End Time Deceptions

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shturt678s

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One of the greatest deceptions embraced by the church is the ideology of the rapture.

My prayer is NOT that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
- Jesus quoted by John 17:15

Jesus said those words quoted above and it was Jesus' intent to ask the Father to protect Christians, not evacuate them when things got dicey.
The gospel is a message of hope embraced by men of courage, not an easy out for cowards. But that is exactly that which is espoused by the rapture lie.

Which part of NOT does the reader NOT understand?

John Nelson Darby invented the rapture scenario in mid-19th century America. Not only is the argument non-Biblical, it is as American as baseball. It is said that though figures don't lie, liars can figure. The same is true for quotations of scripture used as slogans to justify a lie.

Following a successful promotion of it in his books, it was accepted by C.J. Scofield for his publication of his chain reference Bible. The two men together led America's Christians down a long deceitful road of fakery, illusion and cowardice. It doesn't matter at all to most Protestant Christians that Mr. Darby was the consort of witches. They are as enamored of the rapture idea as Trekkies are with the adventures of Captain Kirk.

But are the words of Darby more to be accepted than the words of Jesus Christ? To read the rubbish published supporting Darby's illusion one would be convinced this is true. Apparently Jesus didn't know what He was talking about. Is the twenty first century Christian concerned with truth spoken by Jesus or lies published by a witchified self-proclaimed prophet of the 19th century?

Which part of NOT does the reader not understand?

Chose your savior, Christian. You cannot have it both ways.

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
Thank you for your response and caring! Great!

Only sharing.....when we take a stand on something that we feel strongly about, we need to dot our iees and cross our tees of course. Mr. Darby "developed" the rapture scenario.

The issue I have with the "Rapture" theory is that it not only unintentionally perverts Scriptures which is bad enough, but projects the forever warnings out of touch from us today, viz. the "hypergrace" of today.

Old Jack's opinion
John S said:
So true. The pre-Trib Rapture IS one of Satan's greatest deceptions.
Brother John good to hear your voice again!

A great deception, yes, however I feel fallacious interpretations of our Lord's grace...."Faith" is pretty bad also along with too many not having a love for God's truth in the Church.

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Truths of the Final Age
2 Timothy 3:1-17 Remember, the final age of this world is to be a time of turmoil! People will love nothing but self and money, they will be boastful, arrogant and abusive. Disobedient to parents, devoid of gratitude, piety and natural affection. They will be uncontrolled in their violence, hating all goodness, perfidious, foolhardy and self important. They will love their pleasures more than their God. While preserving the outward form of religion, actually, they deny its power. Have nothing to do with them.
Persecution will indeed come to everyone who wants to lead a godly life as a follower of Christ Jesus, while evil doers and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But for your part, stand by the truths you have learned and are assured of, because you are familiar with the Holy scriptures which have the power to make you wise and lead you into salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
All inspired scripture has its use for teaching the truth, refuting error and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be capable and equipped for good works of every kind.

2 Timothy 4:1-5 Before God and before Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, I charge you solemnly by His coming appearing and Millennial reign – to proclaim the gospel, press it home, in season and out of season, use argument, reproof and encouragement with all the patience that teaching requires.
For the time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will follow his own ideas and will gather crowds to hear whatever they fancy. They will stop their
ears to the truth and turn aside to myths.
But, you must keep your head whatever happens; put up with hardship, work to spread the gospel and discharge all the duties of your calling.
1 Timothy 1:3-11 I asked you, Timothy, to instruct certain people to refrain from teaching erroneous doctrines and devoting themselves to interminable myths and fruitless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculations that do nothing to further God’s plan for humans, that works through faith in Him. The goal of this Command is love, which comes from a pure heart, a good conscience and a genuine faith. Through a lack of these attributes, some have gone astray into a plethora of theories and false notions. They set out to be teachers of the Law, but they do not know what they are talking about or the true meaning of the Word.
We all know the Law is a good thing, if it is used properly, it’s there not just for the righteous, but is necessary for the lawless and sinful, the godless and worldly, the murderers and fornicators, perverts, liars, perjurers, in fact all whose behaviour flouts the glorious Gospel of God.


