Do Pharisees Still Exist Today?

[Big Boy Johnson]

I think we could find Pharisees in just about every denomination if we really looked. Legalism is really not all that uncommon.

Yeah the fake grace crowd screams LEGALISM is somebody tell them living in sin ain't right.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Do Pharisees still exist today? Yes...
They infest the Evangelical Church like spiritual termites —
chewing through the foundation of the Gospel
while smiling, collecting tithes and waving flags with a star that God cursed. (Acts 7:43, Amos 5:26)

Here comes a few of them now…
Armed with prophecy charts,
dual-covenant lies,
and a Scofield Bible so full of heretical footnotes
they forgot how to read the actual Word of God.

These aren’t teachers of the Gospel.
They’re mouthpieces for a Zionist psyop
masquerading as Christian theology.

 

[Josho]

Yeah the fake grace crowd screams LEGALISM is somebody tell them living in sin ain't right.

That is not what I am talking about, putting extra conditions for salvation and Christian living that aren't there in the NT is legalism or adhering to Old Covenant Jewish laws that were not a part of the NT.

For example some denominations prohibit the eating of certain foods, the only NT instructions regarding food.

Acts 15:29
"You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things"

The food issue is not a matter effecting salvation though, sexual immorality on the other hand can, as it's repeated throughout the NT as a dangerous kind of sin that can lead to destruction, however it's not an unforgivable sin, one can repent and it's forgiven.

Another example of legalism is requiring Christians to rest on a specific day in order to be saved or prohibiting them from worshiping on a Sunday, or prohibiting them from celebrating Jesus during Easter or Christmas

Or "though must get rid of tattoos" or "men must wear suits and ties to go to church" or "though must not use certain genres of music in Christian songs."

Those are examples of legalism.

You get the idea....

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

That is not what I am talking about, putting extra conditions for salvation and Christian living that aren't there in the NT is legalism

The NT teaches that walking after the flesh is sinful behavior.

But the greasy gracers claim that's legalism and of course many believe them and go back to living in sin.

 

[Cyd]

There is only one Gospel —
but the Bible is clear:
it can be perverted.
Not just by atheists or pagans —
but by those claiming to speak for God.

“There are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel… let him be accursed.”
— Galatians 1:7–8

And what do we see today?

A perverted gospel that divides the Body of Christ,
exalts a Christ-rejecting nation,
and teaches that salvation can come through race, geography, or heritage —
instead of Christ alone.

That’s not Christianity.
That’s Antichrist theology.

“If righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”
— Galatians 2:21

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but inwardly.”
— Romans 2:28

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.”
— Galatians 3:29

So when Gentile converts from 740 AD
claim to be “ethnic biblical Jews” — and the modern Church bows to them as the chosen people —
what are we really witnessing?

“I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.”
— Revelation 2:9

We are watching millions of Christians
worship at the altar of the Synagogue of Satan —
a state that bans the Gospel, blasphemes Christ, and prepares to enthrone the Antichrist as their messiah.

This is not faithfulness.
This is sorcery.
This is apostasy.

You’re not “blessing Israel.”
You’re denying the King of it.

And Jesus warned us clearly:

“You do not hear Me… because you are not of God.”
— John 8:47

“My sheep hear My voice… and follow Me.”
— John 10:27

There is no dual covenant.
No separate path.
No racial clause.

There is One Shepherd. One Fold. One Gospel.
And anything else?

Accursed.
Paul said it twice.

Well I see you didn't answer my last question.. How about this question to you. What did Jesus mean in saying this in His John 17 prayer:?

John 17:10 (KJV) And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Well I see you didn't answer my last question.. How about this question to you. What did Jesus mean in saying this in His John 17 prayer:?

John 17:10 (KJV) And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

I'll address both your questions here...

You quoted Matthew 4:4. Good, let’s live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
But that means we don’t get to elevate one verse over the rest, twist it into a theology of inclusion for Christ-rejectors, or ignore the Word made flesh, the fullness of God’s voice, who clearly said:

“No one comes to the Father but by Me.” (John 14:6)
“He that rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” (Luke 10:16)
“If you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24)

Jesus didn’t stutter.
There is no path to the Father that bypasses Him.
Not before the Cross. Not after it.

So yes, Old Testament saints were saved, but not apart from Christ.
They were saved through faith in the promise of the Messiah to come.
The Cross works forward and backward; Christ’s blood is eternal, not bound by time.

“Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56)

“To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name whosoever believes in Him shall receive remission of sins.” (Acts 10:43)

No one, not Abraham, not Moses, not David—was saved apart from Christ.
They were saved because they believed God’s Word, which always pointed to Christ.
Now the Word has become flesh, and anyone who rejects Him today is without excuse.

“He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.” (John 5:23)

As for Matthew 22 and the two greatest commandments?
Yes—love God, love neighbor.
But how do you know God?
Only through the Son:

“No one knows the Father except the Son, and those to whom the Son reveals Him.” (Matthew 11:27)

So quoting commandments without bowing to Christ is empty.
Israel had the commandments and they still crucified Him.

You also brought up John 17:10, as if Jesus was saying everyone "of God" is saved.
But you cut off the prayer before it finished.

Jesus made it crystal clear:

“I pray not for the world, but for those whom You have given Me… for they are Yours.” (John 17:9)

“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word.” (John 17:20)

There it is:
Faith in Christ is the dividing line, always has been, always will be.
So when you suggest that people today, who reject Christ, ban the Gospel and await another messiah can still be “God’s chosen,” you're preaching another gospel.

