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And have you check the validity of the translation of G:4578 being translated as "earthquake" as G:4579 is the Greek root generally associated with people shaking or the earth shaking as in an earthquake.

Perhaps, if you could prove the validity of your understanding of Matt 24:7, then I might just happen to accept your counsel, but from my research into the same scripture, I believe that it is better understood to have the meaning of "turmoil."

Have a good day, now.
 

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And have you check the validity of the translation of G:4578 being translated as "earthquake" as G:4579 is the Greek root generally associated with people shaking or the earth shaking as in an earthquake.

Perhaps, if you could prove the validity of your understanding of Matt 24:7, then I might just happen to accept your counsel, but from my research into the same scripture, I believe that it is better understood to have the meaning of "turmoil."

Have a good day, now.

Thank you Jay Ross

Remember:
The testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. You know that the letter kills, the Spirit gives life. My work is to confirm the prophecies of our Lord JESUS.

See, the post 01 was opened by Davin Wintch at Dec.17, 2020.

I replied it by my post 10 at Tuesday at 1:20 AM, Dec.29, 2020, hours later occurred a strong earthquake in Croatia, as follow:

Magnitude 6.4 Earthquake in Croatia
A magnitude 6.4 earthquake struck near Petrinja, Croatia, about 30 miles southeast of the capital of Zagreb, on December 29, 2020 at about 6:20 am Eastern
Time (12:20 pm local time).
This is the largest earthquake to occur in Croatia since the advent of modern seismic instruments. An earthquake of similar size occurred in 1880 near Zagreb...

Again: The testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. You know that the letter kills, the Spirit gives life.
By my post 11 i confirmed the prophecies of our Lord JESUS about: Earthquakes in divers places: There was one in Turkey days ago, and today(Dec.29,2020) in Croatia, as is written above;

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Remember: Our Lord JESUS Christ left very clear saying:
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

It doesn't matter JESUS being invisible for now, we - His people - know that nothing prevents Him from executing His Word, Word of Truth. Matt.24:v.7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Pestilences: It is already fulfilling LITERALLY;

Earthquakes in divers places: There was one in Turkey days ago, and today(Dec. 29,2020) in Croatia; there will be more earthquakes in the days to come elsewhere, even in the USA, or Argentina, or Greece, or Italy, to wound to death one of the 7 heads of the Beast, and also be repeated in the same places as Turkey and Croatia to increase the destruction.

Famines: From now on this terrible problem will go to get worse, exceedingly;

Nation against nation: It is starting right now and it will get worse over time.

The Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him exclusively), and LORD of lords

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In the other hand, I must tell that the day 01-01-2021 is the FIRST day of the LAST DECADE of the world of Devil.
 

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THE LAST DECADE

01-01-2021 was/is the FIRST day of the last decade of this world, the world of Devil.
 

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Perhaps you should be associating earthquakes with Romans 8:22: - For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

Yes, I once was following the number of earthquakes greater than 5 on the Ricker Scale and for many years the number of earthquakes above 5 were relatively low, but in the last few decades the number of earthquakes per year above 5 has increased significantly, but the earthquakes are a sign of the earth actually heating up and the earth's crust's faults giving way to allow the earth to rebalance all of the forces operating with the earth heating up.

It is like a steel pressure vessel, as the internal pressure rises, so the dislocation in the steel plate from which it is made creaks and groans as the stresses in the steel shell of the vessel increases and the dislocations move, ever so slightly until the stress in the shell causes the streel plate to rupture where the dislocation in the steel material to congregate together at a stress riser such that the steel plate from which the pressure vessel is made fails. Where the vessel contains a gaseous fluid, the failure will be catastrophic and the vessel will peel open and even "fly" as the stored energy dissipates. However, when the pressure vessel is filled with a liquid fluid, the failure is not as catastrophic as with a gaseous fluid and the liquid fluid seeps out of the developing cracks and the pressure in the pressure vessel dissipates very rapidly.

The earth is like a pressure vessel filled with a liquid, in the earth's case, a very hot fluid, called lava, and the lava escapes through the earth's crust to form volcanos, generally along the earth's fault lines.

The Mt Olivet discourse on the signs that will be seen are associated with what will happen to, and because of, the people when the signs occur.

The evidences in your above post does not prove the point that you are trying to make but from my understanding, where Greek words have the embedded Greek root word G:4578, the context of the text is best when we paraphrase them in the English translations as "turmoil."