‘The end of this era, will be a time of turmoil’, Paul may be referring to the Tribulation period, but we have for the last 100 years experienced many wars and disasters. Matt. 24:6-8
Persecution will come to everyone who follows Jesus’, This totally refutes any ‘pre-wrath rapture’. 1 Peter 4:12 However, righteous Israel will be taken to a place of safety during the Great Tribulation. Rev. 12:14
‘While preserving the outward form of religion, they deny its power’. Many, so called Christian Churches have deviated so far from the true Gospel, they are no longer a Church of God. Isaiah 58, Jude 1-25, Rev. 3:14-22
The time has come when people refuse sound teaching’, they ignore, allegorise or place Bible prophecy into past history, so have no proper understanding of what will happen soon. Isaiah:29:13-14, Isaiah 30:8-11
False teachers are more prevalent than ever, promoting their erroneous doctrines.’ Ministries, TV shows, books, etc, on the end times are a big business. Their judgement comes, false teachers will all meet their end on the Day of wrath. Jer.14:13-16, Isaiah 56:9-12
 

shturt678s

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keras said:
Truths of the Final Age
2 Timothy 3:1-17 Remember, the final age of this world is to be a time of turmoil! People will love nothing but self and money, they will be boastful, arrogant and abusive. Disobedient to parents, devoid of gratitude, piety and natural affection. They will be uncontrolled in their violence, hating all goodness, perfidious, foolhardy and self important. They will love their pleasures more than their God. While preserving the outward form of religion, actually, they deny its power. Have nothing to do with them.
Persecution will indeed come to everyone who wants to lead a godly life as a follower of Christ Jesus, while evil doers and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But for your part, stand by the truths you have learned and are assured of, because you are familiar with the Holy scriptures which have the power to make you wise and lead you into salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
All inspired scripture has its use for teaching the truth, refuting error and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be capable and equipped for good works of every kind.

2 Timothy 4:1-5 Before God and before Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, I charge you solemnly by His coming appearing and Millennial reign – to proclaim the gospel, press it home, in season and out of season, use argument, reproof and encouragement with all the patience that teaching requires.
For the time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will follow his own ideas and will gather crowds to hear whatever they fancy. They will stop their
ears to the truth and turn aside to myths.
But, you must keep your head whatever happens; put up with hardship, work to spread the gospel and discharge all the duties of your calling.
1 Timothy 1:3-11 I asked you, Timothy, to instruct certain people to refrain from teaching erroneous doctrines and devoting themselves to interminable myths and fruitless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculations that do nothing to further God’s plan for humans, that works through faith in Him. The goal of this Command is love, which comes from a pure heart, a good conscience and a genuine faith. Through a lack of these attributes, some have gone astray into a plethora of theories and false notions. They set out to be teachers of the Law, but they do not know what they are talking about or the true meaning of the Word.
We all know the Law is a good thing, if it is used properly, it’s there not just for the righteous, but is necessary for the lawless and sinful, the godless and worldly, the murderers and fornicators, perverts, liars, perjurers, in fact all whose behaviour flouts the glorious Gospel of God.


‘The end of this era, will be a time of turmoil’, Paul may be referring to the Tribulation period, but we have for the last 100 years experienced many wars and disasters. Matt. 24:6-8
Persecution will come to everyone who follows Jesus’, This totally refutes any ‘pre-wrath rapture’. 1 Peter 4:12 However, righteous Israel will be taken to a place of safety during the Great Tribulation. Rev. 12:14
‘While preserving the outward form of religion, they deny its power’. Many, so called Christian Churches have deviated so far from the true Gospel, they are no longer a Church of God. Isaiah 58, Jude 1-25, Rev. 3:14-22
The time has come when people refuse sound teaching’, they ignore, allegorise or place Bible prophecy into past history, so have no proper understanding of what will happen soon. Isaiah:29:13-14, Isaiah 30:8-11
False teachers are more prevalent than ever, promoting their erroneous doctrines.’ Ministries, TV shows, books, etc, on the end times are a big business. Their judgement comes, false teachers will all meet their end on the Day of wrath. Jer.14:13-16, Isaiah 56:9-12
Thank you for your response and caring!

I do agree with a lot of what you posited; however what should one do in introspection so as not to be a part of the problem, but be a part of the solution?

Old Jack