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Ask a FLAT earther a simple question & their head explodes while trying to find an answer that even they can believe.
eg:-
Why does Canada see the North Star yet Australia can't ?
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Ask a FLAT earther a simple question & their head explodes while trying to find an answer that even they can believe.
eg:-
Why does Canada see the North Star yet Australia can't ?
David in NJ
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Gravity cannot be proven, for the simple fact = it does not exist.
God's Evidence is WATER, as is His Word, and it exposes the globalists 'gravity' and the CGI LIE from NASA.
Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.
David in NJ
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Gravity cannot be proven, for the simple fact = it does not exist.
God's Evidence is WATER, as is His Word, and it exposes the globalists 'gravity' and the CGI LIE from NASA.
Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.
Chihuahua
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If you fell off the sphere, in what direction would you fall and what force is acting on you to be pulled? You fell off a sphere, so where are you going? Remember, this sphere is in space. You are not a roach on a disco ball hanging above a floor on the surface of a massive object which attracts your mass by gravity.
If you fall off a ladder, you fall to the ground. That is due to the enormous mass of the Earth which pulls you towards it. What magic is pulling you to the ground of a flat Earth?
Speaking of, how does the Sun work in flat Earth fairytale land? In the real world, the energy emitted is the result of fusion. You know what is so strange, fusion bombs use the same principle, on a much smaller scale. Hydrogen isotopes are fused in to helium.
I know someone will say it so I will save time
LOL!!! Then why doesn't the Sun blow up!!! You're stupid.
The Sun's massive gravity prevents it from esplodin'
Psalm-147:3
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1. Corinthians 3,19: For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
You have very little understanding and to cover that up, you feel the need to call others stupid.
God's Word is pure truth and wisdom. There is no stupidity in God's creation. You are mocking not others here, but in essence God and how He decided to create the earth. An absolutely perfect and enclosed system.
Chihuahua
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The italics and the obvious sarcasm should have been an indicator.
I know someone will say it so I will save time
LOL!!! Then why doesn't the Sun blow up!!! You're stupid.
The Sun's massive gravity prevents it from esplodin'
A fusion thermonuclear device produces massive amounts of heat and energy. It is the fusion of hydrogen isotopes into helium. We can and undeniably have carried this out on a small scale compared to what is going on with the Sun. It is known of what the sun is made using spectroscopy. I was making a sarcastic theoretical response that might come about as: if a fusion bomb explodes, why does not the Sun?
The reason is that the Sun has an unimaginable amount of mass causing it to contain itself, for the most part. Sometimes it will burp, but our magnetic field protects us. It does make for a pretty Aurora around the polar areas, but does make an appearance sometimes futher out.
As the hydrogen burns out, a star, as ours is predicted, gets bigger and bigger like a freshman at college. The star will blow up like a childhood celebrity reaching adulthood getting attention by self destruction for a moment. A remnant is left behind and slowly fades away in time, or it caves in under its own former self into a blackhole in which nothing can escape, consuming anything around it. The same is true for real stars.
If the Earth is perfect, why does it not orbit the Sun perfectly, or the moon orbit the Earth perfectly?
Thanks for a beautiful post Psalm.
I also love nature and see the beauty that God created for us.
I live in a valley with mountains, hills and lakes all around me,
and will never get used to their splendor.
I don't mock...but I do find it pretty incredulous that some, today, could still think this.
I mentioned Magelllan's trip around the world, I think that was in the 1500's, that proved that the earth
is a globe and can be circium-navigated.
I also mentioned that I've heard from some that were able to see the curvature of the earth from the stratosphere.
(I think it's the stratosphere - not going to check).
Truly, I don't think the OT is to be taken literally word for word.
Not every Christian agrees with me and that's OK.
Which I think is what you're doing...and I'm not here to debate that,
or do I ever debate that since we each have a world view that must be reconciled with scripture,
and we use different methods to do that.
Basically, I believe God wants us to know He's present, to know Him and love Him.
The rest doesn't seem so important to me - I might be wrong.
Believing the earth is a globe takes nothing away from His sovereignty or love for His creation.
Chihuahua
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I believe there exists no contradiction between finding God in faith, the beauty of the natural world, in sharing experiences, and making sense of all of it. Faith helped us understand why and that curiosity that is within us, it seeks God and God gives us a chance to participate in understanding and bettering our world.
That curiosity is called the God shaped hole.
What you've stated is what children are taught...
I used to teach children out faith...10 to 13 year olds.
We each have a hole in our soul that needs to be filled and only God can fill it.
""You have very little understanding and to cover that up, you feel the need to call others stupid.""
Since you are NOT stupid and have MUCH understanding
explain why Canada sees the North Star and Australia does not :)
Praise the Lord for His wonderful light, it is a delight to look into these things, if I may try to share what the Lord has been showing me in his word. I think we need to remember that God did not write a science textbook, He wrote a book of spiritual truths and spiritual lessons. I don’t want to argue and divide with my brothers and sisters in Christ about scientific, geological or historical things (nor political things either) because those are earthly things that will all pass away. And as the Lord “speaks to us in parables” - similitudes/allegories - I do not believe the “pillars” the earth is founded on are literal geological/physical pillars. The earth is founded upon Wisdom ...it was created and is sustained by God’s wisdom….His spiritual laws and utterly genius “natural” laws.
Psa 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
Psa 104:24
O LORD, how manifold are thy works! IN WISDOM hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.
