Flat Earth Theory

[David in NJ]

I repeat the question, is ISS real or not ?

God REPEATS His Question to you @ProDeo = Jeremiah 31:35-37

Simple logic question on Jeremiah 31:37
Please answer either Yes or No as commanded by the LORD - Matthew 5:7

A.) “If heaven above can be measured,"
B.) "And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,"

A.) We know that scientists cannot search out the heavens above = Yes or No

B.) Have the foundations of the earth been searched/SEEN by man = Yes or No

 

[David in NJ]

Yes fake. We rely on God's Word, not on humans or worldy knowledge. Especially NASA is of the devil, so I would not take that as a reliable source. Our 100% reliable source is God's Word. And He says clearly that we are not living on a spinning ball in outer space. The devil wants people to neglect God and think all is random and vast. But He sits right above the firmament, thats why the Northern Lights, we see a glimpse of God's throne room and glory. How beautiful. Just look at the stars and we can tell that the North Pole is the center. God bless you

The damning videos exposing NASA have been SCRUBBED from the Internet

Replaced with "experts" denying what was exposed.

 

[ProDeo]

Yes fake. We rely on God's Word, not on humans or worldy knowledge. Especially NASA is of the devil, so I would not take that as a reliable source. Our 100% reliable source is God's Word. And He says clearly that we are not living on a spinning ball in outer space. The devil wants people to neglect God and think all is random and vast. But He sits right above the firmament, thats why the Northern Lights, we see a glimpse of God's throne room and glory. How beautiful. Just look at the stars and we can tell that the North Pole is the center. God bless you

Is the North Pole visible in Australia ?

No, you cannot see the North Pole or its guiding star, Polaris (the North Star), from Australia because Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere, meaning Polaris sits below the horizon, making the Southern Cross and other southern stars visible instead. The North Pole's celestial point is too far north for Australians to observe; they would need to travel to the Northern Hemisphere for that view.

As a scientist you should know better.

God bless you too and your faith found in Christ.

 

[ProDeo]

The damning videos exposing NASA have been SCRUBBED from the Internet

Replaced with "experts" denying what was exposed.

For a conspiracy to work only few know the truth.

When it's about cosmology tens of thousand (if not more) must deliberately lie.

In your theory you must believe that all astronauts who have been in space are liars.

There always be some with a conscience.

Other than that, Russia, China and other anti Western countries have a vested interest to debunk NASA, ESA. Instead they follow suit, China and India do moon exploration, Russia and US are still cooperating on ISS.

You paint a story as if we are living in the movie of the Matrix with the devil as the architect, meaning we live a life that is not real, but fake.

Love.

 

[David in NJ]

For a conspiracy to work only few know the truth.

When it's about cosmology tens of thousand (if not more) must deliberately lie.

In your theory you must believe that all astronauts who have been in space are liars.

There always be some with a conscience.

Other than that, Russia, China and other anti Western countries have a vested interest to debunk NASA, ESA. Instead they follow suit, China and India do moon exploration, Russia and US are still cooperating on ISS.

You paint a story as if we are living in the movie of the Matrix with the devil as the architect, meaning we live a life that is not real, but fake.

Love.

For a conspiracy to work only few know the truth.

Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it - Matt 7:14

When it's about cosmology tens of thousand (if not more) must deliberately lie.

"the whole world is under the control of the evil one" - NKJV

In your theory you must believe that all astronauts who have been in space are liars.

The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and LYING wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them

NASA is owned and run by satan, as are the astro-Nots

You paint a story as if we are living in the movie of the Matrix with the devil as the architect,

They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

Why have you not answered the question that God asked you in Jeremiah 31:35-37 ???

 

[marks]

In your theory you must believe that all astronauts who have been in space are liars.

Not that only, consider the airlines. They'd all have to be in on it, with the pilots, flight attendants, how many people would that be?

And the shipping, they'd all have to be in on it. Obviously it would take much much longer to go from Africa to South America then from Europe to North America, for instance. So all the cruise lines, and tanker ships, and on and on and on.

