Flat Earth Theory

[rvmb]

No, but I have boldly challenged you. What's it going to be? Can you produce when challenged, when called on the carpet?

No reference to you Scott.
As in other forums I interact with, when some people are asked a simple yes or no question that will dismantle what they believe is correct, they turn to an unrelated topic or simply become argumentative/derogatory.
If a person doesn't know then simply be humble enough to say so that way everyone can spend time learning rather than swinging a baseball bat, ps, I've been guilty of that :)

 

[David in NJ]

No reference to you Scott.
As in other forums I interact with, when some people are asked a simple yes or no question that will dismantle what they believe is correct, they turn to an unrelated topic or simply become argumentative/derogatory.
If a person doesn't know then simply be humble enough to say so that way everyone can spend time learning rather than swinging a baseball bat, ps, I've been guilty of that :)

Reference to me???

Be bold now and no hiding.

 

[ScottA]

So when offered the opportunity to give God the Glory you prove = you are AFRAID

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment.
But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

You are lying about what I have said. What I said was:

Meanwhile, no--no "lie", I gave God credit for creating the perfect manifestation of Him at the center fulfilling everything that is written.

 

[ScottA]

No reference to you Scott.
As in other forums I interact with, when some people are asked a simple yes or no question that will dismantle what they believe is correct, they turn to an unrelated topic or simply become argumentative/derogatory.
If a person doesn't know then simply be humble enough to say so that way everyone can spend time learning rather than swinging a baseball bat, ps, I've been guilty of that :)

I am all for being humble and not being argumentative or derogatory. That is not my way. Forthright, yes. However, there was no need for me to say "I don't know", because I do know.

 

[David in NJ]

You are lying about what I have said. What I said was:

You twice diverted away from a simple 'yes/no' question that was asked of you FIRST

Speaking of "lying", here are yours:
#1 - "you have declined."
#2 - "Predictable."
#3 - "And no amount of scriptural sidestepping makes up for your lack of ability to produce proof."
#4 - "You cannot because you have not."

i SAID, that i was not going to answer any question from you until you returned to that which was asked of you = FIRST

3 strikes your out

 

[rvmb]

I am all for being humble and not being argumentative or derogatory. That is not my way. Forthright, yes. However, there was no need for me to say "I don't know", because I do know.

You twice diverted away from a simple 'yes/no' question that was asked of you FIRST

Speaking of "lying", here are yours:
#1 - "you have declined."
#2 - "Predictable."
#3 - "And no amount of scriptural sidestepping makes up for your lack of ability to produce proof."
#4 - "You cannot because you have not."

i SAID, that i was not going to answer any question from you until you returned to that which was asked of you = FIRST

And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

You twice diverted away from a simple 'yes/no' question that was asked of you FIRST

Speaking of "lying", here are yours:
#1 - "you have declined."
#2 - "Predictable."
#3 - "And no amount of scriptural sidestepping makes up for your lack of ability to produce proof."
#4 - "You cannot because you have not."

i SAID, that i was not going to answer any question from you until you returned to that which was asked of you = FIRST

3 strikes your out

""3 strikes your out""
That's not a very Christ like attitude or response
You yourself refuse to answer a simple questions about your claim that the Bible teaches FLAT EARTH
eg If the earth is FLAT why does Argentina not see the NORTH STAR yet Canada does ?
A simple question about your FLAT EARTH BIBLE CLAIM yet you don't answer !!

 

[David in NJ]

""3 strikes your out""
That's not a very Christ like attitude or response
You yourself refuse to answer a simple questions about your claim that the Bible teaches FLAT EARTH
eg If the earth is FLAT why does Argentina not see the NORTH STAR yet Canada does ?
A simple question about your FLAT EARTH BIBLE CLAIM yet you don't answer !!

On the contrary = it is exactly how the Lord Jesus answered the pharisees who diverted and accused.

Are you using selective biased reasoning on purpose or did you not SEE that Scott was asked FIRST and refused/diverted.

To be like Christ, you should begin at Post 646 between Scott and myself pertaining to the FIRST question posed which was presented to Scott in Post 650

Post 646 is Ultra important for you to SEE

 

[rvmb]

On the contrary = it is exactly how the Lord Jesus answered the pharisees who diverted and accused.

Are you using selective biased reasoning on purpose or did you not SEE that Scott was askked FIRST and refused/diverted.

To be like Christ, you should begin at Post 646 between Scott and myself pertaining to the FIRST question posed which was presented to Scott in Post 650

Post 646 is Ulltra important for you to SEE

""If the earth is FLAT why does Argentina not see the NORTH STAR yet Canada does ?""
and the reason you don't/can't answer this question is ?

