Dreams visions from GOD, how do you know that ?

[PeterAndroz]

There are believers who claim they had/have dreams, visions or revelations from GOD.
How do they really know ?
Bahai founder claimed and believed he had them.
Mohammad as above
Ellen G White as above
Joseph Smith as above
4 'dreamers' that started their brand of religion which contradicts many teachings from The Bible

 

[Pearl]

I believe God has given me many special God dreams. Unlike ordinary dreams I always remember the God dreams and still can. And if I don't immediately understand their meaning I ask and He tells me what they mean. Most of them have been encouraging and show me how to trust Him. They are the sort of things that other people might also find helpful too.

 

[ScottA]

There are believers who claim they had/have dreams, visions or revelations from GOD.
How do they really know ?
Bahai founder claimed and believed he had them.
Mohammad as above
Ellen G White as above
Joseph Smith as above
4 'dreamers' that started their brand of religion which contradicts many teachings from The Bible

I answer as one with experience and who knows by God's confirmation.

There are many spirits, but only One is the spirit of God.

I was "caught up to the third heaven and heard words unlawful to utter." Which came before I even knew there was a god or God. But He who guides the steps of men, who makes manifest all things for His own purpose, brought me to the brink and to calling out to Him for no other reason than as a last resort. And He answered.

Which, if I had not called Him by name, or had He not arranged for me to have time and opportunity to read His word shortly thereafter--from cover to cover--wherein He then confirmed my encounter with Him to be God, but also that His word is true, as the Author of both...I could have, and would have easily passed off the whole experience as foolishness. So, He Himself caught me up in the spirit, and also confirmed just who He was without question, but with confirmations beyond number connecting all things, even everything leading up to and of my whole life.

But God has also sent evil men and armies to turn nations, promised strong delusion, and allowed false Priests among Israel and false teachers within the Church. All of which can only be truly known by the Spirit. Therefore, do not expect that there should be a way of knowing otherwise, or a proof which the ungodly (atheists) demand, but rather that God has set before us all life and death, blessing and cursing, that we each must choose. As it is written, this is the valley of decision.

 

[Bob]

Thank you for the post and question.

One way to test others’ dreams is to ask, “Are they consistent with Love Your Neighbor?”

One might also ask, “Are these dreams self-serving?”

Blessings.

 

[Anchorite]

There are believers who claim they had/have dreams, visions or revelations from GOD.
How do they really know ?
Bahai founder claimed and believed he had them.
Mohammad as above
Ellen G White as above
Joseph Smith as above
4 'dreamers' that started their brand of religion which contradicts many teachings from The Bible

I would recommend sticking to the written Word of God. Dreams and visions can be deceptive. To talk about them can be egotistic and can make others think they need to have dreams and visions.

All we need to know is in the Bible. That is our safest, most reliable source for spiritual information.

 

[shepherdsword]

There are believers who claim they had/have dreams, visions or revelations from GOD.
How do they really know ?
Bahai founder claimed and believed he had them.
Mohammad as above
Ellen G White as above
Joseph Smith as above
4 'dreamers' that started their brand of religion which contradicts many teachings from The Bible

You left out a few
Joseph of Jacob
Pharoah
Nebuchadnezzar
Joseph of Mary
The wise men

Job 33:15-18
In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man. He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.

 

[ScottA]

I would recommend sticking to the written Word of God. Dreams and visions can be deceptive. To talk about them can be egotistic and can make others think they need to have dreams and visions.

All we need to know is in the Bible. That is our safest, most reliable source for spiritual information.

Anch'

This is one of those "which is greater" topics that Jesus established as His own test (Matthew 23:13-36). In other words, Which is greater the Bible or the Spirit who inspired it?

The point being, by staying safely within the scriptures, we should be mindful to "Quench not the Spirit." Which Israel was scorned for regarding their knowledge of the word, when Jesus said, "Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered.”

But--when in doubt--absolutely stick with the written word of God!

 

[PeterAndroz]

I answer as one with experience and who knows by God's confirmation.

