Flat Earth Theory

[ScottA]

Thank you and Good Afternoon from NJ

Please elaborate on your position with "it is written"

Isaiah 42:9​

Behold, the former things have come to pass, And new things I declare; Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”​

Psalm 97:6​

The heavens declare His righteousness, And all the peoples see His glory.​

Isaiah 55:9​

“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.​

But between this earth and these celestial heavens, and the Heavens of God, there is a divide which show a clear distinction between heaven and earth:

Genesis 3:24​

So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.​

Matthew 19:26​

But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”​

If I can explain how any of those passages relate (and I am sure there are many more passages), I am happy to do so. But briefly, God has made manifest a worldly example to reveal what would seem impossible [here], but is nonetheless revealed and possible with God...and the heavens declare it.

 

[David in NJ]

Isaiah 42:9​

Behold, the former things have come to pass, And new things I declare; Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”​

Psalm 97:6​

The heavens declare His righteousness, And all the peoples see His glory.​

Isaiah 55:9​

“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.​

But between this earth and these celestial heavens, and the Heavens of God, there is a divide which show a clear distinction between heaven and earth:

Genesis 3:24​

So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.​

Matthew 19:26​

But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”​

If I can explain how any of those passages relate (and I am sure there are many more passages), I am happy to do so. But briefly, God has made manifest a worldly example to reveal what would seem impossible [here], but is nonetheless revealed and possible with God...and the heavens declare it.

KEY = "heavens" = as in plural

 

[ScottA]

Never forget Genesis = Our GOD created a Firmament that separates the WATERS from Above us!!!

Thirdly, never place your trust in globalists/satanists/scientists who are controlled by the "god of this world"

Those two sentences contradict each other.

The first is a worldly interpretation based on worldly terms and the elements of this world and universe. The second is then blaming those same terms as being satanic.

 

[ScottA]

KEY = "heavens" = as in plural

So, what are you saying?

 

[ScottA]

@David in NJ

Here are a couple more passages that show the different between worldly terms and the elements of this universe vs. heavenly:

1 Corinthians 2:12​

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.​

1 Corinthians 15:48​

As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly.​

 

[David in NJ]

So, what are you saying?

Let us ask: What is GOD Saying in the Holy Scriptures on this topic of "heavens"

 

[ScottA]

Let us ask: What is GOD Saying in the Holy Scriptures on this topic of "heavens"

We know that God has made man of the same elements as this universe and its heavens, but that we, this universe and it's elements are lower and set apart, even by guarded separation from His higher existence and the Kingdom of Heaven. We also know that what is above and also below, each has its own expanses which He has referred to as spheres, bodies, courts, quarters, and corners, some with walls roundabout. And we know that such things as they are written, often come by metaphor or parable, needing to be rightly divided or handled. Indeed, the Word of God is a mix of both, and therefore must be understood as such, lest we fall into confusion, wrongly confusing a word about the One as being a word about the other, and vice versa.

But what is it that God has determined to reveal, to leave no stone upon another, to make manifest--every hidden thing--that the man of sin is revealed?

I tell you, it is every hidden thing within every man and women of sin, every belief contrary to what is true, even everything imagined. Which is to say, that not unlike life and death, blessing and cursing--everything great and horrible is to be made manifest, some past, some present in our time and continuing unto the end. What then remains of everything that anyone ever believed? What should we expect? We should expect things to be like the days of Noah--not just many eating and drinking and giving in marriage--but things only imagined not unlike dinosaurs, giants, and beasts never before known...and cosmic things, and the imaginations by the measure of increased knowledge. Everything.

 

[Biblica]

Three points arise for me from your post. First, if it were possible to see 500 miles away on the earth's surface with specialised equipment, why can't I see France from my living-room window, which looks out over the English Channel on the south coast of England? France is just over a hundred miles away from me, and plenty large enough to be visible at that distance. Second, where does God's word say that the earth is a flat disc? Third, NASA was only set up in the 1950s. Astronomers taught that the earth is a globe hundreds of years before that.

You would be able to see it with specialized equipment. God's word says the earth is a circle, but the Hebrew word used is not the word that is used to describe a ball.

 

[PeterAndroz]

How far you can see, apart from depending on the weather conditions, depends on how high you are above sea level. For example, here in the UK, from the top of the white cliffs of Dover, one can easily see France if the weather provides good visibility. From the beach at Dover. one is unlikely to see France at all, or at best, only the tops of high buildings on the French coast.

Yes, simple easily testable logic, the higher you are the further you can see.
eg Lay at water level, can you see a boat that is 10 km away ? No
Stand at 10m above water level, can you see the boat then ? Yes
As you watch that boat sail away does it slowly disappear from the bottom first ? Yes
Can FLATTIES explain why ?