Owing to Aspens recent erroneous conclusion/argument that ...""if a dog is found to be homosexual, then certainly this proves that its natural for a human...""
I have to say that this secular bible rejecting pragmatists argument, coming from the heart and mouth of a politically corrected Catholic is , oddly enough, very commonly found on forums, and i'd like to address it briefly here.
Now, Aspen's conclusion that........."if sexual deviancy is found AT ALL or ANYWHERE in nature, then it must be natural for humans also", is the type of argument made by someone who is desperately trying to prove that the exception found in nature proves the rule as found in humans.
Aspen is trying to prove that homosexuality is natural/ normal for the homosexual, so he decided to postulate that, "as dogs are sometimes found to be homosexual in nature, then he has proof that its natural for homosexuality to exist in humans as natural".
That is to say, that "if we can find a isolated case of deviant sexuality in a jungle animal or domesticated animal then Aspen has found proof that homosexuality must exist in the "human being" as well.
Aspen is someone who is trying their very best to prove that the exception found in nature proves the rule for all.
And what do i mean by "exception"?.....Well, in nature among dogs, cats, pigs, trout...., homosexual sex acts can be found, but these are the exceptions and certainly rare......
Now, there are a lot of issues, a whole lot of problems with Aspen's theory that if poodles can commit homosexual sex acts in nature or in Aspen's foyer, then so be it the rule for the human race........
And the first problem with his theory occurs (when the fact that man is made in the image of God and a dog isnt.)... is omitted from the proof text he is using in his haste to prove the legitimacy of Homosexual behavior as "natural".
The second problem with connecting homosexuals with dogs is the fact that a dog does not intellectually understand they are committing an act of homosexual sex when they come in heat and just want to find any available situation to remedy their "drive"
Let me explain...
When an animal such as a dog or cat or ape or ox, comes into "season", and cant find a partner who is of the opposite sex, they will find whatever is handy to get relief..
Now, Aspen does not understand why this is happening, and concludes its because the animal is "gay"....but of course this is completely ridiculous.
Animals are looking to fulfill the 1st Law of Nature, which is to reproduce, and once they come into season, the Males are going to find a way to release their seed, and if no available female is around, they will under the pressure of their natural drive to reproduce, have sex with whatever they can find.
Later, science comes along and tries to redefine this misdirected urge to reproduce as "homosexual", which of course is not possible as an animal such as a dog does not understand intellectually their "act".......they just have a burning seasonal need to deposit seed and will.....wherever they can put it.
And your leg will do nicely if they can get you to cooperate.
So, does this make your leg "gay"?............how about the dog?
Only the politically programmed corrected like Aspen will try to create a psychology out of a dog's sex drive on your leg or with another of the same "gender", and impute it into the human race as an argument to promote homosexuality as "natural".
Now, compare all that to..... the person who is committing homosexual sex acts with their same gender, who understands that their reason for doing it has more then just the " sexual need" factor..
Whereas a dog or cat or pig or horse who is committing a homosexual act with the same gender, does not intellectually or morally comprehend that its unnatural, and just does it because of the seasonal drive at hand, a homosexual person is committing the same gender sex act for intellectual reasons as well as romantic and fantasy ......and of course sex drive compulsions.
Now, that you can find lower case animals committing homosexual sex acts in nature, ....does this make it "natural"?
Well if you realize the reason a jungle cat may commit a homosexual act, is strictly because of their extreme "seasonal drive" to reproduce and no suitable partner is found........so they make do with whatever works.
So THIS is the exception found IN nature, and this exception should never be used as a "proof" for an argument which supports "homosexuality" in humans as natural.
Same gender sex, homosexuality, is unnatural and immoral regarding humans, and should be viewed this way by all Christians.
Any other way to view it, is unnatural for a Christian and denies God's viewpoint.
Listen Saint.............that you can find an exception to the rule in nature or life does not even begin to suggest that this position has found its justification regarding what is "natural" as created to be so by God.
Understand?
For example..........a rapist is found in life, so, does that prove that rape is natural for a rapist?.
For example,.........a pedophile is found in nature, so does that prove that child molesting is natural for a pedophile?
For example..........a gun toting maniac can be found in nature shooting 12 dead in a theater, so does that prove that murder is natural in his case?
Well, according to Aspen's illogic that >>>>>>>>>"if a dog is gay (somewhere) in nature..... then we have PROOF that its natural for a human to be gay in nature,...so then the above 3 examples all fit Aspen's cracked logic like a steel nut fits a rusty bolt.