There are many spirits, but only One is the spirit of God.

I was "caught up to the third heaven and heard words unlawful to utter." Which came before I even knew there was a god or God. But He who guides the steps of men, who makes manifest all things for His own purpose, brought me to the brink and to calling out to Him for no other reason than as a last resort. And He answered.

Which, if I had not called Him by name, or had He not arranged for me to have time and opportunity to read His word shortly thereafter--from cover to cover--wherein He then confirmed my encounter with Him to be God, but also that His word is true, as the Author of both...I could have, and would have easily passed off the whole experience as foolishness. So, He Himself caught me up in the spirit, and also confirmed just who He was without question, but with confirmations beyond number connecting all things, even everything leading up to and of my whole life.

But God has also sent evil men and armies to turn nations, promised strong delusion, and allowed false Priests among Israel and false teachers within the Church. All of which can only be truly known by the Spirit. Therefore, do not expect that there should be a way of knowing otherwise, or a proof which the ungodly (atheists) demand, but rather that God has set before us all life and death, blessing and cursing, that we each must choose. As it is written, this is the valley of decision.

You've had an experience ?
Great, what was it and how did you KNOW it was from GOD and not 'something' else ?

 

[PeterAndroz]

Thank you for the post and question.

One way to test others’ dreams is to ask, “Are they consistent with Love Your Neighbor?”

One might also ask, “Are these dreams self-serving?”

Blessings.

Bob said “Are they consistent with Love Your Neighbor?”

I'm not Bahai but their faith is also VERY strong on that yet claims that Jesus was simply a manifestation and that their founder is the current one.
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[PeterAndroz]

You left out a few
Joseph of Jacob
Pharoah
Nebuchadnezzar
Joseph of Mary
The wise men

Job 33:15-18
In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man. He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.

When/if you have visions/dreams etc from GOD how do you SW know they are from GOD and not from 'something' else ?

 

[Rockerduck]

When/if you have visions/dreams etc from GOD how do you SW know they are from GOD and not from 'something' else ?

Jesus's sheep know His voice. Its the Holy Spirit within you whom Christ Jesus speaks to you. John 16:13. I'm a seer and most dreams are for me, not for the public. The night visions I have that pertain to the future, I write it down and post it in the dreams and visions forum and someone will read it and interpret it. Some are affirmations of our salvation that Jesus wants His own to know. From 3 yrs ago many visions have come true. I do not know what some dreams mean until after the event happens, then I can recognize what the dream was about. These aren't ground shaking dreams by any means. Not like the prophets to Israel, but Jesus gives them to me and I post them in the dreams and visions forum. There over there if you want to read them.

I've seen Jesus and angels and wrestled with Satan ( I didn't see him, he got me from behind) once and I saw the destruction of wars before the Ukraine war, then I start seeing it again, then Israel was attacked. I didn't see the Iran thing right now. If you asked me something humbly and unselfish, I'll pray to God for an answer, but not over an online forum, it must be personal and you have to a Christian/ Child of God that God knows your name. It does matter to me if you believe me or not, I will not argue the point.

 

[ScottA]

You've had an experience ?
Great, what was it and how did you KNOW it was from GOD and not 'something' else ?

I explained the "how did you KNOW" part above--no need to repeat it. But if you would like to read a brief explanation of the experience, you can see it here on the forum: My Testimony.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Jesus's sheep know His voice. Its the Holy Spirit within you whom Christ Jesus speaks to you. John 16:13. I'm a seer and most dreams are for me, not for the public. The night visions I have that pertain to the future, I write it down and post it in the dreams and visions forum and someone will read it and interpret it. Some are affirmations of our salvation that Jesus wants His own to know. From 3 yrs ago many visions have come true. I do not know what some dreams mean until after the event happens, then I can recognize what the dream was about. These aren't ground shaking dreams by any means. Not like the prophets to Israel, but Jesus gives them to me and I post them in the dreams and visions forum. There over there if you want to read them.

