- Jan 2, 2017
- United States
"True" Apostolic Tradition encompasses only the "Gospels"??Well then rustle up two more and let's see what they have to say! While we are at it we can ask them if Jewish fasts that are called for 3 days and 3 nights can include partial days. That's what Ester called for. I don't think you are going to win that point.
If you want to go to true apostolic tradition (the gospels) I am game!
You bring to the table "it's common knowledge it's an idiom". When did any Apostle say that or any theologian in the 1st century? The earliest date I can find is between 1546 and 1555. I, on the other hand, brought to the table a Rabbi. I would think he may know something about HIS history and HIS traditions and HIS idioms.
You want to say he is just a 21st century quarterback who is espousing his own opinions, then so be it. At least I brought something beyond "common knowledge" which hasn't been proved.
Never said they did. I am not saying they didn't either. But I am saying that it is wrong.
WHO told you that?? Certainly NOT the Bible.
The Bible itself defies Apostolic Tradition as everything the Apostles taught WHETHER BY an oral statement - OR BY a letter of theirs (2 Thess. 2:15). Whoever told you it was "just" the Gospels LIED to you.
As for Esther's request for a fast from the people - this was NOT an "official" Jewish fast based on the Law - but a prayerful request. According to the Senior Researcher (Rich Robinson) at "Jews For Jesus", it states that this time frame does NOT necessarily mean 3 24-hour periods.
According to Jewish Christian scholar David Baron of "Messianicgoodnews.org":
"The expression, “three days and three nights,” is an Old Testament idiom carried over into the New Testament, and means not necessarily three whole days and three whole nights, but in round numbers a period of about three days."
"According to Jewish law, part of the day stands for the whole, for “if a day has been once entered in, even for a few minutes, the whole twenty-four hours were reckoned to the person who had so entered on the day.” If a child is born in the last hour or even in the last few minutes of a day, it is counted as a whole day of the period of the time within which he must be circumcised."
So, there you have it - 2 eminent Protestant scholars and 2 Jewish scholars to YOUR 1 Rabbi.