Excuse the copied post above, I hit the wrong button.
if you believe it was worldwide, you would believe that everyone who was not inside the ark, perished as the bible says. But you seem to think the nephilim survived which indicates that you may not have thought it through.
The following Scripture proves there was a second irruption of the nephilim AFTER the flood also. That's what the "and also after that" phrase is pointing to. That's why many Bible Scriptures exist about 'giants' also existing AFTER the flood.
Gen 6:4
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There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
(KJV)
Secular humanism flat denies there was anything such as a race of hybrid giants created by the nephilim (fallen ones).
but that doesnt mean its evidence that God created each individual race.
I wasn't trying to use DNA as a proof of God creating the races of mankind in the begining. It was you that wanted to use DNA as proof that all races were of 'one' stock.
DNA proves there are differences between the races of man, which is logical since even today two of one race does not produce offspring of another race. If DNA revealed what you're wanting to believe, then everytime a child is born of any woman the child should randomly be of any race. We well know that is not so today, nor was that ever shown happening anywhere in God's Word, including with the sons of Noah.
Do you realise that every white man on earth has an african marker in his gene? This is because we are all descended from that original family of Noahs sons. To biologists and anthropologists, a race is often defined simply as “a subdivision of a species which inherits physical characteristics distinguishing it from other populations of the species.”
Now that's evolutionary science at its best, which is of course pseudo-science. Lot of theories, but not one single link to prove it. Moreover, if it were true, then people would be randomly born into different races still today. We know that's not the case.
So we can distinguish a Jew from a Scandinavian based on their genetic markers... but there are more differences in the genes BETWEEN people of the same race, then between the different races themselves. That is further evidence that all the races are related by ancestry and its why a white man has african links in his genes.
What? If that were so, then Scandanavian people ought to be having a lot of African offspring!! And even African peoples ought to be producing a lot of Caucasian offspring, etc. Obviously, that's not the case, which makes that a truly wild assumption, which is a marker of pseudo-science.
You said "The existence of different races back to 3800 B.C. with the era of Sargon appearing among the ancient Sumerian peoples proves this also. Per Bible chronology, God formed the man Adam in His Garden in 4004 B.C., a mere 204 years difference when Sargon, a Semite, showed up among the ancient Sumerians who were a different race of people." and you state that this proves there were other people created besides Adam... but the bible does not say that is the case. You've assumed this when the reality could be that the Sumerians were simply descendents of Adam and Eve.
Well, The Bible does... point to other peoples already existing in other lands when Cain was cast out, with Cain going to "the land of Nod" and taking a wife, and also his fear he complained to God that anyone finding him would slay him. To counter that, some have tried to infer that Adam and Eve had many other children by that time, and they populated "the land of Nod". The archaeological histories fit The Bible better that there were 'other' peoples already established outside Eden where Cain left. The Assyrian Tablets of the Sumerian's own histories declare Sargon of another people from another land.
The only Sargon mentioned in the bible is the one who captured Sameria in 740BCE.
Sargon is simply a title like 'king', like Pharaoh, Caesar, etc. Sargon the first was the first one over the area of ancient Sumer-Babylon. He arrived among the Sumerians, built their first city, and gave them science of agriculture and canal building. He also began the first written history of pagan idol worship of the devil. That's where pagan culture on the earth originated.
there was a civilization which existed prior to the flood of 2370 B.C.E... they were made up of the offspring of Adam. There is no reason to assume that any of them were created apart from Adam.
There's much reason to believe that God created other peoples than Adam and Eve on His 6th day, because the Hebrew manuscripts show it in Gen.1:26-27 with Hebrew distinction between 'mankind' and 'the man Adam'. And God's law later given through Moses also aligns with that, since God said one of mixed race was not to enter the congregation of Israel to his 10th generation (Deut.23). That's God revealing His creation of the races, not evolution of races from one man.
can you provide the scriptural evidence for the creation of mulitple different races of mankind created by God?
