Hi XP,
As far as I can tell, your last post was to me. Could I ask you to address your posts to the person you are speaking to, please, even though you already know that a) I may not answer and B) someone else may answer anyway?
It being stupid o'clock here, I will focus on a point which seems to have confused you.
You mentioned God and I mentioned God. We are talking about the same God; that is, the one who created the universe and mankind. God is not a term synonymous with the term CHURCH. God was here before anything, and the Bible talks of church in two contexts - the Hebrews who were called out of Egypt, and, the church Jesus Christ promised to build.
What I was trying to communicate to you is the idea (you will discover for yourself if you do the math) that the knowledge of God on the earth, especially up until the fall of Jerusalem to Nebuchadnezzar, was an open secret.
Micah 5:7 And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the LORD, as the showers upon the grass, that tarriea not for man, nor waita for the sons of men.
Ezekiel 11:16 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.
Isaiah 44:28 That saith of Cyrus, [He is] my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.
Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation to the end of the earth. Acts 13:47,48
Without doubt, historically, marriage was a family affair, not a church affair.
Regarding the involvement of the 'State' in providing a legal framework in which to register marriages, in what way can the State have more power than God, seeing He ordains every authority on earth, for His own purposes, regardless of how well or how badly they run things on His behalf? Christians have no permission to flout civil law.
Daniel 4:17 This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomsoever he will, and sets up over it the basest of men.
I'm not sure if there was another question specifically to me, but please repeat it if it's not been answered yet? Thanks. I do realise you may not agree with, or understand why I chose the above verses, but they are a start towards understanding why, in the later years, despite Israel having the law, knowledge of God was still abroad in the earth.
Jeremiah 40:2 And the captain of the guard took Jeremiah, and said to him, The LORD thy God has pronounced this evil upon this place.
As far as I can tell, your last post was to me. Could I ask you to address your posts to the person you are speaking to, please, even though you already know that a) I may not answer and B) someone else may answer anyway?
It being stupid o'clock here, I will focus on a point which seems to have confused you.
You mentioned God and I mentioned God. We are talking about the same God; that is, the one who created the universe and mankind. God is not a term synonymous with the term CHURCH. God was here before anything, and the Bible talks of church in two contexts - the Hebrews who were called out of Egypt, and, the church Jesus Christ promised to build.
What I was trying to communicate to you is the idea (you will discover for yourself if you do the math) that the knowledge of God on the earth, especially up until the fall of Jerusalem to Nebuchadnezzar, was an open secret.
Micah 5:7 And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew from the LORD, as the showers upon the grass, that tarriea not for man, nor waita for the sons of men.
Ezekiel 11:16 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.
Isaiah 44:28 That saith of Cyrus, [He is] my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.
Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation to the end of the earth. Acts 13:47,48
Without doubt, historically, marriage was a family affair, not a church affair.
Regarding the involvement of the 'State' in providing a legal framework in which to register marriages, in what way can the State have more power than God, seeing He ordains every authority on earth, for His own purposes, regardless of how well or how badly they run things on His behalf? Christians have no permission to flout civil law.
Daniel 4:17 This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomsoever he will, and sets up over it the basest of men.
I'm not sure if there was another question specifically to me, but please repeat it if it's not been answered yet? Thanks. I do realise you may not agree with, or understand why I chose the above verses, but they are a start towards understanding why, in the later years, despite Israel having the law, knowledge of God was still abroad in the earth.
Jeremiah 40:2 And the captain of the guard took Jeremiah, and said to him, The LORD thy God has pronounced this evil upon this place.