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In the beginning; there were no dress codes and the people thought nothing
of it.

Gen 2:25 . .The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no
shame.

Then came the forbidden fruit incident wherein the people of a sudden felt
different about their appearance in the buff and covered their pelvic ar
as with rudimentary loin cloths.

Gen 3:7 . . At that moment, their eyes were opened, and they suddenly
felt shame at their nakedness. So they strung fig leaves together around
their hips to cover themselves.

( Apparently Eve remained topless at first; and in some primitive areas even
today, the women still are.)

To my knowledge, God has yet to condemn full frontal nudity; so this
sudden awareness of their appearance didn't come from Him. In other
words; their new attitude about the human body wasn't divine, rather, it was
cultural: and even today, many years later, the world's dress codes remain
cultural.


NOTE: Nudist colonies and clothing optional beaches aren't evil per se where
they are legal. When people condemn those places as sinful and indecent;
they display the effects of the forbidden fruit incident at work in their minds.
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Jesus's young cousin John lived rough in the wilderness and didn't bother with any dress code..:)
Jesus's verdict on him- "John is the greatest man ever to be born of woman" (Matt 11:11)

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Below: John in action against Herod-

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To my knowledge, God has yet to condemn full frontal nudity
So why did God sacrifice animals to cover the nudity of Adam and Eve? Evidently your "knowledge" about this matter is rather sketchy.

Speaking of dress codes, God very definitely laid out dress codes for his priests. And since His children are regarded by Him as "kings and priests" it follows that Christians do need dress codes and indeed Scripture tells them what is acceptable and what is not. "Love not the world, neither THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE WORLD".
 

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My parents were obsessed with appearance, for example as a kid whenever I went out my mother would say "Spruce yourself up and comb your hair, it's sticking up on top like a cockatoo".
Even now 60 years later I can't help looking sideways at my reflection in shop windows to see if it's still sticking up..:)

Our schoolteachers were just as obsessed, Pearson the english teacher used to say "Boys, always keep your shoes polished because as you go through life you'll notice people's eyes going down to your shoes because they're judging your character by how well they're polished"
 
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My parents were obsessed with appearance...
Whether we like it or not appearances are important, and first impressions are formed within seconds of seeing someone. A well-groomed person reflects a disciplined personality, whereas a sloppy appearance reflects a sloppy mind.
 
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So why did God sacrifice animals to cover the nudity of Adam and Eve?

Gen 3:21 . . And the Lord God made garments of skins for Adam and his
wife, and clothed them.

Precisely what species of animal God slaughtered in order to make the
Adams their first suit of real clothing is unknown.

That day, people learned something about the advantages of leather goods.
Most of it is produced from cattle hides: calfskin, goatskin, kidskin,
sheepskin, and lambskin. Other hides and skins used include those of the
horse, pig, kangaroo, deer, crocodile, alligator, seal, walrus, and of late;
python. Humans have used animal skins for a variety of practical purposes
since ancient times, and to this good day leather is still a useful material all
around the world.

The exact cut and design of their garments isn't specified; the Hebrew words
kethoneth (keth-o'-neth) and/or kuttoneth (koot-to'-neth) just indicate a
shirt, or covering; as hanging from the shoulder.

A garment hanging from the shoulder indicates that Eve's topless days were
over; although that wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility that she may
have become the Gabrielle "Coco" Chanel of her day and created some
interesting necklines.

The garments actually facilitated the people's association with God. They
were unbearably uncomfortable around their maker in the buff, even in the
semi-buff, and that was principally the reason they hid from The Lord when
He came calling. However, fig leaves aren't very durable; they're merely an
expedient. God showed them a much better way-- actually a way they would
never have thought of all by themselves because who would have guessed
that animals could be killed and stripped of their hides for clothing until God
showed them?

The point to note is that the clothing that humanity's maker crafted for the
Adams didn't cost them one red cent nor did they have to contribute even
the slightest bit of labor to its construction. God slaughtered the animals,
treated the hides, and fabricated the garments Himself; and gave the
clothing to them totally free of charge and no strings attached. However, I
wouldn't be a bit surprised if the couple watched how God went about the
whole business so they'd know how to take care of themselves.


