Flat Earth Theory
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ScottA
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The recent Flat Earth Theory is a psyop to preoccupy imaginations and cover up what's really going on around the globe.
The Deep State first started it and still uses it to distract the masses, and since then it has also been perfected and used by an alliance of nations fighting against the Deep State as a "conspiracy theory"-type cover up to make real data seem ridiculous and not to be taken serious.
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So do you think it's flat?
The recent Flat Earth Theory is a pyop to preoccupy imaginations and cover up what's really going on around the globe.
The Deep State first started it and still uses it to distract the masses, and since then it has also been perfected and used by an alliance of nations fighting against the Deep State as a "conspiracy theory"-type cover up to make real data seem ridiculous and not to be taken serious.
ScottA
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No, I know it's not, but is a globe.
God showed me when I lived on Maui. I lived up the mountain, and before heading down the mountain to go to work every morning, you could look across to the neighboring island of Lanai and see the wrecked freighter on Shipwreck Beach. When you got down to the shoreline road it disappeared below the horizon. Some might try to say that was because of the height of the seas--but I know better--because my job was taking a boat out across those seas every morning.
I've seen videos of an interesting phenomenon where boats appear to disappear bottom first. I often hear it as evidence of the globe. But some of these videos are able to pull the entire boat back into focus just by zooming on the camera. Which seems to show the disappearance from 'bottom up' isn't evidence for a globe.
ScottA
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Optical "illusions" are enhanced with optics, but that doesn't actually change the object of their illusion. It just shows their illusion to be just that.
So what tells you it's a globe? Just that you saw the ship disappear below the horizon?
If so, how would that mean earth is a globe? Genuinely curious, haha
There were pagan crackpot theories which said the earth was infinite tube also. Eventually, scientists or philosophers learned the earth be round.
Grailhunter
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And you trust those scientists and philosophers? Some people call them the crackpots. But I'm just sharing what I've seen, haha
Some scientists are Young Earth Creationist. I admit Australia has many FYEC, flat youg earth crackpots.
There are people in the science world who have come to Christ after reading the Biblical accounts of the creation and a fixed earth with foundations, and a firmament, luminaries inside the firmament, and waters above (and below) the firmament.
ScottA
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What's the same as walking over a hill? A ship disappearing under the horizon is the same as walking down a hill? Haha please clarify.
What do you mean? Someone could see hills and mountains where there are none, sure it's possible.
Are you referring to the existence of hills and mountains as evidence for a globe earth?
The Bible does tell us about creation of the earth, and I certainly don't fault anyone for the flat earth interpretation of it. To me, it seems pretty clear the stars are in the firmament. And the firmament divided the waters.
So there's water among, or past the stars. Edit: or at least there was. Bible does tell us the Lord opened the floodgates. Not sure if all the water came down, or if there's still a bunch up there
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. [Genesis 7:11]
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Grailhunter
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There is a lot we can learn regarding their belief that the world was flat. Flat but shaped like a cracker....it had corners. Flat with water running over the edges. Flat and on pillars and un-movable. Flat with the sun and moon and stars revolving around it. Flat with windows to Heaven. Flat with Shoel beneath it.
Yes there are Christians today than rather admit that there are errors in the scriptures believe the world is flat.
What can we learn from the ancient beliefs that the world was flat?
The scriptures were written by an ancient people who had a limited understanding about the Laws of Physics and Quantum and Cosmology. Even the Spirit World and Heaven and Hell are not well explained for a very good reason ....beyond our understanding. Yahweh and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit were tasked with saving humanity....not confusing it. To get us to understand what was important.....salvation....the details will be revealed when we get to Heaven. So we need to understand the message of love and salvation was told to them to save them.
And so there were topics that the Gods did not attempt to explain. Yeshua was not going to try to explain Quantum science and Astrophysics and DNA and germs. Things that they could not see that could make them sick and kill them. That would all lead to technology before we were ready to deal with it responsibly. In the 20th century we went from candles to landing on the Moon and nuclear weapons in just a few years. The light bulb in 1879 and the Moon landing in 1969.
We also need to understand the dangers and power of false beliefs. For one when false beliefs involve religion it can program the mind. False beliefs can cause sin. False beliefs can prevent us from understanding the scriptures. Case in point there are over a hundred scriptures that prove there are three Gods. But the false belief shifter in the mind will not allow that fact to go from their eyes to their minds. Instead they read the scriptures and the mind control shifter has Yeshua being sent from Himself.....talking to Himself....Praying to Himself.....He is His own Father...... greater than Himself....pleased with Himself....ascending to Himself.....He is His own God.....Impregnating Miriam with Himself....etc. How many Gods were crucified? False beliefs are a powerful thing.
The false beliefs of the 3 in 1 formula for the Trinity and the flat earth beliefs were murderous. Christians killed people that refused to believe these false beliefs. The term Trinity existed long before the Roman Catholic Church forced the 3 in 1 belief on everyone. The term Trinity refers to the unity of the Godhead of 3 Gods that sit on 3 thrones in Heaven. Tri-unity not triune. Yahweh gave us terms to understand His relationship with Yeshua..... Father and Son but the false belief mind shifter will not let most understand that.....The love they had for each other not themselves. Many died over this false belief.