Saint, I hope your logic turns out to be more accurate and honest and "natural".
blessings,
K<><
I have to say that this secular bible rejecting pragmatists argument, coming from the heart and mouth of a politically corrected Catholic is , oddly enough, very commonly found on forums, and i'd like to address it briefly here.
Now, Aspen's conclusion that........."if sexual deviancy is found AT ALL or ANYWHERE in nature, then it must be natural for humans also", is the type of argument made by someone who is desperately trying to prove that the exception found in nature proves the rule as found in humans.
Aspen is trying to prove that homosexuality is natural/ normal for the homosexual, so he decided to postulate that, "as dogs are sometimes found to be homosexual in nature, then he has proof that its natural for homosexuality to exist in humans as natural".
That is to say, that "if we can find a isolated case of deviant sexuality in a jungle animal or domesticated animal then Aspen has found proof that homosexuality must exist in the "human being" as well.
Aspen is someone who is trying their very best to prove that the exception found in nature proves the rule for all.
And what do i mean by "exception"?.....Well, in nature among dogs, cats, pigs, trout...., homosexual sex acts can be found, but these are the exceptions and certainly rare......
Now, there are a lot of issues, a whole lot of problems with Aspen's theory that if poodles can commit homosexual sex acts in nature or in Aspen's foyer, then so be it the rule for the human race........
And the first problem with his theory occurs (when the fact that man is made in the image of God and a dog isnt.)... is omitted from the proof text he is using in his haste to prove the legitimacy of Homosexual behavior as "natural".
The second problem with connecting homosexuals with dogs is the fact that a dog does not intellectually understand they are committing an act of homosexual sex when they come in heat and just want to find any available situation to remedy their "drive"
Let me explain...
When an animal such as a dog or cat or ape or ox, comes into "season", and cant find a partner who is of the opposite sex, they will find whatever is handy to get relief..
Now, Aspen does not understand why this is happening, and concludes its because the animal is "gay"....but of course this is completely ridiculous.
Animals are looking to fulfill the 1st Law of Nature, which is to reproduce, and once they come into season, the Males are going to find a way to release their seed, and if no available female is around, they will under the pressure of their natural drive to reproduce, have sex with whatever they can find.
Later, science comes along and tries to redefine this misdirected urge to reproduce as "homosexual", which of course is not possible as an animal such as a dog does not understand intellectually their "act".......they just have a burning seasonal need to deposit seed and will.....wherever they can put it.
And your leg will do nicely if they can get you to cooperate.
So, does this make your leg "gay"?............how about the dog?
Only the politically programmed corrected like Aspen will try to create a psychology out of a dog's sex drive on your leg or with another of the same "gender", and impute it into the human race as an argument to promote homosexuality as "natural".
Now, compare all that to..... the person who is committing homosexual sex acts with their same gender, who understands that their reason for doing it has more then just the " sexual need" factor..
Whereas a dog or cat or pig or horse who is committing a homosexual act with the same gender, does not intellectually or morally comprehend that its unnatural, and just does it because of the seasonal drive at hand, a homosexual person is committing the same gender sex act for intellectual reasons as well as romantic and fantasy ......and of course sex drive compulsions.
Now, that you can find lower case animals committing homosexual sex acts in nature, ....does this make it "natural"?
Well if you realize the reason a jungle cat may commit a homosexual act, is strictly because of their extreme "seasonal drive" to reproduce and no suitable partner is found........so they make do with whatever works.
So THIS is the exception found IN nature, and this exception should never be used as a "proof" for an argument which supports "homosexuality" in humans as natural.
Same gender sex, homosexuality, is unnatural and immoral regarding humans, and should be viewed this way by all Christians.
Any other way to view it, is unnatural for a Christian and denies God's viewpoint.
Listen Saint.............that you can find an exception to the rule in nature or life does not even begin to suggest that this position has found its justification regarding what is "natural" as created to be so by God.
Understand?
For example..........a rapist is found in life, so, does that prove that rape is natural for a rapist?.
For example,.........a pedophile is found in nature, so does that prove that child molesting is natural for a pedophile?
For example..........a gun toting maniac can be found in nature shooting 12 dead in a theater, so does that prove that murder is natural in his case?
Well, according to Aspen's illogic that >>>>>>>>>"if a dog is gay (somewhere) in nature..... then we have PROOF that its natural for a human to be gay in nature,...so then the above 3 examples all fit Aspen's cracked logic like a steel nut fits a rusty bolt.
Saint, I hope your logic turns out to be more accurate and honest and "natural".
blessings,
K<><