 

[David in NJ]

""If the earth is FLAT why does Argentina not see the NORTH STAR yet Canada does ?""
and the reason you don't/can't answer this question is ?

God does not reveal His Truth to us this way.

God only Speaks Truth = every word = Matt 4:4

Hebrews ch11 = This is the WAY that the LORD requires from us so that HE may be pleased and grant to us understanding

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.

By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Ecclesiastes 2:26 - For to the one who pleases him God has given wisdom and knowledge and joy

Make it your effort to please God

 

[rvmb]

God does not reveal His Truth to us this way.

God only Speaks Truth = every word = Matt 4:4

Hebrews ch11 = This is the WAY that the LORD requires from us so that HE may be pleased and grant to us understanding

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.

By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

If the earth is FLAT why does Argentina not see the NORTH STAR yet Canada does ?, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Ecclesiastes 2:26 - For to the one who pleases him God has given wisdom and knowledge and joy

Make it your effort to please God

""Make it your effort to please God""
Then do likewise
Using the Bible, explain why Canada sees the NORTH STAR & Argentina doesn't :)

 

[Archie]

I know that we have some scientists in the room.

Any of you care to take a look at these documents and provide your feedback?

Language alert.

FLAT EARTH Military Documents - Yes, They're Real. Here They Are...

From ballistic missile trajectory calculations to unmanned vehicles, the US Military and NASA have been using FLAT EARTH as their model for over 60 YEARS!

chemtrails.substack.com

 

[David in NJ]

""Make it your effort to please God""
Then do likewise
Using the Bible, explain why Canada sees the NORTH STAR & Argentina doesn't :)

You just produced a fallacy by suggesting that God's Word must be proven by your unbelief of His Word
This is the platform of the pharisees when they question JESUS

fallacy /făl′ə-sē/

noun​

1. A false notion.
2. A statement or an argument based on a false or invalid inference.
3. Incorrectness of reasoning or belief; erroneousness.

 

[rvmb]

You just produced a fallacy by suggesting that God's Word must be proven by your unbelief of His Word
This is the platform of the pharisees when they question JESUS

fallacy /făl′ə-sē/

noun​

1. A false notion.
2. A statement or an argument based on a false or invalid inference.
3. Incorrectness of reasoning or belief; erroneousness.

You claim Bible teaches FLAT EARTH then are unable to answer a simple question about your claim.
Your Biblical logic then dictates the Earth must be a flat square or rectangle :)
Rev 7:1 .. I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth

 

[Rudometkin]

science
/sī′əns/
noun
The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

The Bible is indeed a science book

The best science book

For when God Himself identifies, describes, and explains His creation, theorization is no longer required

I think many people would think since science is built on experimentation and since the Bible proclaims propositions, the Bible is therefore not scientific.

But even science uses baseline assumptions in order to operate. Whereas science could use the baseline of God's Word to experiment with the world, today's scientific enterprise uses their own assumptions which have no collective justification.

It assumes 'natural laws' such as consistency in natural causes of events in the world. Instead of God ontologically causing everything directly with His power and precisely by His will, science assumes one physical event can cause another, and then it uses the logically fallacious scientific method to confirm its hypothesis in experiments. When it is all boiled down, it is clear there is a blatantly unjustified assumption in the scientific world about causation. We observe events happen everyday, often with reliability and predictability. But correlation in events does not equal causation. One after another does not mean one caused another. One always after another does not mean one caused another. One always after another in your experience does not mean one always after another.

If an explosion occurs when chemical X is mixed with chemical Y, the scientist may conclude the explosion is caused by the mixture of the chemicals. Once repeated across the world by many of the 'world's finest methodical guessers' aka scientists, it becomes considered scientific fact that the mixture of chemical x and chemical y causes explosion. Scripture and rational thought across the world are then judged by this scientific fact. The scientific fact is held as mankind's finest, most trustworthy knowledge. However it is obvious the entire scientific process was repeated use of the logical fallacy "affirming the consequent" - fundamentally invalid reasoning. The world worships mankind's conclusions from absurdity.

In reality, clearly it would be God causing the proposed chemicals X and Y to exist. He may simultaneously cause an explosion to occur when He makes these two chemicals mix. However, He can cause the chemicals to collide without causing an explosion, and He can likewise cause just the explosion itself without the chemicals present. It is the scientist who foolishly assumes because he saw pattern, that he could therefore validly determine the cause of the event, and believes himself to have discovered 'laws' based on these incomplete observations.