Same goes for the flat earth belief....People that tried to prove it was wrong were persecuted and murdered by the Church. Those that were persecuting and killing people thought they were defending the Bible. And today these false beliefs makes Christianity look stupid and puts Christianity at odds with science. Science is proving a lot of what the scriptures say are true. But still the false beliefs causes many Christians to not like science and education. And causes Christians to do a mental juggling act between false beliefs and reality. They may say science is all wrong but they drive to church in their Ford pickup that has 32 computers. The may say science is all wrong but if they have a heart attack they will use their witchy smart phone to call the science mobile to take them to the building of science for treatment. And they want the doctor to believe in science because if all he does is pull out a Bible and read it to them.....they are going to die.
Yeshua could not explain everything back then, even higher moral concerns. He could not confront polygamy and concubinage and slavery and female equality back then.....He had to teach us those things slowly. But sometimes back then people would see things that were beyond their understanding and they would explain them the best they could....like chariots of fire and the flying machine in Ezekiel. When Yeshua ascended to His Father in the New Testament.....what did that look like?
Seek the Truth and know the most important Truth is Faith in our Savior and know whether it is the scriptures or science we will only understand some of the Truth. When it comes to things like Quantum science and Astrophysics and DNA and evolution even science is learning new things all the time. So it is important to understand that it is not disrespectful to the scriptures to know that ancient perceptions will show up in the scriptures.
Yes there are Christians today than rather admit that there are errors in the scriptures believe the world is flat.
What can we learn from the ancient beliefs that the world was flat?
The scriptures were written by an ancient people who had a limited understanding about the Laws of Physics and Quantum and Cosmology. Even the Spirit World and Heaven and Hell are not well explained for a very good reason ....beyond our understanding. Yahweh and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit were tasked with saving humanity....not confusing it. To get us to understand what was important.....salvation....the details will be revealed when we get to Heaven. So we need to understand the message of love and salvation was told to them to save them.
And so there were topics that the Gods did not attempt to explain. Yeshua was not going to try to explain Quantum science and Astrophysics and DNA and germs. Things that they could not see that could make them sick and kill them. That would all lead to technology before we were ready to deal with it responsibly. In the 20th century we went from candles to landing on the Moon and nuclear weapons in just a few years. The light bulb in 1879 and the Moon landing in 1969.
We also need to understand the dangers and power of false beliefs. For one when false beliefs involve religion it can program the mind. False beliefs can cause sin. False beliefs can prevent us from understanding the scriptures. Case in point there are over a hundred scriptures that prove there are three Gods. But the false belief shifter in the mind will not allow that fact to go from their eyes to their minds. Instead they read the scriptures and the mind control shifter has Yeshua being sent from Himself.....talking to Himself....Praying to Himself.....He is His own Father...... greater than Himself....pleased with Himself....ascending to Himself.....He is His own God.....Impregnating Miriam with Himself....etc. How many Gods were crucified? False beliefs are a powerful thing.
The false beliefs of the 3 in 1 formula for the Trinity and the flat earth beliefs were murderous. Christians killed people that refused to believe these false beliefs. The term Trinity existed long before the Roman Catholic Church forced the 3 in 1 belief on everyone. The term Trinity refers to the unity of the Godhead of 3 Gods that sit on 3 thrones in Heaven. Tri-unity not triune. Yahweh gave us terms to understand His relationship with Yeshua..... Father and Son but the false belief mind shifter will not let most understand that.....The love they had for each other not themselves. Many died over this false belief.
Same goes for the flat earth belief....People that tried to prove it was wrong were persecuted and murdered by the Church. Those that were persecuting and killing people thought they were defending the Bible. And today these false beliefs makes Christianity look stupid and puts Christianity at odds with science. Science is proving a lot of what the scriptures say are true. But still the false beliefs causes many Christians to not like science and education. And causes Christians to do a mental juggling act between false beliefs and reality. They may say science is all wrong but they drive to church in their Ford pickup that has 32 computers. The may say science is all wrong but if they have a heart attack they will use their witchy smart phone to call the science mobile to take them to the building of science for treatment. And they want the doctor to believe in science because if all he does is pull out a Bible and read it to them.....they are going to die.
Yeshua could not explain everything back then, even higher moral concerns. He could not confront polygamy and concubinage and slavery and female equality back then.....He had to teach us those things slowly. But sometimes back then people would see things that were beyond their understanding and they would explain them the best they could....like chariots of fire and the flying machine in Ezekiel. When Yeshua ascended to His Father in the New Testament.....what did that look like?
Seek the Truth and know the most important Truth is Faith in our Savior and know whether it is the scriptures or science we will only understand some of the Truth. When it comes to things like Quantum science and Astrophysics and DNA and evolution even science is learning new things all the time. So it is important to understand that it is not disrespectful to the scriptures to know that ancient perceptions will show up in the scriptures.
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