I've seen Jesus and angels and wrestled with Satan ( I didn't see him, he got me from behind) once and I saw the destruction of wars before the Ukraine war, then I start seeing it again, then Israel was attacked. I didn't see the Iran thing right now. If you asked me something humbly and unselfish, I'll pray to God for an answer, but not over an online forum, it must be personal and you have to a Christian/ Child of God that God knows your name. It does matter to me if you believe me or not, I will not argue the point.

RD said Jesus's sheep know His voice. Its the Holy Spirit within you whom Christ Jesus speaks to you. John 16:13.
Explain why the Bahai founder TRULY believed GOD spoke to him

 

[PeterAndroz]

I explained the "how did you KNOW" part above--no need to repeat it. But if you would like to read a brief explanation of the experience, you can see it here on the forum: My Testimony.

How did you KNOW ?
Response ""There are many spirits, but only One is the spirit of God.""
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If a dream/vision/experience does NOT contradict the teachings of the Bible then it's safe to assume it was somehow from GOD
But if the d/v/e even slightly causes a person to believe differently from what the Bible teaches then that is enough evidence to show the d/v/e though allowed by GOD was instead from 'something' else.
People who then sell/profit from their d/v/e's are even higher on the suspicion scale.
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The Bahai founder believed and " knew " that GOD spoke to him too but we understand from what the Bible teaches that whatever he experienced though ALLOWED by GOD was not from GOD
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[shepherdsword]

When/if you have visions/dreams etc from GOD how do you SW know they are from GOD and not from 'something' else ?

Jn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

 

[PeterAndroz]

Jn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Many have been fooled by the 'deceiver'
1 John 4: is the test.
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

 

[ScottA]

How did you KNOW ?
Response ""There are many spirits, but only One is the spirit of God.""
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If a dream/vision/experience does NOT contradict the teachings of the Bible then it's safe to assume it was somehow from GOD
But if the d/v/e even slightly causes a person to believe differently from what the Bible teaches then that is enough evidence to show the d/v/e though allowed by GOD was instead from 'something' else.
People who then sell/profit from their d/v/e's are even higher on the suspicion scale.
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The Bahai founder believed and " knew " that GOD spoke to him too but we understand from what the Bible teaches that whatever he experienced though ALLOWED by GOD was not from GOD
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You are basing your reason on your own interpretation of the Bible, that is "leaning on your own understanding." Meaning your method itself is not biblical.

Men are not to confirm what is true from God or not (making themselves out to be God), but the Spirit.

 

[MatthewG]

I don't just go around believing what people say.

That's my advice. Some say if you dont have these things you might not just be so special.

I think that is dangerous.

Thankfully it's not gifts or anything that save you. It's the healing of the heart, towards God than a hard heart that is turning away from him.

F'aith in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus, by the Holy Spirit of God on the third day.

I never read that the Spirit of Christ causes people to have "God Dreams."


But I do believe God can reach people in all places even dreams perhaps. Perhaps calling to them to turn toward him to live by the Spirt of Christ.

 

[Rockerduck]

How did you KNOW ?
Response ""There are many spirits, but only One is the spirit of God.""
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If a dream/vision/experience does NOT contradict the teachings of the Bible then it's safe to assume it was somehow from GOD
But if the d/v/e even slightly causes a person to believe differently from what the Bible teaches then that is enough evidence to show the d/v/e though allowed by GOD was instead from 'something' else.
People who then sell/profit from their d/v/e's are even higher on the suspicion scale.
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The Bahai founder believed and " knew " that GOD spoke to him too but we understand from what the Bible teaches that whatever he experienced though ALLOWED by GOD was not from GOD
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John 16:13-15

 

[shepherdsword]

Many have been fooled by the 'deceiver'
1 John 4: is the test.
1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

What did you think Abraham thought when God told him to sacrifice Isaac? Even though this went against every prior promise God had given him? What would have been your council to Abraham if he confided in you and ask your advice about this? Would you have said it was not the voice of God?