Luke 21: 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. A snare, IMHO, is a trap which catches it's victim totally unaware that it is in the trap in the first place. That said, I believe that the Tribulation period will come upon us very subtly. I have doubt that it will begin with a bang and that the main characters will be overly obvious. It probably won’t be front page news and the Anti-Christ probably won’t be the president of the United States.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
For As A Snare Shall It Come
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QUOTE (guysmith @ Apr 11 2009, 07:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72348
Luke 21: 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. A snare, IMHO, is a trap which catches it's victim totally unaware that it is in the trap in the first place. That said, I believe that the Tribulation period will come upon us very subtly. I have doubt that it will begin with a bang and that the main characters will be overly obvious. It probably won’t be front page news and the Anti-Christ probably won’t be the president of the United States.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
You are correct it will be and is subtle, we are in it now.The bang will come when satan does,when he heals the wound of the beast(one world government)Good post Guy,but I do have a question,are you aware of who the anti-christ is?
Luke 21: 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. A snare, IMHO, is a trap which catches it's victim totally unaware that it is in the trap in the first place. That said, I believe that the Tribulation period will come upon us very subtly. I have doubt that it will begin with a bang and that the main characters will be overly obvious. It probably won’t be front page news and the Anti-Christ probably won’t be the president of the United States.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
You are correct it will be and is subtle, we are in it now.The bang will come when satan does,when he heals the wound of the beast(one world government)Good post Guy,but I do have a question,are you aware of who the anti-christ is?
Hello n2thelight,I do not think the AC has been reveailed yet, however, I am willing to listen to your thouhts.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
QUOTE (guysmith @ Apr 11 2009, 06:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72348
Luke 21: 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. A snare, IMHO, is a trap which catches it's victim totally unaware that it is in the trap in the first place. That said, I believe that the Tribulation period will come upon us very subtly. I have doubt that it will begin with a bang and that the main characters will be overly obvious. It probably won’t be front page news and the Anti-Christ probably won’t be the president of the United States.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
We do have to wait for the revealing, as 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us. If he has to be revealed then we all have to understand none of us know who he is. We all just love to speculate like we're throwing dice with others, laughing as we go. The seriousness of it when it happens is going to bring many tears. IMHO. Isaiah 25:8 For God will wipe away our tears when the veil is removed and the tribulation is over. Vickie
Luke 21: 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. A snare, IMHO, is a trap which catches it's victim totally unaware that it is in the trap in the first place. That said, I believe that the Tribulation period will come upon us very subtly. I have doubt that it will begin with a bang and that the main characters will be overly obvious. It probably won’t be front page news and the Anti-Christ probably won’t be the president of the United States.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
We do have to wait for the revealing, as 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us. If he has to be revealed then we all have to understand none of us know who he is. We all just love to speculate like we're throwing dice with others, laughing as we go. The seriousness of it when it happens is going to bring many tears. IMHO. Isaiah 25:8 For God will wipe away our tears when the veil is removed and the tribulation is over. Vickie
QUOTE (Vickie @ Apr 11 2009, 12:21 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72364
QUOTE (guysmith @ Apr 11 2009, 06:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72348
Luke 21: 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. A snare, IMHO, is a trap which catches it's victim totally unaware that it is in the trap in the first place. That said, I believe that the Tribulation period will come upon us very subtly. I have doubt that it will begin with a bang and that the main characters will be overly obvious. It probably won’t be front page news and the Anti-Christ probably won’t be the president of the United States.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
We do have to wait for the revealing, as 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us. If he has to be revealed then we all have to understand none of us know who he is. We all just love to speculate like we're throwing dice with others, laughing as we go. The seriousness of it when it happens is going to bring many tears. IMHO. Isaiah 25:8 For God will wipe away our tears when the veil is removed and the tribulation is over. VickieSister Vickie, I don't know if you know this or not, but The Old Testament is New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is Old Testament revealed. So since II Thessalonians 2:3-4 is New Testament scriptures, not only we have to search for the rest of the New Testament scriptures, also the Old Testament.Mark 13:23 - But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.As this verse indicated. Christ told us who the Anti-Christ, the son of perdition. As God told us everything, we are to search for the answers, because this is "no more" revealing... Even though there is still unfulfilled prophecies to come... God has already reveal what's going to happen in the future. We just have to search for the answers, because Christ Himself knows who THAT man of sin is.
QUOTE (guysmith @ Apr 11 2009, 06:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72348
Luke 21: 34And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. A snare, IMHO, is a trap which catches it's victim totally unaware that it is in the trap in the first place. That said, I believe that the Tribulation period will come upon us very subtly. I have doubt that it will begin with a bang and that the main characters will be overly obvious. It probably won’t be front page news and the Anti-Christ probably won’t be the president of the United States.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
We do have to wait for the revealing, as 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us. If he has to be revealed then we all have to understand none of us know who he is. We all just love to speculate like we're throwing dice with others, laughing as we go. The seriousness of it when it happens is going to bring many tears. IMHO. Isaiah 25:8 For God will wipe away our tears when the veil is removed and the tribulation is over. VickieSister Vickie, I don't know if you know this or not, but The Old Testament is New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is Old Testament revealed. So since II Thessalonians 2:3-4 is New Testament scriptures, not only we have to search for the rest of the New Testament scriptures, also the Old Testament.Mark 13:23 - But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.As this verse indicated. Christ told us who the Anti-Christ, the son of perdition. As God told us everything, we are to search for the answers, because this is "no more" revealing... Even though there is still unfulfilled prophecies to come... God has already reveal what's going to happen in the future. We just have to search for the answers, because Christ Himself knows who THAT man of sin is.