NOTE: They'd eventually have to know how to make fire; no doubt God
showed them how to do that too.

I believe God went to all that trouble for a couple of reasons.

First; because He wasn't indifferent to their situation; rather, God felt
compassion for the Adams-- defined as sympathetic awareness of others'
distress together with a desire to alleviate it. And secondly; He didn't want
anything hampering His association with them. In other words, Adam's felt
shame and embarrassment over undress was a barrier between himself and
his maker, so God showed him a really good way to overcome it: a way that
not only improved the quality of Adam's association with God; but also
greatly enhanced his limited survival skills.


Speaking of dress codes, God very definitely laid out dress codes for his
priests.

To my knowledge, God has yet to condemn full frontal nudity.


Evidently your "knowledge" about this matter is rather sketchy.

It's none of my business how you conduct yourself in view of the world wide
web, but I highly recommend that you not use inflammatory remarks with
people lest the hapless day arrive when you are forced to eat them.
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As far as I care about this topic (which isn't very much) there are only two reasons to wear any clothes ever at all:

1) You feel cold.
2) You look better with them, than without them.

God knows exactly what we look like, naked, and doesn't seem to care one jot. So this idea of dress codes for religious reasons is a matter of cultural sensibility, not God ordained discipline.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 

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2 My brothers and sisters, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. 2 For if a man comes into your [a]assembly with a gold ring and is dressed in bright clothes, and a poor man in dirty clothes also comes in, 3 and you [b]pay special attention to the one who is wearing the bright clothes, and say, “You sit here in a good place,” and you say to the poor man, “You stand over there, or sit down by my footstool,” 4 have you not made distinctions among yourselves, and become judges with evil [c]motives?
 

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Whether we like it or not appearances are important, and first impressions are formed within seconds of seeing someone. A well-groomed person reflects a disciplined personality, whereas a sloppy appearance reflects a sloppy mind.

I like the 'casual but neat approach' myself, i've never owned a suit and don't want one..:)
 

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As far as I care about this topic (which isn't very much) there are only two reasons to wear any clothes ever at all:

1) You feel cold.
2) You look better with them, than without them.
To that, I'd add:
3) Modesty

Modesty is not only what is commonly thought of but it includes not sexually flaunting yourself.
 
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To that, I'd add:
3) Modesty

Modesty is not only what is commonly thought of but it includes not sexually flaunting yourself.
What’s with the modesty thing? Modesty tends to be culturally defined. Observing the ‘modest’ teenage girls at our church, they definitely dress as BAIT! That the way God designed them, and the way God made men to respond to the bait. It’s an awesome plan!

With regard to Adam and Eve being covered with skins, it was symbolic of the law of atonement which ‘covered’ our sin from God’s view. To ‘cover’ the sins of Adam and Eve, shedding of blood was required to provide that covering.
 

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So why did God sacrifice animals to cover the nudity of Adam and Eve? Evidently your "knowledge" about this matter is rather sketchy.

Speaking of dress codes, God very definitely laid out dress codes for his priests. And since His children are regarded by Him as "kings and priests" it follows that Christians do need dress codes and indeed Scripture tells them what is acceptable and what is not. "Love not the world, neither THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE WORLD".
so how do you want to dress? according to what is currently acceptable? isn't that the world?......and the dress codes of the Priests.....every aspect was symbolic.

The dress code at my place is dependant on the weather which is hot and or wet. You wanna make laws about that?

Shame and nakedness of the body is a coupling men have made, specifically religious men or are you ashamed of your wiener which incidentally was Gods design and construction?
 
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Gen 3:21 . . And the Lord God made garments of skins for Adam and his
wife, and clothed them.

Precisely what species of animal God slaughtered in order to make the
Adams their first suit of real clothing is unknown.

That day, people learned something about the advantages of leather goods.
Most of it is produced from cattle hides: calfskin, goatskin, kidskin,
sheepskin, and lambskin. Other hides and skins used include those of the
horse, pig, kangaroo, deer, crocodile, alligator, seal, walrus, and of late;
python. Humans have used animal skins for a variety of practical purposes
since ancient times, and to this good day leather is still a useful material all
around the world.

The exact cut and design of their garments isn't specified; the Hebrew words
kethoneth (keth-o'-neth) and/or kuttoneth (koot-to'-neth) just indicate a
shirt, or covering; as hanging from the shoulder.