And Paul already answered that:
“Even if an angel from heaven preaches another gospel… let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8)

This blasphemous, Scofield heresy that teaches a race-based alternate path to salvation is not faith.
It’s apostasy.
It exalts the flesh, denies the Cross, and blasphemes the Son.

There is no racial clause, no ethnic exception, no dual covenant.
There is one Shepherd, one Fold and one Gospel.

If righteousness comes through any other path—
then Christ died for nothing.

 

[Scott Downey]

I'll address both your questions here...

You quoted Matthew 4:4. Good, let’s live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
But that means we don’t get to elevate one verse over the rest, twist it into a theology of inclusion for Christ-rejectors, or ignore the Word made flesh, the fullness of God’s voice, who clearly said:

“No one comes to the Father but by Me.” (John 14:6)
“He that rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” (Luke 10:16)
“If you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24)

Jesus didn’t stutter.
There is no path to the Father that bypasses Him.
Not before the Cross. Not after it.

So yes, Old Testament saints were saved, but not apart from Christ.
They were saved through faith in the promise of the Messiah to come.
The Cross works forward and backward; Christ’s blood is eternal, not bound by time.

“Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56)

“To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name whosoever believes in Him shall receive remission of sins.” (Acts 10:43)

No one, not Abraham, not Moses, not David—was saved apart from Christ.
They were saved because they believed God’s Word, which always pointed to Christ.
Now the Word has become flesh, and anyone who rejects Him today is without excuse.

“He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.” (John 5:23)

As for Matthew 22 and the two greatest commandments?
Yes—love God, love neighbor.
But how do you know God?
Only through the Son:

“No one knows the Father except the Son, and those to whom the Son reveals Him.” (Matthew 11:27)

So quoting commandments without bowing to Christ is empty.
Israel had the commandments and they still crucified Him.

You also brought up John 17:10, as if Jesus was saying everyone "of God" is saved.
But you cut off the prayer before it finished.

Jesus made it crystal clear:

“I pray not for the world, but for those whom You have given Me… for they are Yours.” (John 17:9)

“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word.” (John 17:20)

There it is:
Faith in Christ is the dividing line, always has been, always will be.
So when you suggest that people today, who reject Christ, ban the Gospel and await another messiah can still be “God’s chosen,” you're preaching another gospel.

And Paul already answered that:
“Even if an angel from heaven preaches another gospel… let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8)

This blasphemous, Scofield heresy that teaches a race-based alternate path to salvation is not faith.
It’s apostasy.
It exalts the flesh, denies the Cross, and blasphemes the Son.

There is no racial clause, no ethnic exception, no dual covenant.
There is one Shepherd, one Fold and one Gospel.

If righteousness comes through any other path—
then Christ died for nothing.

John 1
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.

11 He came to His [c]own, and His [d]own did not receive Him.

12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the [e]right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Not our will, God's will be done.

 

[Cyd]

I'll address both your questions here...

You quoted Matthew 4:4. Good, let’s live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
But that means we don’t get to elevate one verse over the rest, twist it into a theology of inclusion for Christ-rejectors, or ignore the Word made flesh, the fullness of God’s voice, who clearly said:

“No one comes to the Father but by Me.” (John 14:6)
“He that rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” (Luke 10:16)
“If you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24)

Jesus didn’t stutter.
There is no path to the Father that bypasses Him.
Not before the Cross. Not after it.

So yes, Old Testament saints were saved, but not apart from Christ.
They were saved through faith in the promise of the Messiah to come.
The Cross works forward and backward; Christ’s blood is eternal, not bound by time.

“Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56)

“To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name whosoever believes in Him shall receive remission of sins.” (Acts 10:43)

No one, not Abraham, not Moses, not David—was saved apart from Christ.
They were saved because they believed God’s Word, which always pointed to Christ.
Now the Word has become flesh, and anyone who rejects Him today is without excuse.

“He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.” (John 5:23)

As for Matthew 22 and the two greatest commandments?
Yes—love God, love neighbor.
But how do you know God?
Only through the Son:

“No one knows the Father except the Son, and those to whom the Son reveals Him.” (Matthew 11:27)

So quoting commandments without bowing to Christ is empty.
Israel had the commandments and they still crucified Him.

You also brought up John 17:10, as if Jesus was saying everyone "of God" is saved.
But you cut off the prayer before it finished.

Jesus made it crystal clear:

“I pray not for the world, but for those whom You have given Me… for they are Yours.” (John 17:9)

“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word.” (John 17:20)

There it is:
Faith in Christ is the dividing line, always has been, always will be.
So when you suggest that people today, who reject Christ, ban the Gospel and await another messiah can still be “God’s chosen,” you're preaching another gospel.

And Paul already answered that:
“Even if an angel from heaven preaches another gospel… let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8)

This blasphemous, Scofield heresy that teaches a race-based alternate path to salvation is not faith.
It’s apostasy.
It exalts the flesh, denies the Cross, and blasphemes the Son.

There is no racial clause, no ethnic exception, no dual covenant.
There is one Shepherd, one Fold and one Gospel.

If righteousness comes through any other path—
then Christ died for nothing.

Thank you for answering the questions, it helps me get a better idea of your knowledge and beliefs. You hate Scofield and have judged him but do you know how many commentaries there are? Lots, do you have any you prefer? I don't know what Scofield taught but might have been bloodlines and pedigrees those are in scripture. Do you use any commentaries?