Get a Hebrew Interlinear, and look at the Hebrew in Genesis 1:26-27. The Christian Hebrew/Greek scholar E.W.Bullinger in The Companion Bible has an Appendix on this also, (which the number escapes me at the moment). When Hebrew 'adaam' appears by itself, with no article and particle, it is put for mankind in general. But when an article and particle is included, it means a specific man. It works the same way our English does, like when we say 'man' only, vs. 'this man' which is specific.
The scriptures tell us that all man has decended from Adam.
Genesis 5:32 And Noah got to be five hundred years old. After that Noah became father to Shem, Ham and Ja′pheth.
Genesis 9:18 And Noah’s sons who came out of the ark were Shem and Ham and Ja′pheth. Later Ham was the father of Ca′naan. 19 These three were Noah’s sons, and from these was all the earth’s population spread abroad
That indeed was about the 'specific' offspring of Noah's three sons, as we're given all their offspring, including those of Ham's son Canaan that made up the Canaanite peoples.
Yet, among the Canaanites in Gen.15 four peoples are mentioned with them that have absolutely no... trace back to any of the sons of Noah.
Genesis 10:10 And this is the history of Noah’s sons, Shem, Ham and Ja′pheth.
Now sons began to be born to them after the deluge. 2 The sons of Ja′pheth were Go′mer and Ma′gog and Ma′da‧i and Ja′van and Tu′bal and Me′shech and Ti′ras....5 From these the population of the isles of the nations was spread about in their lands, each according to its tongue, according to their families, by their nations
Genesis 10:6 And the sons of Ham were Cush and Miz′ra‧im and Put and Ca′naan.
7 And the sons of Cush were Se′ba and Hav′i‧lah and Sab′tah and Ra′a‧mah and Sab′te‧ca.
And the sons of Ra′a‧mah were She′ba and De′dan.
8 And Cush became father to Nim′rod. He made the start in becoming a mighty one in the earth. 9 He displayed himself a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah. That is why there is a saying: “Just like Nim′rod a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah.” 10 And the beginning of his kingdom came to be Ba′bel and E′rech and Ac′cad and Cal′neh, in the land of Shi′nar. 11 Out of that land he went forth into As‧syr′i‧a and set himself to building Nin′e‧veh and Re‧ho′both-Ir and Ca′lah 12 and Re′sen between Nin′e‧veh and Ca′lah: this is the great city.
13 And Miz′ra‧im became father to Lu′dim and An′a‧mim and Le‧ha′bim and Naph‧tu′him 14 and Path‧ru′sim and Cas‧lu′him (from among whom the Phi‧lis′tines went forth) and Caph′to‧rim.
15 And Ca′naan became father to Si′don his firstborn and Heth 16 and the Jeb′u‧site and the Am′or‧ite and the Gir′ga‧shite 17 and the Hi′vite and the Ark′ite and the Si′nite 18 and the Ar′vad‧ite and the Zem′a‧rite and the Ha′math‧ite; and afterward the families of the Ca′naan‧ite were scattered. 19 So the boundary of the Ca′naan‧ite came to be from Si′don as far as Ge′rar, near Ga′za, as far as Sod′om and Go‧mor′rah and Ad′mah and Ze‧boi′im, near La′sha. 20 These were the sons of Ham according to their families, according to their tongues, in their lands, by their nations.
Genesis 10:22 The sons of Shem were E′lam and As′shur and Ar‧pach′shad and Lud and A′ram.
...30 And their place of dwelling came to extend from Me′sha as far as Se′phar, the mountainous region of the East.
31 These were the sons of Shem according to their families, according to their tongues, in their lands, according to their nations.
32 These were the families of the sons of Noah according to their family descents, by their nations, and from these the nations were spread about in the earth after the deluge.
All these tribes developed AFTER the deluge according to Gods word. By the time Moses wrote this in the 15th century bce, 850 odd years had passed.