I think you'd have to have millions of people who all chose to not be the one to become famous by revealing the lie.

Much love!

 

[David in NJ]

Not that only, consider the airlines. They'd all have to be in on it, with the pilots, flight attendants, how many people would that be?

And the shipping, they'd all have to be in on it. Obviously it would take much much longer to go from Africa to South America then from Europe to North America, for instance. So all the cruise lines, and tanker ships, and on and on and on.

I think you'd have to have millions of people who all chose to not be the one to become famous by revealing the lie.

Much love!

Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it - Matt 7:14

Why have you not answered the question that God asked you in Jeremiah 31:35-37

Is it not because of your unbelief and fear of the Truth

 

[David in NJ]

God's Words is TRUTH = every one = Matt 4:4

 

[David in NJ]

Not that only, consider the airlines. They'd all have to be in on it, with the pilots, flight attendants, how many people would that be?

And the shipping, they'd all have to be in on it. Obviously it would take much much longer to go from Africa to South America then from Europe to North America, for instance. So all the cruise lines, and tanker ships, and on and on and on.

I think you'd have to have millions of people who all chose to not be the one to become famous by revealing the lie.

Much love!

Post 809 = Believe God at His word and the Truth will set you FREE

 

[marks]

I repeat the question, is ISS real or not ?

According to the flat earthers, it cannot be. I don't know why they won't answer. Maybe the same reason no one will post a map! If they get too tied down to false statements, it's harder to back pedal?

Much love!

 

[David in NJ]

Not that only, consider the airlines. They'd all have to be in on it, with the pilots, flight attendants, how many people would that be?

And the shipping, they'd all have to be in on it. Obviously it would take much much longer to go from Africa to South America then from Europe to North America, for instance. So all the cruise lines, and tanker ships, and on and on and on.

I think you'd have to have millions of people who all chose to not be the one to become famous by revealing the lie.

Much love!

marks, i am not shocked that you do not know why.

JESUS Says, "they know not what they are doing"

Even the disciples who walked with Christ needed their minds open to the Holy Scriptures

How MUCH MORE are the people of the world - REPEAT - the people of the WORLD completely unaware of the deception they are UNDER

and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

 

[David in NJ]

According to the flat earthers, it cannot be. I don't know why they won't answer. Maybe the same reason no one will post a map! If they get too tied down to false statements, it's harder to back pedal?

Much love!

I don't know why they won't answer.

You, @ProDeo and others who refuse to answer God's Question that HE Himself posed to you - but you will not answer!!!

Pride, fear of man, religion, respect of persons, unbelief and the love of the world are BLINDERS and HARDEN your hearts/minds to the Truth

 

[Archie]

I'm asking for someone to post the true map of the world. You all say the earth is flat, I'm saying, show me what it looks like.

No one wants to. I think I know why.

Much love!

Much love!

Brother Mark,

I'm not exactly sure what is you're asking for. I'm not going to go back and search the entire thread, but I think that originally you asked for maps, which I provided. Then either you or someone else requested a model, which I also provided. Now you say you want us to show you what it looks like.

The best I think I can do at this point would be to ask you to simply set aside the heliocentric framework through which you have viewed the cosmos your entire life, become as a little child like our Lord Jesus told us to do, close your eyes, slowly reopen them again and look around.

The infinite plane upon which we live looks exactly like it always has. The world doesn't change, its fixed, immoveable, set upon a firm foundation, heavens above, earth below, the sun and moon and stars still circle over our heads, the wind still blows, the rain stills falls, birds and bees and butterflies of all colors shapes and sizes still effortlessly fly upon the breezes, unaided and unencumbered by any magical force that should, if real, be pulling them back to the ground.

When someone has their eyes finally opened to the truth of Gods wonderful creation, they still see all the same things they have ever seen, it is only our perspective that has changed. Its very much like the day that someone by Gods infinite grace and mercy, miraculously receives the gift of His Holy Spirit within them. We become a new creation, with a new heart, a new mind, and clear eyes, with which to view the world. Just look around you my brother, trust His Holy Word, and trust your senses, not what most refer to as "common sense", because as you and I both know, common sense is not to common these days.