Have you ever see an earthquake in a fluid? It is physically impossible for an earthquake to occur in a fluid, but the same Greek word is translated as "earthquake" in this list were this Greek word occurs except for the first occurrence: - Matthew 8:24, 28:2, Acts 16:26, Revelation 6:12, 11:13, 11:19, 16:18, 16:18. In Matthew 8:24, Jesus and the disciples were in boat on the Lake of Galilei and the tempest blowing was causing turmoil in the waters of the lake and the boat was in grave danger of being sunk by the turmoil in the water. That was what the disciples were afraid of and not the wind causing the wave action. If the translators were going to be consistent, then they needed to use a very different English word to describe what was occurring. The same English word can be used for these three occurrences in Matthew 24:7, Mark 13:8 and Luke 21:11 which also have G:4578 embedded in them. For me that English Word is "Turmoil."

So far you have not convinced me that your understanding is believable.

Have a good day, sir.
 

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Perhaps you should be associating earthquakes with Romans 8:22: - For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

Yes, I once was following the number of earthquakes greater than 5 on the Ricker Scale and for many years the number of earthquakes above 5 were relatively low, but in the last few decades the number of earthquakes per year above 5 has increased significantly, but the earthquakes are a sign of the earth actually heating up and the earth's crust's faults giving way to allow the earth to rebalance all of the forces operating with the earth heating up.

It is like a steel pressure vessel, as the internal pressure rises, so the dislocation in the steel plate from which it is made creaks and groans as the stresses in the steel shell of the vessel increases and the dislocations move, ever so slightly until the stress in the shell causes the streel plate to rupture where the dislocation in the steel material to congregate together at a stress riser such that the steel plate from which the pressure vessel is made fails. Where the vessel contains a gaseous fluid, the failure will be catastrophic and the vessel will peel open and even "fly" as the stored energy dissipates. However, when the pressure vessel is filled with a liquid fluid, the failure is not as catastrophic as with a gaseous fluid and the liquid fluid seeps out of the developing cracks and the pressure in the pressure vessel dissipates very rapidly.

The earth is like a pressure vessel filled with a liquid, in the earth's case, a very hot fluid, called lava, and the lava escapes through the earth's crust to form volcanos, generally along the earth's fault lines.

The Mt Olivet discourse on the signs that will be seen are associated with what will happen to, and because of, the people when the signs occur.

The evidences in your above post does not prove the point that you are trying to make but from my understanding, where Greek words have the embedded Greek root word G:4578, the context of the text is best when we paraphrase them in the English translations as "turmoil."

Have you ever see an earthquake in a fluid? It is physically impossible for an earthquake to occur in a fluid, but the same Greek word is translated as "earthquake" in this list were this Greek word occurs except for the first occurrence: - Matthew 8:24, 28:2, Acts 16:26, Revelation 6:12, 11:13, 11:19, 16:18, 16:18. In Matthew 8:24, Jesus and the disciples were in boat on the Lake of Galilei and the tempest blowing was causing turmoil in the waters of the lake and the boat was in grave danger of being sunk by the turmoil in the water. That was what the disciples were afraid of and not the wind causing the wave action. If the translators were going to be consistent, then they needed to use a very different English word to describe what was occurring. The same English word can be used for these three occurrences in Matthew 24:7, Mark 13:8 and Luke 21:11 which also have G:4578 embedded in them. For me that English Word is "Turmoil."

So far you have not convinced me that your understanding is believable.

Have a good day, sir.

Oh please, Jay, the Lord JESUS was not speaking of TURMOIL unto his disciples, but of specific and divers earthquakes, which must happen in divers places in the current time of the END of the world of Devil, whose earthquakes are similar to the follow example:

Matthew 27:v.50-54:
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the Spirit.

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom;
and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
 

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Oh please, Jay, the Lord JESUS was not speaking of TURMOIL unto his disciples, but of specific and divers earthquakes, which must happen in divers places in the current time of the END of the world of Devil, whose earthquakes are similar to the follow example:

Matthew 27:v.50-54:
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the Spirit.

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom;
and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

So be it. Your understanding and wisdom goes before you. I have told you enough times, but you will not listen.

Goodbye
 

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So be it. Your understanding and wisdom goes before you. I have told you enough times, but you will not listen.

Goodbye

What prevails is the Word of God. The Word is God.

There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word
- the Word made flesh -, and the Holy Spirit (who is not a Ghost as is written in English language, but a Person): and these three are One.

Your thinking is from a human perspective, not from God’s perspective!

Anyway

Goodbye