Gen 15:18-21
18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.
(KJV)
Good, you can read. Now tell me who those four peoples in bold are descended from. By the same way you posted Genesis Scripture above, you must also do that with the lineage of these four peoples. You won't find them at all in any of Noah's lineage. And that would point to what?
just because Moses did not explain who these tribes originated from, does not mean they were individually created by God. The fact that they are mentioned right alongside the cannanites and the Ammorites is an indicator that they are simply decendents of the tribes already existing in the area. The names of these tribes come from the name of a forefather...just as the Isrealites were descendents of Isreal/Jacob.
Moses was under the pen of The Holy Spirit. And The Holy Spirit left us enough evidence there that point to other peoples than Noah's lineage on earth at that time after the flood. So how did they make it through the flood, since they were not of Noah's lineage?
Maybe it's a good time to mention how far out some of men's traditions have existed to try and explain how the races came about after the flood. With Ham back in Gen.9, Noah got drunk and Ham saw his father Noah's nakedness, and told his brothers who then covered that nakedness. Then Noah woke up and immediately began cursing Canaan. Traditions of men then used that to say the Black people descended from Ham because of what he had done to his father Noah, and that they were under Noah's curse with Canaan. Because those rilers won't study all of God's Word, they have failed to grasp that per Leviticus 18 & 20 the idea of 'uncovering the nakedness of one's father' means literally to sleep with one's own mother. Noah's wife is Biblicaly considered to be Noah's nakedness. This is why when Noah woke out of his drunkeness, he knew what sin Ham had done against him. And the result of the sin was the offspring of Canaan. So now with that, one must scrap that event as being an explanation for where the Black peoples originated. God created the Black peoples on His 6th day, just as He did all other races.
Yet even quite a few scholars of history have used that false assumption about Ham for the Black people's origins, even trying to use the meaning of Ham's name which means 'hot'. In Gen.6, we were told that Noah was "perfect in his generations". The Hebrew word for 'perfect' there is NOT in the moral perfect sense. It's in the blood lineage sense because the Hebrew word is the same one used for an unblemished sacrificial animal per the Old Covenant. So if Noah's lineage was perfect from the man Adam, then how is it that no longer matters after the flood? It does matter per God's Word, even as Deut.23:2 later showed.
there are still people born with six fingers and toes today... surely you dont believe that they too are individually created by God?
And they have normal parents... parents with 5 fingers and toes, so it is only a genetic fault they have...they are not a new race of people. And they give birth to kids with 5 fingers and toes which is further proof they are not a new race of people...they just have a genetic mutation.
I'm aware of
small undeveloped extra appendages some are born with, which are mutations. But I've yet to see anyone born with
fully developed six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot (24 digits). That's what 2 Sam.21:20 is pointing to with the hybrid giants.
2 Samual 21:15 And the Phi‧lis′tines came to have war again with Israel. Accordingly David and his servants with him went down and fought the Phi‧lis′tines; and David grew tired. 16 And Ish′bi-be′nob, who was among those born of the Reph′a‧im, the weight of whose spear was three hundred shekels of copper and who was girded with a new sword, got to think of striking David down
In the hebrew text, it literally reads: “the Raphah.” (ha‧Ra‧phah′). This is the father’s name and it stands for the entire race of 'giants'. They were exceptionally large people, big and strong. But they are not the same as the 'nephilim' who were the hybrid children of the disobedient angels in Noahs day.
Uh, yes they are the offspring of the Nephilim, as Gen.6:4 showed us they existed "and also after that", mean after the days of Noah (which of course means after the flood). So it's like I said, they did not originate from some guy named Rephah, for Rephah was a later son of Ephraim, and Ephraim was not born yet at Gen.15 when the Rephaims were mentioned.
In many OT Scriptures, that word for the giants was not brought into the KJV English as Rephaim, but as various words for 'the dead'. Someone here might list all those cases if we ask.
he made man out of dust, how is that possible? 