Pro 3:19
The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
Pro 8:22-32 (speaking of Wisdom)
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
How God has “builded” the earth is the same way He built His house/temple and the same way He built us, as we are His temple….founded on the pillars of His wisdom - which is Christ the foundation stone, who is the Wisdom that was with God in the beginning. “Earth and heavens” in scripture is sometimes an allegory for His old covenant temple or for us as His individual temple. Earth is our body, heavens represent our soul or spirit…and they represent things to do with the old covenant temple as well…eg, firmament between the cherubim are “heavens”.
Pro 9:1
Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars
(represented by the seven candlesticks of the menorah....seven spirits of God….all together representing Christ who is our wisdom (1 Cor 1:30)
See here for example how the writer of the Psalm is likening the earth and heavens to himself, to his aging body:
Psa 102:23
He weakened my strength in the way; he shortened my days.
I said, O my God, take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations.
Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:
But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.
Like as this earth in its present form has an end, and the old covenant and temple had an end, and our physical lives will have an end…….but all renewed as it were to a new glorified form. The new earth…..the new covenant….and our bodies will be renewed to become immortal/spiritual bodies.
Another example:
1Sa 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
Is the Lord talking about literal pillars made of rock and dirt here? No, He is talking about pillars of Wisdom. See how He is likening the poor being lifted up, to the “earth”….His temple, His footstool, His resting place when He comes to dwell in a saved soul.
God didn’t write these things at all for the purpose of teaching us what shape the earth is in, or about geology and science, so we don't need to argue and accuse each other over this topic. I hope this might be helpful to others as it is helpful to me.
Psa 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
Psa 104:24
O LORD, how manifold are thy works! IN WISDOM hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.
Pro 3:19
The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
Pro 8:22-32 (speaking of Wisdom)
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
How God has “builded” the earth is the same way He built His house/temple and the same way He built us, as we are His temple….founded on the pillars of His wisdom - which is Christ the foundation stone, who is the Wisdom that was with God in the beginning. “Earth and heavens” in scripture is sometimes an allegory for His old covenant temple or for us as His individual temple. Earth is our body, heavens represent our soul or spirit…and they represent things to do with the old covenant temple as well…eg, firmament between the cherubim are “heavens”.
Pro 9:1
Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars
(represented by the seven candlesticks of the menorah....seven spirits of God….all together representing Christ who is our wisdom (1 Cor 1:30)
See here for example how the writer of the Psalm is likening the earth and heavens to himself, to his aging body:
Psa 102:23
He weakened my strength in the way; he shortened my days.
I said, O my God, take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations.
Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:
But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.
Like as this earth in its present form has an end, and the old covenant and temple had an end, and our physical lives will have an end…….but all renewed as it were to a new glorified form. The new earth…..the new covenant….and our bodies will be renewed to become immortal/spiritual bodies.
Another example:
1Sa 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
Is the Lord talking about literal pillars made of rock and dirt here? No, He is talking about pillars of Wisdom. See how He is likening the poor being lifted up, to the “earth”….His temple, His footstool, His resting place when He comes to dwell in a saved soul.
God didn’t write these things at all for the purpose of teaching us what shape the earth is in, or about geology and science, so we don't need to argue and accuse each other over this topic. I hope this might be helpful to others as it is helpful to me.
ScottA
Well-Known Member
Yes, that has been the lesson and discovery of history.
The flat earther's claim however is that a circle can be flat. BUT--they have not rightly considered all of scripture. As a recent psyop none of what is in the bible really matters to the authors, they (the deep state) just want us distracted. But here we are playing into their hands and making it a translation issue.
We deserve what we get.
Biblically, scripturally, the flat earthers are focused on the earth, which is typical thinking for men of the world. If they were not so self centered they would consider the Sun rather than the earth, as it is a sign and a manifestation of the Son (of God) at the center of our existence--emanating Light in every direction three dimensionally--not just a spot or floodlight in a dome sky firmament. Which is wrong too, because the firmament is scripturally defined as flat. Which if they did consider it is just another rabbit hole, because the firmament, though made manifest as physically imagined, is not physical at all, but spiritual--that divide between heaven and earth guarded with a flaming sword, wherein flat has a different meaning.
So much for rabbit holes.
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ScottA
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ScottA
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Another fail.
Oh, but a hamster wheel can be proven. Spin it fast enough and even water stays in a bucket.
David in NJ
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Dear Lizbeth
In FACT God did establish science in Genesis
He did so for us, full well KNOWING of Satan's Power over mankind.
God's Science for us is very simple, so simple HE limited it to simple words from His Mouth.
The MOST PURE Science FACT that completely destroys the LIE of the satanists CGI globe earth is WATER
Notice how Genesis opens UP with WATER
Love you my Sister in CHRIST
David in NJ
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Good Morning ScottA
only 2hrs sleep last night and i have to step out for a little = be back later
thank you for the invite
SHALOM
ScottA
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Ronald David Bruno
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Silly. One can look at the horizon and see the curvature. And especially when you look out at the ocean.
And yet Paul wrote that the first man Adam was a figure (allegory) for He who was to come....? The Genesis account is rich in allegory. ( But I agree that it also teaches THAT God created the world and gives a rough outline of the process.) We find the natural things of creation speak to spiritual things.....like where it is written in Rom 1 that man is without excuse because the invisible things that may be known of God are clearly seen (allegorically) in what He created.
My point is mainly that the natural things are NOT the point, so we don't have to get too bothered about that, and actually it can be distracting and unnecessarily divisive. I honestly dont' think God was concerned with informing us whether the earth is a triangle or a sphere or a flat disc. Many things in the bible actually happened but were written down as ensamples and spiritual teachings for us. Part of "rightly dividing" the scriptures involves seeing/dividing where ,the Lord is speaking literally or allegorically or both at the same time.
The earth has no "orbit." It is fixed in place just like the scriptures state. The sun and moon have circuits inside the enclosed system.
