Thank you for your clarity.No, Jesus wasn’t and isn’t God.
If he is indeed, Then would this mean he was speaking to himself in the Scripture You quoted?
He was speaking to His Father.
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Thank you for your clarity.No, Jesus wasn’t and isn’t God.
If he is indeed, Then would this mean he was speaking to himself in the Scripture You quoted?
John 17:6-9 KJV
[6] I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. [7] Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. [8] For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. [9] I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Who’s Jesus talking about here?
Did that cover it?Now if you’ll kindly answer my question too you?
John 17:5-6,9 KJVThank you for your clarity.
He was speaking to His Father.
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Interesting! Is it not actual glory? Not actually before the world was? What are we talking about here??Yes he did, though I don’t believe it’s what you think, and to answer your question.
Because He was praying for His disciples, and those who would believe on Him.John 17:5-6,9 KJV
[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. [6] I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. [9] I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Ok, so why would Jesus not pray for the world, when he is on the cusp of giving his life for it?
His glory is the gifting of the Holy Spirit.Interesting! Is it not actual glory? Not actually before the world was? What are we talking about here??
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Because Jesus didn't pray for the entire world, how does this mean to you that Jesus wasn't in glory with the Father before the world was?John 17:5-6,9 KJV
[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. [6] I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. [9] I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Ok, so why would Jesus not pray for the world, when he is on the cusp of giving his life for it?
I don't understand what you mean.His glory is the gifting of the Holy Spirit.
The word world isn’t in reference to the cosmos. It’s in reference to non believing Jews of a previous era. The new age we a in at the present would be in reference hereInteresting! Is it not actual glory? Not actually before the world was? What are we talking about here??
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The father for the first time in human history imparted Himself too another. It all began with Jesus in the first century. The beginning of a new world, age. We are now part of this world.Because Jesus didn't pray for the entire world, how does this mean to you that Jesus wasn't in glory with the Father before the world was?
Or actually you said He was, but not in the way I think. What way do you think it was? Like, really, true? Or some flowery speech for something else, but not a "real" sharing glory?
Like, I shared a pot of coffee with my wife . . . except she didn't have any because she wasn't there?
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Yes, the Greek kosmos is not about the stars in particular. At the basic level, its an "orderly arrangement". Various uses include jewelry and hair styles, and the establishment of humanity upon the earth.The word world isn’t in reference to the cosmos.
Egad!That's why you need the morphology of the Koine Greek and familiarize yourself with the Syntax, the arrangement of words in sentences, clauses, and phrases, and the study of the formation of sentences and the relationship of their component parts, armed with a good dictionary...
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No, Jesus was not the "spiritual seed" of Abraham, but physical.Of course, the spiritual seed that is one of the promises given to Abraham, the gateway seed to salvation in faith to immortality.
Gal 3:16, 26, 28-29. We are spiritually clothed in Christ's spirit given from his Father, today.
You picked "God was manifest INTO flesh?"The Word became flesh.
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