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Finding God's perfect will.

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  1. Behold

    Behold Well-Known Member

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    What is God's Perfect will for you?,
    How to know....

    1st....lets separate "discipleship" from "GOD's WILL".

    Now, what im going to show you is something that you've not been shown before.
    And once you see it, you'll know what God's Perfect will is for you, all of your LIFE.

    First, lets understand what "christian" discipleship is......

    Discipleship is simply you loving God with all your life.
    Discipleship is you understanding that TIME is LIFE< and you are to Give GOD most of your TIME. And you do this by taking care of your family, studying the bible, prayer and praise, fellowship with other believers, meditation on the Lovely Jesus, and by living the holy life...etc.

    Thats discipleship. That is Christianity 101, and isn't difficult to figure out.

    But the "Will of God".....ah.....thats different., as that is a specific understanding.
    So, here it is.. I want you to see this, Reader....

    = In this world you have God's born again, and you find The Devil's Children.

    You have 2 Spiritual Fathers. 1.) The Father of Christ and 2.) the Devil.. Satan

    You have 2 families. You have the Born again family of God, and you have, as Jesus defined ALL Unbelievers. """You ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE....DEVIL. ""

    Saint, when people DIE they GO to THEIR FATHER... 1.) The Born Again end up with GOD and CHRIST..... 2.) and the Lost, the Unbelievers, end up with their FATHER< the Devil.

    What does this mean?
    It means that if you are Born Again, you have a Heavenly Father, and if you are not saved, then Your Father is the "god of this world". Satan.

    So, what is God's Perfect Will for you, if you are BORN AGAIN. ??
    Its very simple, Saint. God's perfect Will for you is to do all you can to get the Devil's family INTO God's Family.

    That's God's Perfect Will for your life, for all of your life.
    You are to do all you can do to get the Devil's family,... INTO GOD's Family....THROUGH CHRIST.

    Are you doing it yet?
     
  2. Randy Kluth

    Randy Kluth Well-Known Member

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    I agree that it should be our natural inclination to want to bring God's message of salvation to all men. But I don't believe the unsaved are technically called "children of the devil." Only those who refuse salvation are biblically called "children of the devil."

    All men in this world are "under the power of Satan" before they are saved. It's just that they are not technically called the "children of Satan." Maybe we should call some "lost sheep" and others "children of the world," the latter group not wanting to hear about or receive salvation.

    And we don't get anybody saved. Our call is only to spread the good news everywhere, whether people accept it or not. It's God's job to convert them. Only the Holy Spirit can convict their heart. But yes, we are the messenger. I agree--this is our mission, to testify to the truth in Christ.
     
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    Jesus is the one who "technically" defined the unbeliever as the Children of the Devil.
    "you are of YOUR Father, the Devil".
    Notice = "YOUR".

    Im assuming you are born again.
    This means that you are a new creation In Christ who is not just "water baptized" into the delusion that the water "washed your sin away".
    So, by being born again, you gained a New Father.
    Previously He was not your father, he was you Judge. John 3:36

    a "child of the Devil" is an unbeliever.
    A Child of God, is a born again believer.
     
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    Episkopos Well-Known Member

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    I'm amazed how you can't get anything right.

    People in the world are not children of the devil. Jesus said that to people who justified themselves by reading the words from God...as you are doing. The Pharisees used the holy things AGAINST God...as the devil does. But in the world God has many people.

    Whoever fears Him and does what is right is accepted by God.

    (I write this for they who would perhaps read this thread who are inclined to know the truth)
     
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    Behold Well-Known Member

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    Jesus said..>"you are of your Father, = THE Devil"

    So, yesterday you rejected Paul, today you are rejection Christ.
    Nothing new, episkopos.

    The unbeliever, the Christ rejector, will be found with their family, after they die.
    Hell first, and the Lake of Fire later, is the " eternal home" of the Children of the Devil.

    By their FRUIT< you shall know them.
    You should be able to recognize God's own by their behavior that represent their nature, that is God's Spirit.
    You will be able to recognize the Devil's children, by their deeds, and by their unbelief, and by their rebellion, and their Christ Rejection.
    The Devil rejects Christ, as that is his nature.


    His nature is SIN< but its truly defined as LUST, and that is the nature of his Children, = all the unbelievers.
     
  6. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

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    I see these as two sides of the same coin. Loving God with all I am, giving myself fully to Him without reservation will result in His using my life to gather together His family, but in that particular way He wants to use me. It may be this way, it may be that way.

    Much love!
     
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    God is all about having family.
    He died to purchase a big one.
     
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    Those who sin are the children of the devil....1 John 3:8.

    I beg to differ (Jude 1:23).

    If people in the world are defined as sinners (in the sense that they commit sin) then they are not children of God but children of the devil (1 John 3:8).
     
  9. Randy Kluth

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    That's definitely a verse to consider. I personally see this not as an indictment against all of mankind, but rather, against those who reject Jesus as their Savior. It is a special kind of sin, the sin of rejecting the truth for all time. The devil rejected truth for all time. So also do his "children" reject truth for all kind.

    Others sin, but are willing to repent. This kind of sin, mentioned above, refers, I think, to sin that persists forever. Just as in 1 John we read some "don't sin at all, in practice," so this verse suggests that some sin, by nature, or as a practice.

    There is a difference between adopting a nature of regular sinning and committing sin intermittently or doing sin and then repenting. It is the same with practicing righteousness regularly. It doesn't mean that the righteous do not sin, but that as a practice they choose for and practice righteousness.

    This is an eternal decision in the making, in my opinion. But I see where you're coming from.

    I believe we are in the world, but can be liberated from being "of the world." But just because we were in and of the world does not mean we were "children of Satan." Children of Satan choose to follow Satan in rebellion against God forever. It is an eternal decision. That what makes them, by nature, "children of the devil."
     
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    Those who sin are children of the devil (1 John 3:8).
     
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