God is moving the sun in a specific pattern He designed specifically for it. A scientist observes the sun and determines that because he is seemingly able to predict it's next movement at any given moment, its movement is therefore by some natural law. So the scientist says, "Therefore, natural law." God says He stopped the sun for awhile. The atheistic scientist says, "That would be supernatural, outside of natural law".

 

[rvmb]

I think many people would think since science is built on experimentation and since the Bible proclaims propositions, the Bible is therefore not scientific.

But even science uses baseline assumptions in order to operate. Whereas science could use the baseline of God's Word to experiment with the world, today's scientific enterprise uses their own assumptions which have no collective justification.

It assumes 'natural laws' such as consistency in natural causes of events in the world. Instead of God ontologically causing everything directly with His power and precisely by His will, science assumes one physical event can cause another, and then it uses the logically fallacious scientific method to confirm its hypothesis in experiments. When it is all boiled down, it is clear there is a blatantly unjustified assumption in the scientific world about causation. We observe events happen everyday, often with reliability and predictability. But correlation in events does not equal causation. One after another does not mean one caused another. One always after another does not mean one caused another. One always after another in your experience does not mean one always after another.

If an explosion occurs when chemical X is mixed with chemical Y, the scientist may conclude the explosion is caused by the mixture of the chemicals. Once repeated across the world by many of the 'world's finest methodical guessers' aka scientists, it becomes considered scientific fact that the mixture of chemical x and chemical y causes explosion. Scripture and rational thought across the world are then judged by this scientific fact. The scientific fact is held as mankind's finest, most trustworthy knowledge. However it is obvious the entire scientific process was repeated use of the logical fallacy "affirming the consequent" - fundamentally invalid reasoning. The world worships mankind's conclusions from absurdity.

In reality, clearly it would be God causing the proposed chemicals X and Y to exist. He may simultaneously cause an explosion to occur when He makes these two chemicals mix. However, He can cause the chemicals to collide without causing an explosion, and He can likewise cause just the explosion itself without the chemicals present. It is the scientist who foolishly assumes because he saw pattern, that he could therefore validly determine the cause of the event, and believes himself to have discovered 'laws' based on these incomplete observations.

God is moving the sun in a specific pattern He designed specifically for it. A scientist observes the sun and determines that because he is seemingly able to predict it's next movement at any given moment, its movement is therefore by some natural law. So the scientist says, "Therefore, natural law." God says He stopped the sun for awhile. The atheistic scientist says, "That would be supernatural, outside of natural law".

""God is moving the sun in a specific pattern He designed specifically for it.""
If the earth is FLAT why does Argentina NOT see the NORTH STAR yet Canada does ?

 

[Chihuahua]

I know that we have some scientists in the room.

Any of you care to take a look at these documents and provide your feedback?

Language alert.

FLAT EARTH Military Documents - Yes, They're Real. Here They Are...

From ballistic missile trajectory calculations to unmanned vehicles, the US Military and NASA have been using FLAT EARTH as their model for over 60 YEARS!

chemtrails.substack.com

None of that is science and it is clearly faked. I liked the bit about chem trails. Might as well through in Elvis, Bigfoot, and aliens.

 

[Chihuahua]

The sad reality of people that claim to believe in the flat Earth is that they are trolling or have some serious issues in believing the world has a massive conspiracy that serves no function. I suppose for some it makes them feel they are 'smarter' than everyone else because they know the 'truth.'

Companies spend massive amounts of money to haul stuff to space. So, nothing is actually getting done and they are just throwing money at something for a conspiracy? There are plenty of rogue governments out there that would love to humiliate governments by demonstrating a vast conspiracy. If you are in the middle of the ocean and use a satellite phone, where is the tower? Under the water? Do they build towers miles high so we can be tricked? When you use a satellite receiver for TV, how does that work? Why must it be pointed just so?

 

[rvmb]

None of that is science and it is clearly faked. I liked the bit about chem trails. Might as well through in Elvis, Bigfoot, and aliens.

A FLAT earth would allow Argentina to see the NORTH star yet for reasons FLATTERS cant answer, Argentina doesn't yet Canada does.

 

[Chihuahua]

A FLAT earth would allow Argentina to see the NORTH star yet for reasons FLATTERS cant answer, Argentina doesn't yet Canada does.

Maybe God is deceiving us to test our faith? :)
But then.... God is working with the worldwide grand conspiracy??

No one is checking the books of all the companies that spend money pointlessly to launch stuff into space? Is that a tax deduction?

 

[Chihuahua]

Why must it be pointed just so?

Why does it go out during heavy clouds... it is like the magic device is getting stuff from beyond the clouds. Maybe the receivers are glued to the ceiling above the clouds?? How do you get that job? I guess you have to be part of the illuminati.