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We are the "branches" and branches can do nothing of themselves.
Its the ROOT that produces both the branches and the fruit.

Did you ever see a Rose Bud producing the Flower?
Did you ever see a tree branch producing the Tree?
Did you ever seen a confused Christian trying to produce their own works (fruit) and confess sin trying to stay saved?.......= Yes you did.

So, when we hear someone saying........"well, as long as the branches are doing their job".... "as long as they are abiding by self effort"..

= But what they dont understand, is that its the Root that produces the fruit through the branches......its not the branches trying to endure to the end and keep commandments that bears the fruit.

The Branch is nothing more then the vessel that is used by the Root to produce fruit through it.

The False teaching is that the Branch is responsible, and in fact its the Root that is responsible for the fruit, and not the branch.

See any Flower or Tree for the update on what is producing the fruit through what.... reader.

Jesus said........"apart from me you can do nothing".........and Jesus is The ROOT who is explaining to you that when you the branch tries to do for yourself what only God's Spirit can do through you, then you are cutting yourself off from the ROOT and you'll produce nothing but self righteousness.
Did you ever see fruit produced from a disconnected branch? What do you say about the very words of Jesus?


Jn 15:4-7
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing
.If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
 
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Did you ever see fruit produced from a disconnected branch? What do you say about the very words of Jesus?


Jn 15:4-7
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
anything and anyone not connected to CHRIST JESUS BY FAITH IN HIM
produces only wicked fruit .
Oh they might cliam good works and be feeding the poor , but their works are in vain and they cling to SIN and UNBELIEF .
IT shall not profit them at all On the great and MIGHTY day OF THE LORD .
SO allow me a reminder to prove who is of GOD and who Rejects GOD .
JESUS said , HE who recieves His testimony has set to His seal that GOD IS TRUE
John would also write HE who recieves NOT the testimony of GOD that HE gave of the SON , calls GOD A LIAR .
WHO is a liar , but he who d enies JESUS is the CHRIST , he is anti christ .
Now get them out of ecumeincal intefaith , it leads them all to a lie and to their own damanation
It will not be PEACE N SAFETY rained upon them on THE DAY of THE LORD but rather SUDDEN and SWIFT destruction .
Procliam JESUS . Proclaim the dire need to REPENT and BELEIVE ON HIM .
And do not be a supporter of and co helper to a LIE . Expose the harlot and preach ONLY JESUS and biblical sound doctrine
 
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anything and anyone not connected to CHRIST JESUS BY FAITH IN HIM
produces only wicked fruit .
Oh they might cliam good works and be feeding the poor , but their works are in vain and they cling to SIN and UNBELIEF .
IT shall not profit them at all On the great and MIGHTY day OF THE LORD .
SO allow me a reminder to prove who is of GOD and who Rejects GOD .
JESUS said , HE who recieves His testimony has set to His seal that GOD IS TRUE
John would also write HE who recieves NOT the testimony of GOD that HE gave of the SON , calls GOD A LIAR .
WHO is a liar , but he who d enies JESUS is the CHRIST , he is anti christ .
Now get them out of ecumeincal intefaith , it leads them all to a lie and to their own damanation
It will not be PEACE N SAFETY rained upon them on THE DAY of THE LORD but rather SUDDEN and SWIFT destruction .
Procliam JESUS . Proclaim the dire need to REPENT and BELEIVE ON HIM .
And do not be a supporter of and co helper to a LIE . Expose the harlot and preach ONLY JESUS and biblical sound doctrine
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Paul teaches in Romans 12 that everyone has "a/the measure of faith".
And this is easily proven, as everyone believes in something........and that means they are putting their faith in it.
This is a letter not to everyone but to the Christians in Rome… and to us Christians by extension. With this “everyone,” Behold, Paul is just talking about Christians, not “every human being.” In Romans 12 ~ like 1 Corinthians 12 ~ he is talking about gifts of the Spirit, of which saving faith is one (1 Corinthians 12:9), and yes, it is “empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as He wills” (1 Corinthians 12:11).

Consider the very definition of salvific faith, which is given to us in Hebrews 11:1… “faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” We cannot give ourselves this assurance and conviction, it has to come from God Himself. Otherwise it is a blind hope… essentially wishful thinking, and not effectual unto salvation.

In addition to that, if this faith is something we make for or in ourselves, it is then a work of man, which is absolutely antithetical to anything regarding saving faith in the Bible.

Faith is : TRUST
No. See above. The writer of Hebrews tells us ~ really God Himself tells us ~ what faith is, in Hebrews 11:1. The faith we have is not… cannot be… a work of man in or of himself.

God told us that if we will put our faith in CHRIST, then our ""faith is counted by God, as (Christ's) righteousness"" imputed to us.

"Abraham BELIEVED GOD (Faith)
Our belief is the product of the faith ~ again, God’s assurance, conviction by the Spirit (Hebrews 11:1) ~ which comes to us in our being born again of the Spirit. Just like Abraham.

…and it (his faith) was counted by God as righteousness".
His belief, not his faith. His belief was counted to him as righteousness, and it is the same for all Christians, regardless of the measure, great or small ~ even the size of a mustard seed ~ because yes, we Christians all have it.

Paul teaches this as : "Justification BY faith".........and He teaches it as "(God's)GRACE....through Faith”
Right, but if we are to say we make or produce our own faith, it is no longer by God’s grace ~ which is unmerited favor ~ but by something other than grace and somehow merited, so then God’s grace would not be grace at all (Romans 11:5-6), which… perish the thought.

terribly deceived people "willfully sin" by willfully refusing to believe…
Right, they willingly do the will of their father, the devil, because they are not born again of the Spirit and are thus still dead in their sin. We Christians, however willingly do the will of our Father, God, because we have been given to Jesus by the Father and are thus His sheep (John 10:26-30).

Faith alone is all God accepts from a SINNER to save them and keep them saved.
Absolutely agree. We are saved by grace (God’s grace, of course) through faith, and this not of your own doing, it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8). We cannot extract faith from that… it is all the gift of God… His assurance, given to us. So yes, then, having been given this faith, we then of our own volition walk by it, and do good works ~ which are then the outward evidence both to ourselves and others that we do have it ~ because of it.

Yes, others can have faith in something, or even a blind faith of some kind, but Paul is not talking about that. James does, yes, saying that if anyone says they have faith but it is not evidenced by good works, it is a dead faith, which is to say it is something other than God-given, living faith.

Grace and peace to you.
 

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Paul teaches in Romans 12 that everyone has "a/the measure of faith".
And this is easily proven, as everyone believes in something........and that means they are putting their faith in it.
The context of Romans 12 is the body of Christ, as in all men in the body have the measure of faith. He says different in 2 Th.

2 Th 3:2
And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
 
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