A garment hanging from the shoulder indicates that Eve's topless days were
over; although that wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility that she may
have become the Gabrielle "Coco" Chanel of her day and created some
interesting necklines.

The garments actually facilitated the people's association with God. They
were unbearably uncomfortable around their maker in the buff, even in the
semi-buff, and that was principally the reason they hid from The Lord when
He came calling. However, fig leaves aren't very durable; they're merely an
expedient. God showed them a much better way-- actually a way they would
never have thought of all by themselves because who would have guessed
that animals could be killed and stripped of their hides for clothing until God
showed them?

The point to note is that the clothing that humanity's maker crafted for the
Adams didn't cost them one red cent nor did they have to contribute even
the slightest bit of labor to its construction. God slaughtered the animals,
treated the hides, and fabricated the garments Himself; and gave the
clothing to them totally free of charge and no strings attached. However, I
wouldn't be a bit surprised if the couple watched how God went about the
whole business so they'd know how to take care of themselves.


NOTE: They'd eventually have to know how to make fire; no doubt God
showed them how to do that too.

I believe God went to all that trouble for a couple of reasons.

First; because He wasn't indifferent to their situation; rather, God felt
compassion for the Adams-- defined as sympathetic awareness of others'
distress together with a desire to alleviate it. And secondly; He didn't want
anything hampering His association with them. In other words, Adam's felt
shame and embarrassment over undress was a barrier between himself and
his maker, so God showed him a really good way to overcome it: a way that
not only improved the quality of Adam's association with God; but also
greatly enhanced his limited survival skills.



To my knowledge, God has yet to condemn full frontal nudity.




It's none of my business how you conduct yourself in view of the world wide
web, but I highly recommend that you not use inflammatory remarks with
people lest the hapless day arrive when you are forced to eat them.
_
Did Jesus need to grow and harvest grapes before he turned water into wine? or grow a barley field and go fishing before he multiplied the loves and fishes?
It is our assumption God killed an animal to cloth Adam and Eve. I think the assumption is in error. God can make skins (coverings) at a word just as he can make wine or loaves and fishes......and why the assumption that 'skins' means a product from an animal?

God forgives, what? as a trade? ie, he gives us something if and when we give him something? I don't think so. God's forgiveness is a gift....and to underscore the word 'gift' we are told it is a free gift. Consider the implications.

The coverings supplied to A&E where God's gift for their shame. By the way, the covering was not just for the genitals, that's our construct, it was for their whole reality. It was a symbol of forgiveness. Their shame was their sin not the exposure of their reproductive organs. Sin shifted their relationship with God emotionally and spiritually and their own attempt to hide (cover themselves) firstly with leaves and then with blaming the other was evidently inadequate.
 

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I like the 'casual but neat approach' myself, i've never owned a suit and don't want one..:)
I worked for a company that was known for its strict dress code. When I got an infected spider bite on my left foot, my doctor told me not to enclose the foot so it could heal. So, I wore flip-flops (sandals) with my dress slacks, white shirt, and tie to work. Boss called me into his office, tersely reminded me of the company dress code, wanted to know what the hell I was doing showing up at the office in flip-flops. I showed him the doctor's written orders. (Sheesh, he could see for himself the beet-red swelling and oozing pus on the foot.) He was going to send me home on sick-leave (at least I would've been paid), but he couldn't spare me, so we ended up compromising: I wore a dress shoe on my right foot, and a flip-flop on the left. Really.

Forty years later, I do have a suit, but I only wear it for weddings, funerals, and resurrections (i.e. Easter Sunday church service).
 
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I worked for a company that was known for its strict dress code...

A boss here in England a year or two ago was in the news by insisting his female employees wore shoes with a bit of a heel rather than the flats they used to turn up in, and I think i sympathise with him because flats look absolutely terrible..;)
 

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A boss here in England a year or two ago was in the news by insisting his female employees wore shoes with a bit of a heel rather than the flats they used to turn up in, and I think i sympathise with him because flats look absolutely terrible..;)
High heels are designed to shift how the body aligns upright and thereby accentuating the breasts and the buttocks :)
Still in favour of heels?
 
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