You live in a liars paradise, which is no Eden, but a den of thieves. Satan has stolen from us the truth of Gods great creation. Trust your Fathers Word, and take it back again.

Here's some video from a high altitude balloon flight. Keep in mind that they used a GoPro camera which has a fish eye lens. Why do they always use fish eye lenses for high altitude photography, I think I know. Many dishonest flat earthers have edited this video to remove the curvature. I'm giving you the original video. When the camera is stable, in the middle field of view, you can see the true shape of the earth, as flat as far as the eye can see.

You said you wanted to know what it looks like, you already do.
Open your eyes my brother.

If that's not sufficient evidence for you, here's an account from our hidden history of which you have likely never heard.

Much love, much peace,

Archie

 

[marks]

but I think that originally you asked for maps, which I provided.

No, I'm not asking for a search result from Google, I'm asking you what map you believe is correct. Not, "here are a bunch", rather, commit yourself to what you think is real. Pick one.

Much love!

 

[David in NJ]

Mark, I'm not exactly sure what is you're asking for. I'm not going to go back and search the entire thread, but I think that originally you asked for maps, which I provided. Then either you or someone else requested a model, which I also provided. Now you say you want us to show you what it looks like.

The best I think I can do at this point would be to ask you to simply set aside the heliocentric framework through which you have viewed the cosmos your entire life, become as a little child like our Lord Jesus told us to do, close your eyes, slowly reopen them again and look around.

The infinite plane upon which we live looks exactly like it always has. The world doesn't change, its fixed, immoveable, set upon a firm foundation, heavens above, earth below, the sun and moon and stars still circle over our heads, the wind still blows, the rain stills falls, birds and bees and butterflies of all colors shapes and sizes still effortlessly fly upon the breezes, unaided and unencumbered by any magical force that should, if real, be pulling them back to the ground.

When someone has their eyes finally opened to the truth of Gods wonderful creation, they still see all the same things they have ever seen, it is only our perspective that has changed. Its very much like the day that someone by Gods infinite grace and mercy, miraculously receives the gift of His Holy Spirit within them. We become a new creation, with a new heart, a new mind, and clear eyes, with which to view the world. Just look around you my brother, trust His Holy Word, and trust your senses, not what most refer to as "common sense", because as you and I both know, common sense is not to common these days.

You live in a liars paradise, which is no Eden, but a den of thieves. Satan has stolen from us the truth of Gods great creation. Trust your Fathers Word, and take it back again.

Here's some video from a high altitude balloon flight. Keep in mind that they used a GoPro camera which has a fish eye lens. Why do the always use fish eye lenses for high altitude photography, I think I know. Many dishonest flat earthers have edited this video to remove the curvature. I'm giving you the original video. When the camera is stable, in the middle field of view, you can see the true shape of the earth, as flat as far as the eye can see.

If that's not sufficient evidence for you, here's an account from our hidden history of which you have likely never heard.

LOL x100 = The GoPro camera even shows a curve earth at GROUND LEVEL = WOW are people stupid

Thanks for the videos

 

[marks]

You live in a liars paradise,

No, you do. There, see how helpful that was? Why do so many people consistently post such vain words?

Much love!

 

[Archie]

One of those videos from ISS.

Fake ?

Yes, fake.

 

[marks]

common sense is not to common these days.

Obviously not!!

 

[Archie]

LOL x100 = The GoPro camera even shows a curve earth at GROUND LEVEL = WOW are people stupid

Thanks for the videos

They aren't stupid bro, they have been lied to from childhood, taught to deny their own senses, Gods Holy Word, and God Himself. They are trapped within a false paradigm, from which most will never escape.

Remember, they think that we are the blind and stupid ones, and the whole world agrees with them.

Love is the answer.

 

[Archie]

Obviously not!!

That would seem to be some sort of backhanded insult. With that I will conclude that you did not watch the videos, or if you did, you were unable to see them. Hence, our dialogue has reached its conclusion.

Please correct me if I am mistaken.