of middle-eastern descent. Source

*Geneticists from The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Harvard Medical School studied the DNA of 33 German Ashkenazi Jews excavated from a 14th century cemetery. Analysis revealed these German Jews were descended from two distinct subgroups, one with greater Middle Eastern ancestry, and another with greater Eastern and Central European ancestry. Further evidence found they were all descended from a single ancestral woman. Source

*Several studies were analyzed to understand the genetic relationships, origins, and historical migrations of Jewish populations. Patterns are consistent with a shared Near East ancestry along with variable degrees of admixture (blending) and introgression (genetic mixing) from local populations. A high degree of European admixture (30–60 %) was observed among Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Italian and Syrian Jews. The North African Jewish groups demonstrated North African and Middle Eastern admixture with varying European admixture. Source

Marrying women from the local populations was not uncommon even in Biblical times. Moses married an Ethiopian (Cushite, Num 12:1) and a Midianite woman (Exo 2:21). Joseph married an Egyptian (Gen 41:45). Judah and Simeon married Canaanite women. Boaz married Ruth (a Moabite). Salmon likely married Rahab, a Canaanite woman (Jos 6:25). Solomon had many foreign wives, and so on. Regardless of the addition of local admixture, that still makes them descendants of Abraham. I would add, not all the Jews left after the destruction of the Second Temple (70 CE) and the Bar Kokhba Revolt (132–135 CE). There has always been a continuous Jewish presence in that region.

Let’s correct the record before this gets twisted into another emotional diversion.

What I said had nothing to do with “hating Jews.” That’s the tired shield Dispensationalists hide behind anytime someone dares to question the ethnic legitimacy of modern Israel or the myth that today’s unbelieving nation-state is the fulfillment of God’s covenant.

Here’s the point:
Benjamin Netanyahu — born Ben Mileikowsky — is a white Eastern European.
A Gentile by birth, descended from converts — not Abraham.
And so are the vast majority of modern Ashkenazi Jews — Eastern European, Slavic, and Khazarian in origin, not Semitic Hebrews from ancient Judea.

That doesn’t mean they deserve hatred. It means they don’t get to hijack the covenant of God, reject Christ, and still claim divine entitlement to land, blessing, or prophetic favor.

The Gospel doesn’t run through DNA — it runs through the Cross.
And Paul made that clear:

“They are not all Israel who are of Israel... that is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God.” — Romans 9:6–8

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” — Galatians 3:29

You can throw all the genetic studies you want into the mix — none of it overrides the clear teaching of the New Testament:
Outside of Christ, no one is a child of promise.
Not an Israeli. Not an American. Not a Khazarian. Not anyone.

So yes — the modern state of Israel is filled with people who do not descend from the biblical patriarchs. Even if you grant some genetic blending, it’s still irrelevant:

Because salvation — and covenant inheritance — has never been about race, and it sure as hell isn’t about DNA in the New Covenant.
It’s about faith in Jesus Christ.

And if you’re defending a nation that rejects Christ as somehow “God’s chosen people,” you’ve denied the Gospel — and bought into a Scofield fantasy that has zero backing from scripture, the early Church, or Christ Himself.

 

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You say I dishonor God?

Yes, you do, by your refusal to believe His promises. IF you cannot believe God's promises to others, how is it you believe His promises to you?

Your post is filled with so much fantasy and presumption, all because you refuse to believe God's promise, thinking somehow that God cannot keep both His promises to the children of Jacob, and still save eternally in Christ alone.

Believe His promises, without cherry picking.

Much love!

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Yes, you do, by your refusal to believe His promises. IF you cannot believe God's promises to others, how is it you believe His promises to you?

Your post is filled with so much fantasy and presumption, all because you refuse to believe God's promise, thinking somehow that God cannot keep both His promises to the children of Jacob, and still save eternally in Christ alone.

Believe His promises, without cherry picking.

Much love!

No, I believe every promise God ever made — including the ones He already fulfilled in Christ.
You’re the one refusing to accept that God kept His Word — not just to Israel, but to the world — through the blood of Jesus.

Your entire theology hinges on the idea that Christ wasn’t enough, that somehow the Cross paused God’s plan instead of fulfilling it.

“It is finished.” — John 19:30
But you treat it like He said, “To be continued.”

You’re not defending God’s promises.
You’re denying their completion in the One they all pointed to.

So don’t talk to me about cherry-picking — you’re throwing out the entire New Testament just to keep clinging to the shadow after the substance has come.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Let this serve as a public warning to every honest seeker reading this thread:

What’s being pushed in this thread by Dispensationalists is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
It is a perversion — a Scofield-born, Darby-fed, dispensational virus that’s been spreading through the Body like a cancer for over a century.

It denies the power of the Cross.
It tramples the blood of the covenant.
And it teaches two peoples, two covenants, two salvations — as if Christ’s death wasn’t enough to make one new man.

“He Himself is our peace, who has made both one… so as to create in Himself one new man from the two.” — Ephesians 2:14–15

But that’s not what’s being taught here.
What’s being preached is a false gospel — one that says Jews are saved without Jesus, that God’s promises are on hold until modern Israel gets its act together, and that the New Covenant is somehow not in effect yet.

That’s not Christianity — that’s theological blasphemy.
It’s Satanic and Anti-Christ to its core.

It dresses itself up in scripture but denies the authority of Jesus.
It quotes Paul but cuts Christ out of the conversation.
It waves the Bible around like a flag while slicing it into pieces with Scofield’s knife.

This doctrine exalts bloodline over the Blood, genealogy over grace, and a piece of land over the Kingdom not of this world.
It tells Jews they don’t need the Messiah.
It tells Gentiles to passively watch the news while the Church waits for God to finish what Christ supposedly didn’t.

It’s not just false — it’s openly blasphemous, and it leaves both Jew and Gentile outside the covenant of life.

Jesus didn’t die to create a segregated salvation plan.
He died to fulfill the Law, to tear the veil, and to make one Body by grace through faith in His name alone.

“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20
“He takes away the first, that He may establish the second.” — Hebrews 10:9
“A new covenant… He has made the first obsolete.” — Hebrews 8:13

That’s not a mistranslation. That’s the Word of God.
And if you're twisting that to fit your Zionist prophecy charts, you're not in error — you're in rebellion.

To those lurking in this thread — don’t fall for it.
Don’t be seduced by smooth-talking wolves who make unbelief look like prophecy.

“If anyone preaches another gospel… let him be accursed.” — Galatians 1:8

This isn’t a debate.
This is war — for the truth of the Gospel, for the souls of the lost, and for the honor of Christ.

This dispensational gospel is a counterfeit gospel.
This theology is not of God.
And the spirit behind it is not the Holy Spirit.
It is the spirit of antichrist —
and I reject it in the name of the King who already reigns.

And if you just started going to church and there’s a demon behind the pulpit screaming this Satanic blasphemy —
RUN.
Run for your life.
Don’t sit there nodding along while poison fills the pulpit. Don’t stay because the music moves you or the smiles feel warm. Satan doesn’t show up with horns — he shows up with hospitality and heresy.

If your so-called pastor is preaching that Jews are saved without Jesus…
If he says the New Covenant isn’t in effect…
If he teaches that God has two peoples and two plans — one for Israel, one for the Church — then he is not a shepherd.
He is a mouthpiece for Satan, and he is leading you straight into the gates of Hell.

Find another church. A real one.
One where Christ is King, the Cross is enough, and the Word is rightly divided — not dispensationally butchered.