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Jesus is in the number 2 position in heaven, subject only to Jehovah Himself. 1 Cor 11:3
Wow, the most revealing, on point teaching about the Deity of Christ. I have heard many facets of this "Doctoral Dissertation" or better yet, the plain TRUTH given by the Holy Spirit, but not as thoroughly persuasive and complete as his. I am wondering why I never heard of this guy? Praise God.
He is called Immanuel - God with us.I am not going to compromise on the Scriptures brother, Jesus is/haya God and in no way inferior to God..God WITH God..
J.
Wow, the most revealing, on point teaching about the Deity of Christ. I have heard many facets of this "Doctoral Disertation" or better yet, the plain TRUTH given by the Holy Spirit, but not as thoroughly persuasive and complete as his. I am wondering why I never heard of this guy? Praise God.
The last 2 could actually be applied Joe.
Christ is part of God as the son of God. He is not God himself, that role went to the Father until the son was born and perfected in sacrifice. He has always been the word of God though. Existing from the beginning.
Hey Johann:
You choices of sources are rubbish,
He is not God
What you're saying is incorrect and you missing the point I made. "Jesus is not God" rather he is a God. If he were God then we would have no need of the Father and the Holy Ghost. More accurately: "The Father the Son and The Holy Ghost are God". Without the son we would all die in our sins and be sent to hell. Without the Father it is the same fate. Without the Holy Ghost it is also the same fate...Oh yes, Christ Jesus is God, if He's not you don't have a Savior brother.
I might be wrong on some Points, but not on this.
J.
A loving spirit also is direct and to the point when it comes to matters of the truth. It cannot be sugar-coated Johann, for this subject at least. I hope my reply here then was more to your likely and more loving.Hey Johann:
Your choices are not necessarily the best for your question. By saying a 'mere' man is this meant to connote a normal human being without the influence of his Father, his God? Well if so then that one cannot be right, as he was not just a mere man pulled out from the crown so to speak. He was definitively a human being carrying his Father's spirit. Even Christians, true believers in Christ are not considered 'mere' carnal human beings anymore. They are special, having the spirit of truth within them. Now Yahshua was the/a 'son of man' which was a common expression for any human man, even for you or I. People make a real big deal as if it is means something special.
You choices of sources are rubbish, sourced for the same teachings and mentality of main stream trinitarians - biased against the scripture if it conflicts with their man-made doctrine. How possibly can you get any real truth from it?!
When a source starts out with 'loud' seemingly indisputable blanket statements of this is the truth about something then you can suspect that they are hiding something. Used car sales people act this way.
What if the Father called the Son "God" (Theos)? Would you believe Him?He is not God himself, that role went to the Father until the son was born and perfected in sacrifice.
I am not going to compromise on the Scriptures brother, Jesus is/haya God and in no way inferior to Go
I know Jesus is a God. The point I was making is that he is not God. He is one of three Gods in the trinity. The Father the Son and the Holy Ghost. I made that distinction because I have seen people post on this forum that they think there is one God and that God they believe to be Jesus, which is incorrect.What if the Father called the Son "God" (Theos)? Would you believe Him?
All of this establishes hierarchy, meaning Jesus is inferior to God in every way.
I know Jesus is a God