QUOTE (Jordan @ Apr 11 2009, 01:49 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72365
We do have to wait for the revealing, as 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us. If he has to be revealed then we all have to understand none of us know who he is. We all just love to speculate like we're throwing dice with others, laughing as we go. The seriousness of it when it happens is going to bring many tears. IMHO. Isaiah 25:8 For God will wipe away our tears when the veil is removed and the tribulation is over. VickieSister Vickie, I don't know if you know this or not, but The Old Testament is New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is Old Testament revealed. So since II Thessalonians 2:3-4 is New Testament scriptures, not only we have to search for the rest of the New Testament scriptures, also the Old Testament.Mark 13:23 - But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.As this verse indicated. Christ told us who the Anti-Christ, the son of perdition. As God told us everything, we are to search for the answers, because this is "no more" revealing... Even though there is still unfulfilled prophecies to come... God has already reveal what's going to happen in the future. We just have to search for the answers, because Christ Himself knows who THAT man of sin is.
1) Hi Jordon , I have never heard it put that way , That the Old Testament is New Testament concealed , and you probably know where that verse if Found ?2) Clarifiy so I can understand how that can be ?3) The Old Testament rules have to Do with Israel and it's 613 rules that governed them , and Heb 8: 7 , says that will be relaced .4) Replaced with the New Covenant that converts Israel to Christ , Heb 8:7b and will bring the 2 sticks of Israel and Judah into one Nation , Heb 8:8b .5) That was to be New Covenant is found also in Ezek 36:26 and Isreal did not seem to know this .
We do have to wait for the revealing, as 2 Thess 2:3-4 tells us. If he has to be revealed then we all have to understand none of us know who he is. We all just love to speculate like we're throwing dice with others, laughing as we go. The seriousness of it when it happens is going to bring many tears. IMHO. Isaiah 25:8 For God will wipe away our tears when the veil is removed and the tribulation is over. VickieSister Vickie, I don't know if you know this or not, but The Old Testament is New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is Old Testament revealed. So since II Thessalonians 2:3-4 is New Testament scriptures, not only we have to search for the rest of the New Testament scriptures, also the Old Testament.Mark 13:23 - But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.As this verse indicated. Christ told us who the Anti-Christ, the son of perdition. As God told us everything, we are to search for the answers, because this is "no more" revealing... Even though there is still unfulfilled prophecies to come... God has already reveal what's going to happen in the future. We just have to search for the answers, because Christ Himself knows who THAT man of sin is.
1) Hi Jordon , I have never heard it put that way , That the Old Testament is New Testament concealed , and you probably know where that verse if Found ?2) Clarifiy so I can understand how that can be ?3) The Old Testament rules have to Do with Israel and it's 613 rules that governed them , and Heb 8: 7 , says that will be relaced .4) Replaced with the New Covenant that converts Israel to Christ , Heb 8:7b and will bring the 2 sticks of Israel and Judah into one Nation , Heb 8:8b .5) That was to be New Covenant is found also in Ezek 36:26 and Isreal did not seem to know this .
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QUOTE (guysmith @ Apr 11 2009, 06:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72348
Luke 21: 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. ...
Very few will have any idea what is happening. If you read Rev 2-3, you will see that only two "assemblies" out of the seven are pleasing to God, and only one of them has an "open door."
Luke 21: 35For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. ...
Very few will have any idea what is happening. If you read Rev 2-3, you will see that only two "assemblies" out of the seven are pleasing to God, and only one of them has an "open door."
QUOTE (dan p @ Apr 11 2009, 07:59 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72384
1) Hi Jordon , I have never heard it put that way , That the Old Testament is New Testament concealed , and you probably know where that verse if Found ?2) Clarifiy so I can understand how that can be ?3) The Old Testament rules have to Do with Israel and it's 613 rules that governed them , and Heb 8: 7 , says that will be relaced .4) Replaced with the New Covenant that converts Israel to Christ , Heb 8:7b and will bring the 2 sticks of Israel and Judah into one Nation , Heb 8:8b .5) That was to be New Covenant is found also in Ezek 36:26 and Isreal did not seem to know this .
6) Pauls letters are not the New Testament , and can you show a verse where it is shown ?
1) Hi Jordon , I have never heard it put that way , That the Old Testament is New Testament concealed , and you probably know where that verse if Found ?2) Clarifiy so I can understand how that can be ?3) The Old Testament rules have to Do with Israel and it's 613 rules that governed them , and Heb 8: 7 , says that will be relaced .4) Replaced with the New Covenant that converts Israel to Christ , Heb 8:7b and will bring the 2 sticks of Israel and Judah into one Nation , Heb 8:8b .5) That was to be New Covenant is found also in Ezek 36:26 and Isreal did not seem to know this .
6) Pauls letters are not the New Testament , and can you show a verse where it is shown ?
QUOTE (dan p @ Apr 11 2009, 07:07 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=72386
6) Pauls letters are not the New Testament , and can you show a verse where it is shown ?
I Cor 1:12-13 Paul is using an analogy of himself....which follows the apostle speaking of himself as an apostle in verse 1.
6) Pauls letters are not the New Testament , and can you show a verse where it is shown ?
I Cor 1:12-13 Paul is using an analogy of himself....which follows the apostle speaking of himself as an apostle in verse 1.
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